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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/18/2011 9:25:39 PM   
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"The way to a man's heart? Pan gravy. No, really, it is."

Not me. And I can't stand grits or cornbread either.

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/18/2011 9:37:38 PM   
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"The way to a man's heart? Pan gravy. No, really, it is."

Not me. And I can't stand grits or cornbread either.

T^T


You lead a truly pathetic gastronomic life. Somehow I think its reflective of your entire life.

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/18/2011 9:42:49 PM   
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"Bacon grease contains saturated fats. It may not be hydrogenated in the chemical sense, but that doesn't make it healthy."

Sorry if your body can't handle them. But there is a whole bunch of shit I wouldn't touch with a ten foot pole that others eat. Thus the contention that gets me hated by the politically correct crowd, that we have different body chemistries and require different diets. You see that steps on the notion that we are all the same under the skin and therefore incurs wrath from the sheeple.

I heard stories about Florida where when they put people in jail from certain islands they have to give them a special diet. I'm told it is totally gross, some sort of mush and smells and tastes terrible. But they eat it up, and if they try to eat for example a hamburger, they will throw up.

It doesn't really matter when it comes to GMOs anyway. Even if they are totally safe they still have one thing negative. Anything that increases yield per acre or gallon or whatever is not putting more nutrients in the food. You get the same amount of nutrients but more pounds of food. They get paid more for the same or less.

But what the end result is, is that in each head of brocolli, in each ear of corn, in eaach potato, in each grain of wheat, there are less of the nutrients we need to live. Faster growth exaserbates the situation even further. What happens to an organism that gets the required calories, or stuffing or whatever, but does not get the essential nutrients therefrom ?

Well you can expect poor health, skyrocketing medical costs and........ oh wait, that's already happening.

And I also assert that a healthy body is one that can fight off infections and diseases, as well as a little bit of poison now and then, even saturated fats.

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Nobody's body can "handle" it, unless you consume so little that it's negligible. What I meant by "chemically" is that hydrogenated fats are chemically altered to attach hydrogen and are man-made.

http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/002468.htm

If you believe that you're somehow immune to the effects of saturated fats, then you're in for a surprise.


The rest of your post....uhmm...no.

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/18/2011 9:44:18 PM   
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quote:

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"The way to a man's heart? Pan gravy. No, really, it is."

Not me. And I can't stand grits or cornbread either.

T^T


You lead a truly pathetic gastronomic life. Somehow I think its reflective of your entire life.


Yup. He's missing out.

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/18/2011 9:53:43 PM   
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Fuck you. Cubaneros stuffed with HOT Italian sausage smothered in HOT salsa. Pepperoncinis on the side. Really takes the taste of pablum outta the mouth. I can't stand oatmeal, I haven't eaten cereal in years, decades in fact.

I like all this spice shit of course, but when it comes to good meat, like a filet or Tbone or something, the only thing I want touching it is salt and fire. Two of the "elements". Spaghetti, I find the spiciest, hottest sausage I can find and even then my meatballs are spicier. And for cheese, parmesian is dogshit to me, I take romano. Parmesian and aciago are for kids.

There are but a few things which have a "delicate" flavor that I like. Very few, so few in fact I can't think of any right now. But this is a good thing.

My research (a database from our own USDA) indicates that spices are very high in minerals. White and bland veggies have the least. Colorful and flavorful ones have more. Nuts have even more, and I men a cup vs a pound. Certain spices though have as much mineral content in a tablespoon as the nuts have in a whole cup (8 oz).

This has lead me to believe that our taste buds do serve a purpose. I also think they are fooled by the addition of refined salt and sugar.

I also eat other things with absolutley no condiment or anything like that. But all I know is when I changed my ways, my body repaired itself and has been ever since. I did get sick due to exposure to mold, but I think that would've killed many people. I am sticking with what I am doing. Go to hell (jk), I'll be there later :-)

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/18/2011 9:56:59 PM   
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That you have no taste buds is both caused by and evidenced by your addicition to salt. Try actually tasting the food sometime.

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/18/2011 10:02:09 PM   
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Well, I guess that just adds to the lack of taste buds speculation.

P.S. Salt is salt. Refined? *giggles*

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/18/2011 10:37:00 PM   
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"Nobody's body can "handle" it, unless you consume so little that it's negligible."

I guess there's not much sense in persuing this since you made such a final statement. There is no room for error. All people who consume this die and all people who do not live. That is that, because "they" say that is that. I'd rather not argue the point. I'll be late to hell if you don't mind, in fact even if you do.

