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RE: Job, jobs, jobs - 9/6/2011 10:29:31 PM

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MHM... Im sure there is alot of thought placed into your posts. But the blue and black tend to bleed together when I read it. Seperating them would be helpful, at least for me.

Not insisting, just suggesting. Up to you.

I'm liking the debate though. There's some good stuff in there.

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RE: Job, jobs, jobs - 9/7/2011 6:53:05 AM

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Financial markets do not share your skepticism about US debt. If our debt were so dreadful, then there should be a premium to buy it. However, everybody still thinks that US treasuries are a good value...Everythings relative. Its a good value because the EU is in even deeper shit than us, with the bad economies threatening the not so bad ones.

Hitler called for and built the autobahn system which was the best in Europe. - simply wrong. The first portion of the autobahn was built before Hitler, the planning for the autobahn was done before Hitler, and only 1/4 of the autobahn was built during the Third Reich. America's higher education system pre-60s was a balance between vocational training and college. The idea that everyone should go to college is part of the decline in our education system. Too many resources are misdirected.

I will agree with education thing. Somehow you are "less bright" if you don't go to college now. Not sure when that happened but it takes a lot of people out of doing other creatives things in society and puts them running after jobs that don't really exist anymore. Companies should partner with technical and vocational schools to turn out the skilled workers they need rather than relying on serendipity to provide those workers.

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RE: Job, jobs, jobs - 9/7/2011 7:10:29 AM

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I will agree with education thing. Somehow you are "less bright" if you don't go to college now. Not sure when that happened but it takes a lot of people out of doing other creatives things in society and puts them running after jobs that don't really exist anymore. Companies should partner with technical and vocational schools to turn out the skilled workers they need rather than relying on serendipity to provide those workers.

That is what our band/clan/tribal government is doing now, polling and working with "green" and technologically sophisticated businesses and seeing what they think they need in the way of workers and their educations and working with the technical schools and colleges to get our members the right skills. (we have our own scholarship system, too.)

Not sexy but it has been working for us. And there is a bunch opening up, from wind and solar power, to aquatic farming and sustainable agriculture.

It started out as a shoestring effort a decade ago, but now has reached the point where we have 4 people dedicated to just this.

I think it is as you noted, kind of like the military is always fighting the last war. But if you have even a relatively small group working proactively to get the young women and men trained in needed future skills, it works.

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RE: Job, jobs, jobs - 9/7/2011 7:43:46 AM

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Agreed

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RE: Job, jobs, jobs - 9/9/2011 7:30:12 AM

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If anyone wants an interesting take on the solar industry- here ya go..http://www.electroiq.com/articles/pvw/2011/09/solar-and-the-law-of-unintended-consequences.html?cmpid=EnlEIQDailySeptember92011

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RE: Job, jobs, jobs - 9/14/2011 9:11:38 AM

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And another one: Check out this article in solar buzz: http://solarbuzz.com/facts-and-figures/market-facts/global-pv-market

One of the interesting points, is that China has a 15% discount for PV cells/modules sold in Japan/West. Isn't this the definition of dumping?

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