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DomYngBlk -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 5:29:10 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ClassIsInSession The problem with unions is they extort part of your paycheck to "represent" you, and in most cases I've worked around union workers, they are like government employees, lazy, sluggish and always whining. Then real workers come in and work circles around them despite the insults, the threats and sometimes the attempts at causing harm. Bottom line is, if people wouldn't accept the current wages for work, the wages would have to increase, but as long as someone is willing to work for less, the wages will stagnate or worse deflate, as they are currently in many positions where there are 1000 applicants for the same job. The bigger problem is that we can't compete with workers from other countries who can buy more with less or are generally willing to live with much less. The problem that creates this dilemna is subsidized globalization. The problem is that you've bought into the bullshit that you've been fed. Namely other workers work cheaper and produce the same as American workers. Its a crock of shit served up by Big Business to give a reason why all manufacturing went off shore. It went offshore for one thing only. Profits. The goods being made overseas are inferior to what was produced here. The goods are made with products that are regulated out of use here in the US. The goods are made in countries that subsidize that production at every turn. This generation is being poisoned by the same companies that poisoned previous generations. The problem is that we are so stupid as a people we allow it. We allow them to take production offshore and then send the products back to us to use. Does that make any kind of sense? But, I am sure you will run along to Walmart and be thankful that the fucking yellow smiley face is there to tell you everything is just fine.

rulemylife -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 5:52:42 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse The Teamsters have been stealing millions from their members since that union was started. Just another thug worried about his own huge salary. I tell you what servant, return all the money from the benefits that your union negotiated for you and then I'll take you seriously.

rulemylife -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 6:01:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse I don't like unions that steal from their members as the Teamsters have a history of doing. And just how do they do that? Back it up or quit spitting out nonsense.

Sanity -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 6:03:40 AM)
FR - Most open administration ever refuses to comment http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/white-house-declines-to-comment-on-union-leaders-anti-tea-party-rhetoric-at-labor-day-rally-2/ Incompetent head of the DNC cant do her job, is incapable of directly addressing questions when confronted by Hoffas hate speech http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/06/showdown_on_fox__friends_wasserman_schultz_avoids_hoffa_question.html

rulemylife -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 6:08:00 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse 'Taking someone out' should have a special meaning for Jimmy Hoffa Jr. since the mob took out his father after he was released from prison in 1975. Servant, you are just a fountain of information. Somehow you know that "the mob" was responsible when no one else knows anything about his disappearance.

rulemylife -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 6:17:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity FR - Most open administration ever refuses to comment http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2011/09/white-house-declines-to-comment-on-union-leaders-anti-tea-party-rhetoric-at-labor-day-rally-2/ Incompetent head of the DNC cant do her job, is incapable of directly addressing questions when confronted by Hoffas hate speech http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2011/09/06/showdown_on_fox__friends_wasserman_schultz_avoids_hoffa_question.html First of all, he wasn't up there threatening anyone. That would have been pretty stupid and illegal. He may have used a poor choice of words but he was obviously referring to taking them out of office.

Sanity -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 6:37:37 AM)
In light of the leftist caterwauling and spin following the Gabby Giffords shooting, its amazing that leftists now believe they can try to spin the following away, and claim its not "threatening" quote: Despite President Obama’s repeated claims to change the tone in Washington, the White House had no comment this afternoon after Teamsters Union leader James Hoffa, speaking at an event before President Obama, said of Tea Party activists that, come November, Democrats should “take these sons of bitches out.” Warming up the crowd before President Obama’s Labor Day speech in Detroit this afternoon, Hoffa warned the largely union crowd that the Tea Party was waging a “war on workers.” “We got to keep an eye on the battle that we face: The war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They’ve got a war, they got a war with us and there’s only going to be one winner. It’s going to be the workers of Michigan, and America. We’re going to win that war,” Hoffa told thousands of workers gathered for the annual event organized by the Detroit Labor Council. “President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march…Everybody here’s got a vote…Let’s take these sons of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong,” he concluded. Actually, I take that back. Its not at all amazing, its very typical of the left, and very old hat by now.