I'll put a whole stick of butter down my throat, eat two day old fries refried in sausage grease with mashed potatoes and eggs fried in bacon grease. And I'll have some fatty ham with it. Some other time (when I learn how to make it properly) I will have a panful of squatki, which is ham fat rendered down to nothing. The oil that comes off of it is almost as good as bacon grease for frying chicken.

And I prefer the cheapest ground meat available. I don't drink the grease but it is necessary for the shit to cook right. Otherwise the texture sucks. Pallette ? No, there are nutrients that are only soluble in oil(s) not water.

And my spread between diastolic and systolic averages 70 points.

But what I haven't mention is the garlic, the drinking of brine and the use of vinegar. The fact that I pour the oil off of Italian salad dressing. The certain veggies I eat, the nuts. And the spices. I believe that certain things do break up the cholesterol in your system, and that when that arterial plaque builds up in your arteries, it's because the shit it's made of didn't have the proper co-compounds in your body with which to combine into a useful or excretable form.

And salt is not salt. I DO NOT use refined salt at all. Especially table slt. I have been through all that and if you think it's bullshit I see no reason to waste keystrokes. But when I switched to this twenty buck a pound salt which clumps in the summer I noticed a difference.

Dispute it if you feel like it, but I am the immovable object here. I know I am right. However that does not mean I am right for everyone else, I only know I am right for me. Your situation could be very different..

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/19/2011 1:42:47 AM   
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"Nobody's body can "handle" it, unless you consume so little that it's negligible."

I guess there's not much sense in persuing this since you made such a final statement. There is no room for error. All people who consume this die and all people who do not live. That is that, because "they" say that is that. I'd rather not argue the point. I'll be late to hell if you don't mind, in fact even if you do.

I'll put a whole stick of butter down my throat, eat two day old fries refried in sausage grease with mashed potatoes and eggs fried in bacon grease. And I'll have some fatty ham with it. Some other time (when I learn how to make it properly) I will have a panful of squatki, which is ham fat rendered down to nothing. The oil that comes off of it is almost as good as bacon grease for frying chicken.

And I prefer the cheapest ground meat available. I don't drink the grease but it is necessary for the shit to cook right. Otherwise the texture sucks. Pallette ? No, there are nutrients that are only soluble in oil(s) not water.

And my spread between diastolic and systolic averages 70 points.

But what I haven't mention is the garlic, the drinking of brine and the use of vinegar. The fact that I pour the oil off of Italian salad dressing. The certain veggies I eat, the nuts. And the spices. I believe that certain things do break up the cholesterol in your system, and that when that arterial plaque builds up in your arteries, it's because the shit it's made of didn't have the proper co-compounds in your body with which to combine into a useful or excretable form.

And salt is not salt. I DO NOT use refined salt at all. Especially table slt. I have been through all that and if you think it's bullshit I see no reason to waste keystrokes. But when I switched to this twenty buck a pound salt which clumps in the summer I noticed a difference.

Dispute it if you feel like it, but I am the immovable object here. I know I am right. However that does not mean I am right for everyone else, I only know I am right for me. Your situation could be very different..

T^T


Wow, you're quite the drama queen twisting what I said.

You can't really say you're right about how the body functions if you don't know physiology.

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/19/2011 8:27:57 AM   
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Dispute it if you feel like it, but I am the immovable object here. I know I am right. However that does not mean I am right for everyone else, I only know I am right for me. Your situation could be very different..

T^T

well, imo, one of the biggest health problems is the inflamation from eating way too many processed carbs.. most people dont realize that & just how much of their diet is carbs. If you avoid eating processed carbs in your diet then imo, that could be the major reason for being relatively healthy.

I do think for optimum health, its a combination of a lot of factors from diet to exercise to the ability to de-stress to tons of great sex, etc, etc..

.. yeah,.. yeah.. thats it, just get tons of great sex.. thats the answer... it gets you de-stressed, its exercise, and it keeps ya outta the kitchen and away from those nasty processed carbs..

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/19/2011 10:00:36 AM   
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Well, I guess that just adds to the lack of taste buds speculation.

P.S. Salt is salt. Refined? *giggles*


Not only that, it is ALL "sea salt." Which makes me giggle when I see places advertising their "sea salt."

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/19/2011 10:15:43 AM   
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"Learn what you are talking about before making claims you can't support."

You learn about salmon. I can try but I really doubt I will ever care less because I can't stand the shit.

I must admit I like needling you because then you resort to namecalling and show your immaturity. Keep your salmon boy, the shit is fucking gross.

