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isoLadyOwner -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/12/2011 11:42:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: I do not support the USA aggressively imposing Democracy on any society through unprovoked war. If one has a political idiology imposed upon them how is that democracy? When you have your cronies vote your gang into power under force of ams that is called a puppet state Iraq and Afghanistan are run by puppet governments and Libya is slated for the same. The alternative to puppet governments in the Middle East or Libya is an islamist theocracy, hostile to the West, or a strongman Dictator. Obviously Iraq and Afghanistan are currently touted as Democracies by the USA. quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle quote: Someone mentioned that they hoped the SAMs would be launched into Israel from Gaza for example. Inaccurate missiles are unlikely to protect the residents of Gaza since they are basically inaccurate and apt to slam into an Israeli school or civilian homes which would lead to heavy handed and likely disproportionately aggressive IDF reprisals against the Palestinians. I've seen footage of Israeli soldiers shooting at Palestinian schoolgirls, it was very sad. Those SAMs, if used in Gaza, would lead to more Palestinian schoolgirls being gunned down by the IDF, more homes razed, more senseless destruction. Whether SAMs are particularly accurate or not, a Surface to Air Missile that misses its target might eventually land on civilians. You may well have a point about the accuracy of SAMs. I really haven't the foggiest idea about military technology. The civilian casualty figures are enough to convince me how evil it all is. I didn't express a hope that " the SAMs would be launched into Israel from Gaza". I did suggest the missiles would be far more likely to end up in Gaza than Afghanistan. And I wondered if they would help correct the imbalance between IDF military might and the people of Gaza. Something needs to be done to protect those poor people from the murderous onslaughts of the IDF I automatically assume inaccurate SAMs will wreak havoc on civilians at some point but reread your post and realize you weren't hoping for collateral damage on Israeli civilians. I'm sorry for mischaracterizing your words.

tweakabelle -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/12/2011 11:49:23 PM)
Thank you for that clarification and apology isoLadyOwner. Not many people here admit it when they've over-reacted. It takes a special person to do so. I hope others follow the example you've set

isoLadyOwner -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/12/2011 11:54:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tweakabelle Thank you for that clarification and apology isoLadyOwner. Not many people here admit it when they've over-reacted. It takes a special person to do so. I hope others follow the example you've set People's words seem to be twisted here intentionally so often. It happens to me as well and sometimes its just too time consuming to clarify everything. Thank you as well!

Sanity -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 3:55:18 AM)
Still no word from moon on this one yet? [:D] quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Sadly, there's plenty of posters on here who think that way. What do you think all of this "(The President of te United States) iz a Marksist!" bollocks is about? Just out of curiousity then, Moon, how would you characterize my President's little teaching homily about how ATMs destroy jobs?

Sanity -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 4:02:51 AM)
Project much? [:D] You and tweaker belle should get a roach-infested motel room together... you would probably be really happy, right up until you killed one another over the last hit quote: ORIGINAL: SternSkipper They gotta start piss testing you guys... you sure none of your nearby neighbors aren't cooking meth?

TheHeretic -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 6:39:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity Still no word from moon on this one yet? [:D] quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Sadly, there's plenty of posters on here who think that way. What do you think all of this "(The President of te United States) iz a Marksist!" bollocks is about? Just out of curiousity then, Moon, how would you characterize my President's little teaching homily about how ATMs destroy jobs? Time differences, Sanity. Patience. I'm sure he'll come through...

Owner59 -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 6:47:47 AM)
Maybe he wants to stick to the OP and not whine and cry over non-existent things?

TheHeretic -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 6:52:05 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Maybe he wants to stick to the OP and not whine and cry over non-existent things? Maybe he's studying how not to take diametrically opposed positions on the same thread? http://www.collarchat.com/m_3787728/mpage_3/tm.htm

thompsonx -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 6:56:21 AM)
quote: Iraq and Afghanistan are run by puppet governments and Libya is slated for the same. The alternative to puppet governments in the Middle East or Libya is an islamist theocracy, hostile to the West, or a strongman Dictator. Obviously Iraq and Afghanistan are currently touted as Democracies by the USA. Are you saying that you believe that the u.s. has the right to overthrow any country who does not agree with us? Even if that government was democratically elected?

mnottertail -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 6:59:19 AM)
Lets take a moment Huntie, we; the United States of America installed those puppet governments, so why would we overthrow them? I think the person you quoted (and I agree with your observation) is far abaft the beam in the first place.

Owner59 -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 6:59:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 Maybe he wants to stick to the OP and not whine and cry over non-existent things? Maybe he's studying how not to take diametrically opposed positions on the same thread? http://www.collarchat.com/m_3787728/mpage_3/tm.htm You do that all the time you phony baloney debate chump.

TheHeretic -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 7:06:01 AM)
Do you even know what the words I used mean, Homophobe59?

