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willbeurdaddy -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/15/2011 8:16:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

The BIG problem that Cons have with the cervical cancer vaccine is that, supposedly, it will make all those innocent virginal HS girls become promiscuous.


You cant make sit like that up.


Apparently YOU can.




erieangel -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/15/2011 8:24:59 PM)

Usually when a politician evokes something somebody told him/her is goes like this:  "I just met "Mary" and she told me..."  Bachmann failed to even make give us a fictitious name, which makes me doubt the woman even exists.  Unless, of course, Bachmann didn't care to even get the woman's name--I wouldn't put it past her not to care to do so. 
However, my brother has 3 children who fail within the autism spectrum disorder and not once were vaccines ever considered to be the cause of their disorders.  I certainly can't see how mental retardation can occur in an "older" child, that particular disorder is usually evident shortly after birth or at least by the time the child is a toddler. 




Hillwilliam -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/15/2011 8:42:34 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

The BIG problem that Cons have with the cervical cancer vaccine is that, supposedly, it will make all those innocent virginal HS girls become promiscuous.


You cant make sit like that up.


Apparently YOU can.


No, apparently I CAN'T

Do you want your crow fried or boiled?

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1206813,00.html

http://www.slate.com/id/2174850/

http://www.sheknows.com/health-and-wellness/articles/805742/does-the-hpv-vaccine-promote-teen-promiscuity

http://www.zimbio.com/Kathrine+Kimzey/articles/5/HPV+Vaccine+Sexual+Promiscuity

http://cancer.about.com/od/hpvcervicalcancervaccine/a/controversyHPV.htm

http://www.suite101.com/content/parents-refuse-their-girls-the-hpv-vaccine-a86860

http://www.agnostic-library.com/ma/2011/09/14/religious-right-candidates-tussle-over-promiscuity-vaccine/

http://shine.yahoo.com/channel/sex/infuriating-bogus-claim-hpv-vaccine-promotes-sexual-promiscuity-166048

http://www.momlogic.com/2008/05/hpv_vaccine_promotes_promiscui.php

There' a couple hundred more if you want to look but the gist of it is that the religious rightnicks are afraid that HPV vaccine is a ticket to promiscuity.

Are you so ignorant you can't spend 5 seconds on Google to avoid looking fucking stupid?




DeviantlyD -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/15/2011 10:49:38 PM)


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ORIGINAL: MileHighM

Thank God she is shooting herself in the foot.

I am offering a $1.00 bet that she will hang it up in the next 60days.


It's possible she's too deluded to have that happen. Much like a certain poster on this thread! :D



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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

prove the opposite. I dare you.

No such adverse reaction has ever been reported to the CDC and no such claim has been heard by the federal board that reviews vaccine injuries and compensates anyone actually injured by vaccines. The HPV vaccine is one of the safest vaccines ever produced with no known side effects except for those associated with receiving any injection.
http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Vaccines/HPV/gardasil.html

So proven enough for any court.


You actually took his post seriously? I don't think I ever do. :)





Termyn8or -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/15/2011 11:09:00 PM)

"A friend of mine swears her boy was healthy and became autistic after his vaccinations."

We've been through all that. The current consensus is that it is perfectly OK to pump mercury into an infant's body. Proven fact by some website written by a guy with letters after his name.

Eat mercury, it's good for you, everyone knows that in 2011. The government says so, it must be so. Pfizer and Merck told them, that's even more proof. Buy the vaccine. Vaccinate early and vaccinate often.

Just ask any of the staus quoers in here, it will go much easier for you if you just believe the proper authorities.

T^T




tazzygirl -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 1:02:44 AM)

Information about Thimerosal
Since 2001, with the exception of some influenza (flu) vaccines, thimerosal is not used as a preservative in routinely recommended childhood vaccines.

Source... CDC.




subrob1967 -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 1:21:45 AM)

I this this mystery woman is off having breakfast with Harry Reid's little friend Devin




tazzygirl -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 1:45:30 AM)

I think in light of the recent exposure of lies by Wakefield a politician should have better sense than this.





tazzygirl -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 2:22:37 AM)

No causative links have been found to many of the serius complications being associated with the vaccine.

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/Vaccines/HPV/gardasil.html




Moonhead -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 6:17:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: pahunkboy

WRONG


Your post #3:
quote:

prove the opposite.   I dare you.


Stating that this is you demanding an opposite proof is WRONG how, exactly?




Hillwilliam -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 8:49:50 AM)

Maybe the mystery woman is Joe the Plumber's wife.




Kirata -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 8:51:30 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

No causative links have been found to many of the serius complications being associated with the vaccine.

