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DomYngBlk -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 1:05:29 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tolovetolaugh

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk

Because you are the majority. With the system built for you to win at every turn. The current system is your White Scholarship program....


Well hot damn, can we call it that than?
No.
Why not?
Because the system affects and advances all colors despite your victimized spin.

http://www.scholarships.com/financial-aid/college-scholarships/scholarships-by-type/minority-scholarships/african-american-scholarships/
See how long it takes you to scroll down the page of scholarships that are not given based on merit, but purely based on race.
Really being brought down there huh.

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If true? lol wow

Truly bipartisan anything is rare these days. Opinions color everything, leaving way for articles to be misrepresented and facts to be placed out of context or not revealed to get the authors point across.

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Sure it was the point of the post and yours as well. you some  how feel picked on and think that things are going well for you. You need someone to blame so instead of looking at yourself you need to find someone of color to put the blame on for your own problems. Been done ever since this country was started. you are just prepetuating a grand tradition.



There is a HELL of a lot more in me and to me then just white, I would appreciate it if you would not try and point me out as the white devil, which I can just see coming up in other words.
The main difference here is that I do not see myself as a victim.
I WILL point out hypocrisy when I see it. See the words in bold.

I myself have no race related problems. I have friends all over almost every spectrum, with my only criteria being that they don't bore me. None of them however try to get their way on things because they are "black" or "gay" or "crippled" or "female".
Pulling any such card, race or not strikes me as incredibly whiny.



Not to point out the obvious but the link is for African American scholarships.......were you thinking they were going to give them out based on the size of their noses?

No, you feel picked on and just wish we'd just stop complaining. Hey, we've got a black President....thats what you wanted right? Stop complaining now. Shit , just look at all those scholarships....Don't worry that we won't spend a dime on you to educate you when you are young......just look at all those scholarships!

Do you have any idea of the size of the monetary endowments of Yale, Harvard, Brown, Boston University, Princeton,...etc etc are? Do you know how many african americans get scholarships from there? It is set up for YOU....so that YOU can go to school there and become our next "leaders". Its all put together down to the SAT's themselves that are made to favor the majority. You want to call them white scholarships go ahead. I call them all that anyway.

But all that is far afield from pa crying around about "white" being in some fucking headline




tazzygirl -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 1:49:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tolovetolaugh

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

it really is a relic of the past...  being the leader of the free world is-  who he is. 


Yes, this does prove racism is not dead.

For Linn
I never said it was, merely that harsh measures were needed to stop the overt violence of the past- while there is still violence, do you really feel it is anywhere what it used to be race wise?
Harsh times call for harsh measures... when the harsh times start winding down, so too shouldn't the harsher methods?

For Pa
Do you realize how much credibility you remove from my arguments by saying things like this and making it like it is in agreement with me?




Did anyone happen to notice where this took place?

(August 18, 2011)--The FBI is investigating the death of a black man whom Mississippi authorities a white teenager in a pickup truck intentionally ran down.

FBI spokeswoman Deborah Madden said Wednesday that the bureau is investigating the June 26 death of James Anderson.


Madden said the FBI wants to "determine whether federal civil rights crimes occurred."

Anderson's death flamed anger across the country when a surveillance video was made public of him being run over in Jackson.

Mississippi was the scene of some of the most shocking violence of the civil rights era.

Deryl Dedmom, who authorities say was driving the truck, is charged with murder.

John Aaron Rice is charged with simple assault for allegedly assaulting Anderson before he was killed.


Yes, harsh methods may have helped reduce the number of incidences. Shall we lighten up on those methods and risk the increase of the "harsh times"?

Im sorry, thats almost laughable if it wasnt so damn scary. Racism isnt dead, it isnt even dying... its alive and well and thriving in the hate filled hearts of many. Dont look in the big cities for it... dont look to the news... but rather in the small communities, thats where racism flourishes. You can find it anywhere.... you wont find it suppressed in small towns all across america.




Termyn8or -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 2:43:08 PM)

"Do you have any idea of the size of the monetary endowments of Yale, Harvard, Brown, Boston University, Princeton,...etc etc are? Do you know how many african americans get scholarships from there?"

And it was going so well........

