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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 1:39:06 PM

LadyPact

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I think some never give up the dream. Those are the guys who get a job delivering pizzas waiting for that opportunity to deliver to that house with the hot, young co-eds who are a little short on cash and offer a threesome as a tip.

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 1:43:58 PM

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I am holding on to my dream of being a pizza delivery boy dressed in latex. Mystic Pizza with a kinky twist!

Edited to add I am a kid at heart and I will never grow up on the inside!

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 1:49:17 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

I think some never give up the dream. Those are the guys who get a job delivering pizzas waiting for that opportunity to deliver to that house with the hot, young co-eds who are a little short on cash and offer a threesome as a tip.

Do you know how many times I have just walked up and knocked on a door with my dick hanging out my pants waiting for that hot looking gal to say, ...

Well, if you ain't got the vision, the dream; by now---I guess you guys never will....and I feel sorry for you all....

Imagination is more important than knowledge.

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 1:54:15 PM

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They, like all disillusioned idealists and dreamers, become cynics. From there, they approach life with a self-imposed bitterness, full of biting, scathing comments until they drown in the vileness of their own bile.

That was bitter, Kana. I have a feeling that you've had a bitter experience of bitter people . . . . . .

Nah. I'm all sunshine, fluffy bunny tails and sunflowers.
I just call things as I see em. :-)

Edited to add that I feel sorry for such folks. Life is too precious and short to waste on negativity.

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 2:13:16 PM

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Dude, where do you think all the male subs come from? Duh.

Darn! He's discovered our secret.

Oops, gotta run. I have to go deliver another pizza to the women's dormitory. I sure hope they're wearing clothes this time.

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 2:15:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Do you know how many times I have just walked up and knocked on a door with my dick hanging out my pants waiting for that hot looking gal to say, ...

You'll have to teach me your secret. Every time I try that little maneuver, I end up getting arrested.

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 2:19:18 PM

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

Dude, where do you think all the male subs come from? Duh.

This one doesn't really work. While I think you said it to take a swipe at male subs (which is probably better discussed on another thread) there is a similarity to the original.

Not especially because of the porn influence, but I do think some male subs aren't able to find a female Dominant and end up going vanilla. I think the same thing happens for some of those couples who would like to be poly, but are unable to find someone to join their household.

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 2:22:59 PM

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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail
Do you know how many times I have just walked up and knocked on a door with my dick hanging out my pants waiting for that hot looking gal to say, ...

You'll have to teach me your secret. Every time I try that little maneuver, I end up getting arrested.

Oh, me too. But the bars are only illusory when you are chasing the dream.........

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 2:23:52 PM

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Those are the guys who get a job delivering pizzas waiting for that opportunity to deliver to that house with the hot, young co-eds who are a little short on cash and offer a threesome as a tip.

We ordered Chinese for lunch a few weeks back, and the girl who delivered it was just adorable. Made me wish we didn't have any money.

We're going to be having Chinese for lunch on Sundays quite regularly I think.

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 2:29:46 PM

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ORIGINAL: LadyPact

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ORIGINAL: Awareness
Dude, where do you think all the male subs come from? Duh.

I do think some male subs aren't able to find a female Dominant and end up going vanilla.

I know that Awareness was merely joking, and taking a poke at male subs. However, there may be a bit of truth to his jest. If you look at the large number of male subs who frequent this site (and others like it), and the small number of female Dommes (relatively speaking), I'm sure that there is a lot of disillusionment that goes on.

How many times have we seen male subs make posts about how it's impossible to even get a Domme to reply to a message, much less actually get into a relationship with one? I'm sure those sentiments quickly morph into disillusionment. But where the disillusioned male subs actually go is anyone's guess.

That's a slightly different discussion than what Dark Steven originally described in his OP, but it's definitely a related topic.

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 2:39:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

Dude, where do you think all the male subs come from? Duh.

Jesus, Awareness, never go into politics. I've been reading your posts quite closely recently and thinking, 'You know what, though he's a grumpy sod, the lad has some points here and there.' Why bash an entire BDSM demographic like that?