The operative (and missing) word in your sentence is "yet." But granted, maybe none will ever be found. The fact remains, if I saw stories turning up about cats -- nevermind children -- suffering serious complications after receiving a particular vaccine, I'd be weighing the alternatives pretty damn carefully before letting Aiki have the shot. And if that sentiment qualifies as hysteria these days, we've turned a serious fucking bend in the road.

K.




DomKen -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 9:08:19 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

No causative links have been found to many of the serius complications being associated with the vaccine.

The operative (and missing) word in your sentence is "yet." But granted, maybe none will ever be found. The fact remains, if I saw stories turning up about cats -- nevermind children -- suffering serious complications after receiving a particular vaccine, I'd be weighing the alternatives pretty damn carefully before letting Aiki have the shot. And if that sentiment qualifies as hysteria these days, we've turned a serious fucking bend in the road.

K.


Read the CDC site not a bunch of anecdotes published in newspapers. The fact is that Gardasil has been administered millions of times and no adverse reactions beyond the ones associated with all injections have ever been found. In any large group of people there will always be deaths and strange illnesses and that is all that has happened with Gardasil. The CDC has more than enough data to show a pattern if there was one to find.




slvemike4u -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 9:10:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I think in light of the recent exposure of lies by Wakefield a politician should have better sense than this.


Above and beyond that it was extremely irresponsible of her to parrot such undocumented bullshit.As she said parents do not get a mulligan...so let us picture some not to bright parents hearing her nonsense and deciding that they will not risk such a side effect with their little girl......little girl contracts cervical cancer later in life.Farfetched hypothetical...perhaps but much more likely a scenario than a child developing mental issues as a result of receiving this vaccine.




DomYngBlk -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 9:21:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

No causative links have been found to many of the serius complications being associated with the vaccine.

The operative (and missing) word in your sentence is "yet." But granted, maybe none will ever be found. The fact remains, if I saw stories turning up about cats -- nevermind children -- suffering serious complications after receiving a particular vaccine, I'd be weighing the alternatives pretty damn carefully before letting Aiki have the shot. And if that sentiment qualifies as hysteria these days, we've turned a serious fucking bend in the road.

K.


Read the CDC site not a bunch of anecdotes published in newspapers. The fact is that Gardasil has been administered millions of times and no adverse reactions beyond the ones associated with all injections have ever been found. In any large group of people there will always be deaths and strange illnesses and that is all that has happened with Gardasil. The CDC has more than enough data to show a pattern if there was one to find.


Oh come on, he googled it..scanned the articles and came to the obvious conclusion that the CDC is hiding something that could hurt his dog or daughter.......




DomKen -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 9:33:20 AM)

Bachmann says don't listen to her she doesn't know what she's talking about.
http://politics.blogs.foxnews.com/2011/09/15/bachmann-i-didnt-make-any-statements-would-indicate-im-doctor

using FNC to keep the righties panties from getting in a wad.




Aylee -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 10:43:09 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: slvemike4u


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I think in light of the recent exposure of lies by Wakefield a politician should have better sense than this.


Above and beyond that it was extremely irresponsible of her to parrot such undocumented bullshit.As she said parents do not get a mulligan...so let us picture some not to bright parents hearing her nonsense and deciding that they will not risk such a side effect with their little girl......little girl contracts cervical cancer later in life.Farfetched hypothetical...perhaps but much more likely a scenario than a child developing mental issues as a result of receiving this vaccine.


Or when she goes in for her "Well-Woman's Check-up" a conversation with the doctor will occur. MUCH more likely. (As opposed to contracting cervical cancer.)




slvemike4u -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 11:01:51 AM)

I did say it was a far fetched hypothetical.Perhaps one taken to the extreme...but here is the point(since it seems it wasn't drawn quite clear enough for you) Bachman is running for her parties nominationto the highest office in the land...yet she is prone to irresponsible and foolish comments....is that really a quality you are looking for in your President?




Aylee -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 12:01:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: slvemike4u

I did say it was a far fetched hypothetical.Perhaps one taken to the extreme...but here is the point(since it seems it wasn't drawn quite clear enough for you) Bachman is running for her parties nominationto the highest office in the land...yet she is prone to irresponsible and foolish comments....is that really a quality you are looking for in your President?


I am not convinced that she is more prone than any other to make foolish comments. At this point in the election cycle I am fairly indifferent to all of it.

With the Gardasil issue, I have found mostly knee-jerk reactions across the spectrum instead of rational thinking.

As Gov. Moonbeam was recently reported as saying, "Not every human problem deserves a law."




tazzygirl -> RE: $11k if you can prove Michelle Bachmann wasn't lying (9/16/2011 12:11:21 PM)

No one is addressing the mandatory issue. I think it should be left up to the parents... with stipulations that if you dont get them immunized, then home school.

What people are objecting too is her statement that this particular vaccine is dangerous when there is no evidence.




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