Looking at the politicians in this country it's obvious that there are no intellectual or moral standards. So exactly what are the standards ?

I am a racist but not the way you think. Merit is not based on race and neither should opportunity. However looking at the status quo, perhaps there should be an aggressive affirmative action put in place for politicians. Whites had a sort of automatic affirmative action for a long time. And now the tables are turning, if slowly.

But the fact is the old boy's club is more exclusive than it's ever been. I'm White, do you think my chances of getting into Harvard are better because of that ? That may amount to the improved odds when you buy two megamillions tickets rather than one. That is pretty much the difference between a snowball's chance in hell versus a snowball's chance in hell.

That fact is that Blacks have lost less. That's because they started with less. That near extinct middle class, guess who was in it. In fact when a couple of hundred years ago it was illegal to teach Blacks how to read, don't you think it says something ? Getting fucked over less is not quite acceptable but it is a step in the right direction.

If true inferiority ever existed, Whites are going to experience it because in the last 4,000 years all we seem to have learned is how to wreck the place. By greed, avarice and irresponsibility White Men have wrecked society here, and they're working of Europe and a bunch of other places. We used to be the innovators, scientists, builders. Now everything is imported, you can't trust what they call science anymore and the place is literally falling apart. The former innovators are gone, and we have a bunch suits who have a new class, the investment class. The epitome of society, making money for nothing. Unions born to fight worker exploitation have become safe havens for incompetents and slackers, rank, file and administration all.

In the meantime the racial discrepancy in test scores etc. slips away. Whites are devolving and don't even know it. Well some do. Obama is not perfect by any means, no President is and I don't think it is any more racist to criticize him than any other. However consider this, he was not elected on the votes of Blacks alone. Think about that. Just how bigoted are Whites who vote for a Black President ?

Now let me put forth this : we know the media is fucked up. We know that people are always biased and it is the hardest thing sometimes to keep our own bias out of our writings. There may have been a time when we could hold journalists to a higher standard, but if so those days are over. So if we know it, how is it we get so inflamed over such a lame issue as the words black or white, or Black or White, used in a headline ? It seems more important than the fact that a bunch of MFs killed someone for no reason.

I thought we were grownups.

Now of course some of the arguments here are different story, but it all started with one word. Wait until something REALLY happens. Because let me tell you something, Whites are much more violent than Blacks, or anyone else for that matter. We just hide it better. Once we have a percieved reason we have no problem with genocide. Look at who started almost every major war in this world, some even in the name of religion. And what people don't realize, other than the stupid religious wars, most of them were started over natural resources, that we may take from others even if that means killing them. Not always because of need either, many times because of greed. To enrichen the leaders. No other race even comes close.

T^T




LinnaeaBorealis -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 3:33:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

to love,   thank you for posts with substance.    It is refreshing to see that. :-)


Don't you mean posts that appear to agree with you???

No, I don't believe that lessening the penalties for hate crimes is a good idea at all. There are actually people who have decided it wasn't worth the harsher penalties to assault or kill someone because of their race or sexual orientation. That's why the overt racism/hate crimes may be decreasing, not because people are less bigoted. So if we do away with harsher penalties, it would probably encourage people to go back to hate crime behavior.

No, we're not having an epidemic of lynchings "just because", like happened 100 years ago, but that's really because people started getting punished for doing that shit, not because they suddenly saw the light. And a hate crime is a hate crime, whether it's black on white or white on hispanic or whatever & it needs to be treated as such. What these white teens did to this apparently harmless black man was most definitely a hate crime & I for one am fine with that being in the headlines. It should be in the headlines. It needs to have a spotlight on it. And they need to be punished more harshly for it.




rulemylife -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 3:58:32 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


As I wrote previously, I dont tolerate stupid people well, which the way I treat you may be why you have the erroneous impression that I dont tolerate many things...

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife
Yeah Sanity, you are so well known for your tolerance. [sm=rofl.gif][sm=juggle.gif]




You know Sanity, I never agreed much with you but I used to have respect for your opinions.

I'm not sure what happened but you fell off the deep end and became completely belligerent and started becoming exactly what your tag line says.




rulemylife -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 4:16:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: LinnaeaBorealis

I for one detest the term "Caucasian" to describe my race. I am among the whitest people on the planet. I am so white, I'm nearly translucent. WTF does the Caucusus region of Russia have to do with anything? We apparently all originated on the continent of Africa.