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So as usual you make claims with no basis in reality and when called on it you declare yourself superior and run away. Even by the standards of racist alcoholic potheads you're pathetic.

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/19/2011 2:26:14 PM   
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Well, I guess that just adds to the lack of taste buds speculation.

P.S. Salt is salt. Refined? *giggles*


Not only that, it is ALL "sea salt." Which makes me giggle when I see places advertising their "sea salt."


Uh oh. I have to disagree with Aylee and sort of agree with T^T. My day is ruined.

"Sea salt" has a different flavor than run of the mill table salt. It is somewhat lower in sodium chloride and higher in other minerals that are processed out of table salt. Also most table salt comes from underground mines, not the sea. I rarely use salt as a flavoring/flavor enhancer, but if I do I actually prefer Kosher salt (which comes from both underground and sea sources) to sea salt. I cant stand to eat most processed foods because the salt is overwhelming.

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/19/2011 2:28:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

Well, I guess that just adds to the lack of taste buds speculation.

P.S. Salt is salt. Refined? *giggles*


Not only that, it is ALL "sea salt." Which makes me giggle when I see places advertising their "sea salt."


Uh oh. I have to disagree with Aylee and sort of agree with T^T. My day is ruined.

"Sea salt" has a different flavor than run of the mill table salt. It is somewhat lower in sodium chloride and higher in other minerals that are processed out of table salt. Also most table salt comes from underground mines, not the sea. I rarely use salt as a flavoring/flavor enhancer, but if I do I actually prefer Kosher salt (which comes from both underground and sea sources) to sea salt. I cant stand to eat most processed foods because the salt is overwhelming.

Those underground salt deposits are there due to having once been sea beds. All significant concentrations of NaCl are due to deposition from sea water.

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/19/2011 2:44:09 PM   
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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

Well, I guess that just adds to the lack of taste buds speculation.

P.S. Salt is salt. Refined? *giggles*


Not only that, it is ALL "sea salt." Which makes me giggle when I see places advertising their "sea salt."


Uh oh. I have to disagree with Aylee and sort of agree with T^T. My day is ruined.

"Sea salt" has a different flavor than run of the mill table salt. It is somewhat lower in sodium chloride and higher in other minerals that are processed out of table salt. Also most table salt comes from underground mines, not the sea. I rarely use salt as a flavoring/flavor enhancer, but if I do I actually prefer Kosher salt (which comes from both underground and sea sources) to sea salt. I cant stand to eat most processed foods because the salt is overwhelming.

Those underground salt deposits are there due to having once been sea beds. All significant concentrations of NaCl are due to deposition from sea water.


Yes. That isnt the way I read Aylee's comment but youre probably right that is what she meant. T^Ts main claim of "refined" salt is still right though, if you take "refined" to mean processing out minerals and adding iodine and non-clumping agents.

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/19/2011 2:49:13 PM   
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I like what this guy did... his farm "produces 1,200 tons of sea bass, bream, red mullet and shrimp each year." He is not in the US tho...
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1902751,00.html


I agree with you. I've seen articles about the spanish fish farmer... and there are a number of places/people capable of doing the same thing here in the US. But not really enough to feed a population steadily. With the dense populations of the East Coast, you gotta go after a system that has minimal effect on the systems surrounding you.
  I'll tell ya, if the government or these imaginary 'businessmen' the right wingers keep saying will come along 'if we just lower taxes a little more' really wanted to create jobs I could guarantee about 100 - 150 in a year with an investment of about 2 mil.



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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/19/2011 3:16:59 PM   
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Uh oh. I have to disagree with Aylee and sort of agree with T^T. My day is ruined.

"Sea salt" has a different flavor than run of the mill table salt. It is somewhat lower in sodium chloride and higher in other minerals that are processed out of table salt. Also most table salt comes from underground mines, not the sea. I rarely use salt as a flavoring/flavor enhancer, but if I do I actually prefer Kosher salt (which comes from both underground and sea sources) to sea salt. I cant stand to eat most processed foods because the salt is overwhelming.


Come to Kansas! We have salt mines! We keep nifty things in them as well. Like space stuff. http://www.cosmo.org/ http://undergroundmuseum.org/index.php

Now. . . many, many years ago, before man hunted dinosaurs with the Remington bolt-action rifle, Kansas, and many other places were covered by the sea. However, because of this and that, the land moved and places that were wet, dried up. Leaving behind deposits. Some of these deposits were salt. After a long day of hunting with only a rock, Og dropped his dinosaur haunch dinner in one of these deposits. Being hungry, he ate it anyways and found that putting this leftover salt on his dinosaur steak was pretty good. Og became very popular when he introduced this to Ugg and Arlo. The three of them found that they could lure other dinosaurs into a trap by leaving some of the white stuff out in chunks. Hence, the founding of Salzburg.