Lucylastic -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 6:41:08 AM)
all this political poison again, the only congressperson to get shot in the last threee years was a dem,[image]http://www.lucylasticslair.com/sarcasm.gif[/image] (but she was shot by one of her own) [image]http://www.lucylasticslair.com/sarcasm.gif[/image]. Relock and reload meant nothing and the targets were JUST targetting just the voting districts, but on labour day at a labour rally hoffas son is calling for mass destruction of the american republicans only in sanities world, well popeyes and servents too colour me shocked at the downright hypocrisy and laughter element

rulemylife -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 6:48:24 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity In light of the leftist caterwauling and spin following the Gabby Giffords shooting, its amazing that leftists now believe they can try to spin the following away, and claim its not "threatening" quote: Despite President Obama’s repeated claims to change the tone in Washington, the White House had no comment this afternoon after Teamsters Union leader James Hoffa, speaking at an event before President Obama, said of Tea Party activists that, come November, Democrats should “take these sons of bitches out.” Warming up the crowd before President Obama’s Labor Day speech in Detroit this afternoon, Hoffa warned the largely union crowd that the Tea Party was waging a “war on workers.” “We got to keep an eye on the battle that we face: The war on workers. And you see it everywhere, it is the Tea Party. And you know, there is only one way to beat and win that war. The one thing about working people is we like a good fight. And you know what? They’ve got a war, they got a war with us and there’s only going to be one winner. It’s going to be the workers of Michigan, and America. We’re going to win that war,” Hoffa told thousands of workers gathered for the annual event organized by the Detroit Labor Council. “President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march…Everybody here’s got a vote…Let’s take these sons of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong,” he concluded. Actually, I take that back. Its not at all amazing, its very typical of the left, and very old hat by now. Sanity, you used to make some sense, but lately you seem to be losing any sense of reason. You do understand that public threats can land a person in jail? He's not in jail, so the only ones interpreting what he said as being a threat are the ultra-conservatives. This is from your own link, take note of the fact he is speaking about voting: “President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march…Everybody here’s got a vote…Let’s take these sons of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong,” he concluded.

Lucylastic -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 6:53:43 AM)
What exactly has the president got to be sorry for?? why should he apologise or even comment?

Sanity -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 6:54:49 AM)
I would like a yes or no answer lucy (or rml) I know I will never get it because all either of you are capable of is this mindless incoherent spin, but - are phrases such as, "this is war" and "take that son of a bitch out" really acceptable political speech now? Yes or no. quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic all this political poison again, the only congressperson to get shot in the last threee years was a dem,[image]http://www.lucylasticslair.com/sarcasm.gif[/image] (but she was shot by one of her own) [image]http://www.lucylasticslair.com/sarcasm.gif[/image]. Relock and reload meant nothing and the targets were JUST targetting just the voting districts, but on labour day at a labour rally hoffas son is calling for mass destruction of the american republicans only in sanities world, well popeyes and servents too colour me shocked at the downright hypocrisy and laughter element

domiguy -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 6:59:34 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: popeye1250 One of my brothers is a Teamster. And THEY DON"T FUCKIN" STEAL, GOT IT ASSHOLE? Wait a second here....(just one small second....really)....."Teamsters don't steal". The suggestion is that (because your brother is an honorable man...and I presume....a member), by default....the Teamsters are pure as silk, white as a bleached set of bedsheets.....ready to take on the world in all it's glory.....like a Summer day....a virgin. I'm sorry....I'll be unavailable for a while while the Medics carry me out from laughing so fucking hard that (I'm sure) I lost a lung, cracked a fucking rib and had to be ripped open from the sternum up. (GAWD....this is better than DVD's of the "Best of" Carson). Oh HELL no! The last time I saw him he had 16 T.V.s and a bunch of other stuff in his garage that,....".fell off the back of a truck!" "You want a t.v.? Get it the hell out of here!" "STEAL?" The Teamsters? Never! All the guys in Local 25 in Boston, Mass are Boy Scouts. ; ) I think you are lying about your brother. I doubt you even had one, but if you do I am sure you are accurate in that he doesn't want to see you very often.

Lucylastic -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 7:03:35 AM)
If I use your definition of what Giffords/ the targets and dont retreat/reload meant? no in the real world no.. shotting gabrielle giffords was more than speech, it was an act please use reality under close supervision at least be truthfull with the actual words spoken President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march…Everybody here’s got a vote…Let’s take these sons of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong,” he concluded.

domiguy -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 7:08:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle "President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let's take these son of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong," Hoffa added. EXCEPT That's not what Hoffa said. "HOFFA: Everybody here's got to vote. If we go back and keep the eye on the prize, let's take these son of a bitches out and give America back to America where we belong! Thank you very much!" And of course, the context, intuitively obvious to the most casual observer is mobilizing the vote. And we all know why Republicans Hate Voters, right? I wonder exactly WHY you're not providing the RAW FOOTAGE to back up your claim. If you're not lying, let's see the raw footage. But of course, You, and everyone else knows you're not going to be sharing any raw footage with us. Sanity, if you read what was posted here it (which is accurate) it casts a different light entirey on what was said. Of course you are incapable of finding the truth. you are an idiot and every post confirms it. He is clearly talking about voting as the way to "take them out." So much for hate speech, puppet.