Then I guess we can all call ourselves African Americans.




rulemylife -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 4:29:12 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tolovetolaugh

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk


I stand corrected. You showed me one. And your point is that racism is over? Then how do you explain this

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-penalty-black-and-white-who-lives-who-dies-who-decides#Executive%20Summary


If true, that is sad and very wrong.
My point was not that racism is gone. It exists. On all sides of a huge ethnicity fence.
Your link there, is it an attempt to reason that hate crime laws are necessary so that more whites who murdered blacks die since they are not sentenced to death otherwise?

I was going to argue that maybe it was because black jurors skipped out, but proved myself wrong when I looked into it.
They do need to fix that a bit.

That was not the point of my post, nor that of the OPs. There are places where racism needs to be looked into. But there are also places where people need to get the chips off their shoulders and consider they are not the only victims out there.
Maybe if the Jesse Jackson party would take some responsibility on their shoulders and speak out against all violence that is racially motivated, instead of picking and choosing like the news stations in politics, it would be taken more seriously by all sides, and resolution could be had.


Since we are bringing up racial points not completely with the post, please explain to me why when you type in "black scholarship" there are over 15 million results, yet if you type in white instead you only get results about the fighting over 1 group offering 4 measly 500.00 scholarships.



Please explain to me why you are defending a group of white teenagers who went out to beat a black man for no other reason than he was black, and then murdered him by running him over with a truck?

I mean really, is there any reason for this ridiculous thread or the racial arguments.

They did it because of race, and they never denied that.

So please stop with all the irrelevant bullshit.






tolovetolaugh -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 4:37:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife


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ORIGINAL: tolovetolaugh

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ORIGINAL: DomYngBlk


I stand corrected. You showed me one. And your point is that racism is over? Then how do you explain this

http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/death-penalty-black-and-white-who-lives-who-dies-who-decides#Executive%20Summary


If true, that is sad and very wrong.
My point was not that racism is gone. It exists. On all sides of a huge ethnicity fence.
Your link there, is it an attempt to reason that hate crime laws are necessary so that more whites who murdered blacks die since they are not sentenced to death otherwise?

I was going to argue that maybe it was because black jurors skipped out, but proved myself wrong when I looked into it.
They do need to fix that a bit.

That was not the point of my post, nor that of the OPs. There are places where racism needs to be looked into. But there are also places where people need to get the chips off their shoulders and consider they are not the only victims out there.
Maybe if the Jesse Jackson party would take some responsibility on their shoulders and speak out against all violence that is racially motivated, instead of picking and choosing like the news stations in politics, it would be taken more seriously by all sides, and resolution could be had.


Since we are bringing up racial points not completely with the post, please explain to me why when you type in "black scholarship" there are over 15 million results, yet if you type in white instead you only get results about the fighting over 1 group offering 4 measly 500.00 scholarships.



Please explain to me why you are defending a group of white teenagers who went out to beat a black man for no other reason than he was black, and then murdered him by running him over with a truck?

I mean really, is there any reason for this ridiculous thread or the racial arguments.

They did it because of race, and they never denied that.

So please stop with all the irrelevant bullshit.






Yeah, they deserve whatever they get, I actually have no defense of them.
I don't believe the thread was ever about defending the racist thugs. The thread to me was about the double standards of racism.
I was having fun arguing over everything else. Racial arguments are so much fun because people feel so strongly about them. You often can't have a rational discussion about them with anyone who disagrees with your point of view. I was getting rational if a bit heated arguments and enjoying it.
I do apologize if I offended anyone by going off the thread, but others had started the process and no one seemed to mind except when they could find nothing else to say.

And YES, there is a reason for this thread and the arguments. This is a discussion forum. We discuss, or whats the point?




TransformaDomme -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 4:44:58 PM)

Uhm . it does say "black voices" and, if the teens were, in fact, Caucasian, and, they have no issue with calling Negroid persons black, there is no overt racism going on. Because, the only thing racist I saw there was use of "black" and "white" to denote ethnicity, and the fact that the whole publication is geared toward blacks.