There is another process that has become popular and faddish. Take a tanker truck to the beach, suck up a bunch of seawater, take it home and put it in wading pools inside of a greenhouse. Viola! After evaporation, you have attained salt. I think that this is the product that you are referring to.

I have used some once, because it was pink. I used it on some dark-chocolate covered bacon that I made for a friend.

As far as cooking goes, yes it can be beneficial to use different types of salt (Kosher, table, yadda) for different things in cooking.



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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/19/2011 3:33:21 PM   
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Uh oh. I have to disagree with Aylee and sort of agree with T^T. My day is ruined.

"Sea salt" has a different flavor than run of the mill table salt. It is somewhat lower in sodium chloride and higher in other minerals that are processed out of table salt. Also most table salt comes from underground mines, not the sea. I rarely use salt as a flavoring/flavor enhancer, but if I do I actually prefer Kosher salt (which comes from both underground and sea sources) to sea salt. I cant stand to eat most processed foods because the salt is overwhelming.


Come to Kansas! We have salt mines! We keep nifty things in them as well. Like space stuff. http://www.cosmo.org/ http://undergroundmuseum.org/index.php

Now. . . many, many years ago, before man hunted dinosaurs with the Remington bolt-action rifle, Kansas, and many other places were covered by the sea. However, because of this and that, the land moved and places that were wet, dried up. Leaving behind deposits. Some of these deposits were salt. After a long day of hunting with only a rock, Og dropped his dinosaur haunch dinner in one of these deposits. Being hungry, he ate it anyways and found that putting this leftover salt on his dinosaur steak was pretty good. Og became very popular when he introduced this to Ugg and Arlo. The three of them found that they could lure other dinosaurs into a trap by leaving some of the white stuff out in chunks. Hence, the founding of Salzburg.

There is another process that has become popular and faddish. Take a tanker truck to the beach, suck up a bunch of seawater, take it home and put it in wading pools inside of a greenhouse. Viola! After evaporation, you have attained salt. I think that this is the product that you are referring to.

I have used some once, because it was pink. I used it on some dark-chocolate covered bacon that I made for a friend.

As far as cooking goes, yes it can be beneficial to use different types of salt (Kosher, table, yadda) for different things in cooking.




Thanks a lot Aylee. Now I have to spend the day looking for dark-chocolate covered bacon recipes!

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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/19/2011 3:37:00 PM   
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RE: How safe are GMO's? - 9/19/2011 3:43:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Uh oh. I have to disagree with Aylee and sort of agree with T^T. My day is ruined.

"Sea salt" has a different flavor than run of the mill table salt. It is somewhat lower in sodium chloride and higher in other minerals that are processed out of table salt. Also most table salt comes from underground mines, not the sea. I rarely use salt as a flavoring/flavor enhancer, but if I do I actually prefer Kosher salt (which comes from both underground and sea sources) to sea salt. I cant stand to eat most processed foods because the salt is overwhelming.


Come to Kansas! We have salt mines! We keep nifty things in them as well. Like space stuff. http://www.cosmo.org/ http://undergroundmuseum.org/index.php

Now. . . many, many years ago, before man hunted dinosaurs with the Remington bolt-action rifle, Kansas, and many other places were covered by the sea. However, because of this and that, the land moved and places that were wet, dried up. Leaving behind deposits. Some of these deposits were salt. After a long day of hunting with only a rock, Og dropped his dinosaur haunch dinner in one of these deposits. Being hungry, he ate it anyways and found that putting this leftover salt on his dinosaur steak was pretty good. Og became very popular when he introduced this to Ugg and Arlo. The three of them found that they could lure other dinosaurs into a trap by leaving some of the white stuff out in chunks. Hence, the founding of Salzburg.

There is another process that has become popular and faddish. Take a tanker truck to the beach, suck up a bunch of seawater, take it home and put it in wading pools inside of a greenhouse. Viola! After evaporation, you have attained salt. I think that this is the product that you are referring to.

I have used some once, because it was pink. I used it on some dark-chocolate covered bacon that I made for a friend.

As far as cooking goes, yes it can be beneficial to use different types of salt (Kosher, table, yadda) for different things in cooking.




Thanks a lot Aylee. Now I have to spend the day looking for dark-chocolate covered bacon recipes!

The trick is to get the chocalate tempered before you dip the bacon in it. So if you've got a good candy thermometer and some patience it's fairly easy.

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