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 2:44:24 PM

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But where the disillusioned male subs actually go is anyone's guess.

They don't go anywhere, they stick around and start threads about the evils of make up.

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 2:44:39 PM

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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: Awareness

Dude, where do you think all the male subs come from? Duh.

Jesus, Awareness, never go into politics. I've been reading your posts quite closely recently and thinking, 'You know what, though he's a grumpy sod, the lad has some points here and there.' Why bash an entire BDSM demographic like that?

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 2:56:54 PM

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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

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But where the disillusioned male subs actually go is anyone's guess.

They don't go anywhere, they stick around and start threads about the evils of make up.

See what you did? I had intentionally avoided reading that thread. But since you mentioned it, it piqued my curiosity, and I went and read the thread. Now I wish I could get back the 5 minutes that I just wasted reading it.

You owe me 5 minutes, Heather!!!!!! I want my 5 minutes back!!!! Grrrrrr!!!!!!

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 3:02:07 PM

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But where the disillusioned male subs actually go is anyone's guess.
They don't go anywhere, they stick around and start threads about the evils of make up.

Mmmmmnope in that case I would say delusional rather than disillusioned.

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 3:41:03 PM

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A friend and I were chatting about the many men who will believe the porn fantasies over their own RL experiences. There's this fantasy door through which we pass and suddenly all the women are horny bitches who will do anything for a man. Suspension of reality. I wonder what happens to the men who get disillusioned. Do they get a vanilla wife and wank off in secret? Do they stay single?

Anyone know?

Personally, I haven't many of the type of men you're describing. Most guys I know really aren't so sex-obsessed and they have a realistic grasp of what actual relationships are like.

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 6:15:25 PM

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I am in the middle chapters of a person in this sort of place. I knew I was sexually submissive from as soon as I discovered sexuality. As I've matured, I realize even some of my play as a young child - say 7 or 8 years old - was based in D/s undertones.

So, as I got older and tried to find dominant partners, I had zero success. So I waited until I was in my late 20's to really settle down. I married a woman who had to be dominant. She had professional and recreational traits that to me seemed to mean she might be dominant or at least inclined towards growing that way.

I was sadly mistaken. I tried for 10 years - she wouldn't have it - not even in the slightest. She wouldn't even study it from educational view to see if she could get a better understanding of what I was going through. It was simply a taboo that she wasn't willing to even consider.

I had a taboo of divorce - the inner shame - so I stayed married another 6 years until I felt I wouldn't be doing harm to our daughter's view of the world. Time will tell on that one I guess.

With my taboo of divorce, I also couldn't rationalize being unfaithful.

So that leaves me as a 45 year old guy who has had a fantasy world for 30 years. I realize I am a total newb at something that I've thought about almost daily for 3 decades. Maybe I will be that disillusioned guy. I worry I'll find a person I feel comfortable with, and wammo - this isn't anything like what I had created in my head.

I guess it probably comes down to finding a partner that you mesh with on several levels - There is a wide spectrum in the culture, and entering into an intimate relationship with a partner who you don't mesh well with will lead to failure. Then again, that is true in vanilla too. Like any successful endeavor, communication is key - there will often be disillusionment when there is a lack of open and honest communication. I think I rambled as I typed this out and thought into things a little more deeply. My apologies.

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 6:57:59 PM

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*drily* It seems Roch picked up my intent, even if you missed it.

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 7:53:58 PM

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Anyone know?

i have a couple of guesses...

The shallow ones have a vanilla wife and grown kids, none of whom know about their activities, proportedly for their own good. They keep profiles on collarme and fetlife, putting the moves on any woman with a pulse and then dumping them when fresh meat comes along. They never stay in one place long enough for disillusionment to kick in.

The philosophical ones retreat to the collarme forums where they make lots of sarcastic, bitter posts while they secretly wait for that one special person.

pam

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RE: Anyone know what happens to the disillusioned men? - 9/15/2011 8:38:39 PM

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FR to the original question: They adopt a goose and move to the country.

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