domiguy -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 7:10:45 AM)
http://visiontoamerica.org/3858/fox-news-deceptively-doctors-jimmy-hoffa-violent-speech-video/ This is how the Hoffa’s remarks are currently being reported by most Conservative news organizations (Section in bold is my doing and is the most pertinent piece. It sounds like violent rhetoric): “President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. Let’s take these son of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong,” Hoffa added. Now, let’s revisit the bolded section when it is left unedited: President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march. And President Obama, we want one thing: jobs, jobs, jobs… That’s what we’re going to tell him. He’s gonna be … and when he sees what we’re doing here, he will be inspired. But he needs help. And you know what? Everybody here’s got to vote. If we go back, and we keep the eye on the prize, let’s take these son of a bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong.

domiguy -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 7:11:49 AM)
Sanity is a pathetic and stupid little man.

MrRodgers -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 7:12:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: servantforuse The Teamsters have been stealing millions from their members since that union was started. Just another thug worried about his own huge salary. ...and here we know the repubs don't steal it from employees, they steal it from the treasury. Just a whole bunch of greedy thugs acting as always...very greedy and corrupt to satisfy their greed. So how easy it is ?

Sanity -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 7:17:26 AM)
I wrote "now" Lucy As in, is it acceptable political speech now Obamas' "If they bring a knife, we bring a gun" and "get in their faces" quotes, as well as the "retreat/reload" quotes you mention were before that leftist shot Giffords Then came Obamas teary-eyed "new tone" rhetoric So is this the new tone Obama promised, or are his speeches all just empty hollow meaningless bullshit quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic If I use your definition of what Giffords/ the targets and dont retreat/reload meant? no in the real world no.. shotting gabrielle giffords was more than speech, it was an act please use reality under close supervision at least be truthfull with the actual words spoken President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march…Everybody here’s got a vote…Let’s take these sons of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong,” he concluded.

MrRodgers -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 7:18:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LookieNoNookie quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle Look at the poor, poor victims in the GOP.... Poor them.. Call the fucking waaaaaaaambulance. Ya know...that's weak journalism. The GOP is a bunch of fucktards. The Democrats....are a bunch of fucktards. The Tea Baggers are a bunch of fuctards. I've been a Republican since I was old enough to think for myself...doesn't mean I agree with those (fucktards). Strangely, as a business owner, I earn waaaaaaay the fuck more money when the Democrats are in office, and anyone who thinks Democrats spend more....just ain't fucking paying attention. Republicans spend more than anyone....look it up (no, I won't provide you with links or "sources"...you're an adult...you can find this shit on your own). I stopped voting when Gore "lost" (remember, I'm a Republican). When he won more votes, but lost the election...I said..."I'm done". I've always been a fan of the process...until the process failed me. I didn't want Gore as my President...but I agreed to the process....and he won. He won. He should have been our President...and had he been, come Hell or high water....he'd have dealt with the issues as he best felt. They're all a bunch of fucktards. It's a rigged game. Anyone that thinks otherwise...ain't focusing on the facts. ALL presidents are puppets and their first priority is...to stay alive. The congress can always be marginalized if you have a solid minority in the senate that you are willing bury in 'free-$peech.' [sic]

domiguy -> RE: Hoffa Threatens GOP At Obama Event (9/6/2011 7:21:38 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity I wrote "now" Lucy As in, is it acceptable political speech now Obamas' "If they bring a knife, we bring a gun" and "get in their faces" quotes, as well as the "retreat/reload" quotes you mention were before that leftist shot Giffords Then came Obamas teary-eyed "new tone" rhetoric So is this the new tone Obama promised, or are his speeches all just empty hollow meaningless bullshit quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic If I use your definition of what Giffords/ the targets and dont retreat/reload meant? no in the real world no.. shotting gabrielle giffords was more than speech, it was an act please use reality under close supervision at least be truthfull with the actual words spoken President Obama, this is your army. We are ready to march…Everybody here’s got a vote…Let’s take these sons of bitches out and give America back to an America where we belong,” he concluded. so hateful to take someone out by voting for their opponent. Get a life.

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