Sanity -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 7:15:58 AM)
I think that what ISO is trying to say is that ISO is a true antiwar liberal. You know, one of those groups of people who Obama and the leftists who surround him threw under the bus... quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: Iraq and Afghanistan are run by puppet governments and Libya is slated for the same. The alternative to puppet governments in the Middle East or Libya is an islamist theocracy, hostile to the West, or a strongman Dictator. Obviously Iraq and Afghanistan are currently touted as Democracies by the USA. Are you saying that you believe that the u.s. has the right to overthrow any country who does not agree with us? Even if that government was democratically elected?

Owner59 -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 7:22:49 AM)
Hurling insults like a six year old,ahh how cute......is that supposed to bother me? lol, on my. Is that what you learned at debate summer camp? Someone who proposed that we should try to convert Muslims, doesn`t have much credibility to criticize other people`s arguments/posts. That was you who said that,wasn`t it? Fuck`n rediculous.

Moonhead -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 7:27:23 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Sadly, there's plenty of posters on here who think that way. What do you think all of this "(The President of te United States) iz a Marksist!" bollocks is about? Just out of curiousity then, Moon, how would you characterize my President's little teaching homily about how ATMs destroy jobs? Protectionist rather than Marxist.

mnottertail -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 7:29:44 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Sadly, there's plenty of posters on here who think that way. What do you think all of this "(The President of te United States) iz a Marksist!" bollocks is about? Just out of curiousity then, Moon, how would you characterize my President's little teaching homily about how ATMs destroy jobs? Protectionist rather than Marxist. Which would land him squarely in the traditional Whiggish-Republicanish camp here in the US. (And UK, nyet?)

Owner59 -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 7:34:50 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity I think that what ISO is trying to say is that ISO is a true antiwar liberal. You know, one of those groups of people who Obama and the leftists who surround him threw under the bus... quote: ORIGINAL: thompsonx quote: Iraq and Afghanistan are run by puppet governments and Libya is slated for the same. The alternative to puppet governments in the Middle East or Libya is an islamist theocracy, hostile to the West, or a strongman Dictator. Obviously Iraq and Afghanistan are currently touted as Democracies by the USA. Are you saying that you believe that the u.s. has the right to overthrow any country who does not agree with us? Even if that government was democratically elected? Folks on the far right like you and rich aren`t able to comprehend Americans who are liberal and not "anti-war". So you whine and wet your dipes.Your perception is to narrow. It`s obvious that it`s you and the debate chump, who are inconsistant about the use of our military. Your support for America`s actions are conditional on who the president is. It`s certainly not on what`s happening on the ground or in reality or what`s right.

MrRodgers -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 9:12:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Sanity You think theres a connection to Obama somehow? No! Say it aint so... [sm=doh.gif] Say... I have an idea! We can just PRETEND that Obama has no involvement in this. Kind of like the way so many leftists like to pretend that Social Security is solvent! [sm=lalala.gif] quote: ORIGINAL: Lucylastic What has this got to do with politics? Is Obama going to lob them at republicans from the whitehouse gardens? it is all his fault right? What so many leftists or rightists fail to mention and usually for just this kind of ridiculous partisan jibe...is that SS would be very solvent if not for our 'esteemed' yet very corrupt whores in congress...squandering it. I can understand how that partisanship so clouds the mind to where the math is just too much to figure out that in fact using net payroll receipts, SS is mathematically solvent until 2037 but that's a'kin to algebra, I guess. For the great uninformed here, payroll taxes alone, cash money every single paycheck...receipts for a year...$800 billion. Do I have to tell you kinkroids that soc. sec. budgeted for 2012 to be $761 billion ? My calculator has fresh batteries and that leaves a plus or + $39 billion. ...oh, of course this has nothing whatever to do with Obama. Where would we be without this cheap partisan ignorance ? Now if he'd just put a stop to all of these socialist, leftist fucking hurricanes...we'd be able to expand Exxon's & GE's vital tax credits.

MrRodgers -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 9:26:04 AM)
quote: isoLadyowner Iraq and Afghanistan are run by puppet governments and Libya is slated for the same. The alternative to puppet governments in the Middle East or Libya is an islamist theocracy, hostile to the West, or a strongman Dictator. Obviously Iraq and Afghanistan are currently touted as Democracies by the USA. Are you aware that the US/CIA overthrew both an Iraqi and Iranian duly elected democratic govts. in the 50's ? (Saddam Hussein and his brother was a CIA proteges hired kill the Iraqi pres.) Neither of those govts were going to install an Islamic theocracy. (both were going to nationalize their oil) Can't have that. As for puppet govts., the Afghan govt. is run by a man we installed so he is...our puppet. We even allowed a blatantly corrupt election, return him to power and caused the dismissal of our UN rep there because he exposed it.

SternSkipper -> RE: As Many As 20,000 SAMS In Libya Unacounted For (9/13/2011 11:16:42 AM)
quote: Do you even know what the words I used mean, Homophobe59? Kinda weird how you dime out to the moderators representing stuff as personal attacks and use offensive terms like homophobe to characterize others so freely.

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