Well racism and sexism of that nature happens.There is Woman's Day and Woman's World and Maxim, a magazine for men and Heavy Metal, Adult comics. Shite happens. Sometimes magazines and other publications are geared toward one specific ethnic, gender or age group.

If you don't like it, if you feel insulted, don't read it. If you do read it, and there is an article called "My 15 favorite ways to kill Whitey!" and it's not about fishing for halibut or hunting for deer, then complain!





TransformaDomme -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 4:49:06 PM)

Oh my .. you know what .. I just read more of that article and you are very, very sick and wrong to CLAIM racism, for them mentioning that the boys were white CONSIDERING that they were yelling WHITE POWER and had gone out of their way to find someone who was black to do that to.
It's not RACIST to mention other people of a certain skin tone being prejudiced against your own!

SICK BASTARD!

Oh, and I notice you don't have your profile showing! That makes you a chickenshite, too! I wish you'd show it. Or, how else can I block you and make sure your sick, twisted little ass stays out of my life in all ways possible!

Mississippi is, and, has been at least ever since slavery was abolished, the worst State in regards to the oppression of blacks and anyone who would even consider being nice to them, just in a general way. And, you cry racism over an article bringing some of that ugliness to light? You are so scummy, all the way through to the core. I'd hope you'd rot in hell for your ways, but, your soul is already rotten now. You'd better fix that shite!




ummmmNo -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 5:06:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/09/06/family-of-black-man-kille_n_950674.html


Why are teens  "white"?!!!     This is not how the WI fair flash mobs beatings were reported.,  they did not say "white teens"  over that incident- nor the Philly incident.  

RACISTS!



Since it was a racially motivated crime, the race of the perpetrators and the victim is relevant to the story.

Idiot.

(Source: I am getting a graduate degree in reporting.)




lovmuffin -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 5:22:45 PM)

FR

This hate crime BS I believe is unconstitutional.  It's like charging some one or adding to the punishment for what they were thinking. Why should I give a fuck what the *white teens* motive was other than going toward proving guilt ?  If guilty he should get a needle in his arm like any one else. Well....sort of.....I'm more in favor of something less humane such as hanging of electrocution.

  If some black guy murders my sister I won't give a rats ass if he did it because he hates white people or he wanted to steal her money.  I want his balls tied to a string and have him dropped from a distance of no less than 10 feet. The same thing goes for a white guy, whatever the motive.




tolovetolaugh -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 5:24:49 PM)

I believe southpark described it spot on, been trying to find a clip of just the explanation but no luck.




Politesub53 -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 5:27:04 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Why would I want to check out a lying racist far left rag



As a counterbalance to the crap you usually read.




Sanity -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 5:43:16 PM)


Youre delusional

Its bizarre how you have convinced yourself that you know what I read... [:D]


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Why would I want to check out a lying racist far left rag



As a counterbalance to the crap you usually read.





Lucylastic -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 6:05:00 PM)



If, as you believe, that your tagline is fine..... and that you have put those words into singular sense, the meaning turns towards BO.... I have to ask if you are seriously advocating taking out the pres? because thats how it reads from here. seriously and Im not looking for a reason to needle you, but you changed the context, and made it more than a little personal... not funny, not a good idea .. seriously
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Sanity -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 6:10:20 PM)


Youre taking it out of context dear

You are ignorong that I clearly wrote, "Everybody here has got a vote...' before the take the son of a bitch out part. Its amazing to me that anyone would perceive that as some kind of a threat...

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic



If, as you believe, that your tagline is fine..... and that you have put those words into singular sense, the meaning turns towards BO.... I have to ask if you are seriously advocating taking out the pres? because thats how it reads from here. seriously and Im not looking for a reason to needle you, but you changed the context, and made it more than a little personal... not funny, not a good idea .. seriously
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tazzygirl -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 6:12:30 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tolovetolaugh

I believe southpark described it spot on, been trying to find a clip of just the explanation but no luck.


How cute.. a southpark reference.




Lucylastic -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 6:15:32 PM)

If I am then so will many people, seriously




Sanity -> RE: fucken Huff post is racist! (9/7/2011 6:17:21 PM)


Was that supposed to be in response to me or the taz

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

If I am then so will many people, seriously




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