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Epytropos -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 4:33:42 PM)

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ORIGINAL: DesFIP
As to why I am totally turned off bi guys? Which nobody asked about, btw. Years of experience of them coming on to me, and then a day later being all over somebody else. I have never known a bi male who is monogamous.


I started to write a rebuttal to this. It was going to have statistical analysis and correlation-causality arguments a priori. There was even gonna be some experiential stuff in there just for fun, all about how I've never had a non-monogamous relationship in my life. Then I realized something. You don't actually matter. If I convince you 100% of my position, nothing in my world changes. So continue with your commitment to the idea that certain sexual persuasions are entirely made up of certain personality types and may it serve you well.




PeonForHer -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 4:35:56 PM)

Well you can't, Zephyr. I've decided I'm now entirely gay and now hate anyone with a vagina, no matter how much it looks like a beard.




Arpig -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 4:36:51 PM)

I know you haven't, but who gives a fuck if you have or not, reality has no bearing on the accusations we fling around on these boards. And you'll sick your lawyers on me? [sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif] bring em on! There isn't a thing your lawyers could do to me that would in any way affect my life.

Oh, and just a friendly word of advice...don't try dispute the idiotic charges, that will only confirm them in the eyes of the idiots.




barelynangel -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 4:44:19 PM)

chuckles, Heather, you don't get it, i and others are VERY honest with themselves, or is that only reserved for people who have decided they are gay and lesbian and so anyone who can actually be turned off by that idea must not be being honest with themselves?

The fact is simple Heather, some women simply don't want bi-sexual men.   It simply just is.  It's not something that needs a negative analysis or a positive one.  YOu are the one making it this big negative thing and somehow making people who aren't homophobic homophobic, you are screaming bigotry because people have certain concepts that turn them on and off.  You have gone as far to tell people on the internet you don't know that their turn off is because of fear and bigotry (though i think you just like to use this word and don't really know its meaning). 


Lets see why do i deny it well 1) i have no fear or aversion to gay men or bisexual men, i have a sexual turn off by them that is hard wired in me that i lose sexual interest in them- but can easily remain friends with them, (But i guess Heather is the only one who knows what is hard-wired in her); 2)  If you are calling my loss of sexual feeling and then not wasting my time not having sex with them discrimination lol then you need to really concern yourself with bigger things. 

Lets take a closer look at the word bigot Heather, from Merriam-Webster,

a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.

Umm well are you seriously sitting here telling people that because they know themselves and tell you that they aren't sexually attracted to men who are bi or gay they are intolerantly devoted to their opinions and prejudices?  Hell we aren't even speaking of attraction but sexual attraction.   To make you even more excited to call me and others phobic and bigots Heather, i find many gay men attractive, but that doesn't mean i get sexually aroused by them.

As i said, i think you are trying too hard to make this a negative thing.  You yourself said peope can't help their sexual attractions, and yet you are sitting here telling people they can help losing that loving feeling.  Make up our minds, Heather, you can't have it both ways.

Maybe instead of being so insistant on naming it Heather, you just accept that some people get turned on by certain things and turned off by others.  And it will make you happier i am sure to realize that while a few gay/bi  men have been turned away from me there are a hell of a lot more heterosexual men who get turned away do to things they can't help either -- being an idiot, being an asshole, being born a jerk, being born short, being out of shape.  And just like gay and bi men, i have no phobia or bigotry in these concepts that turn me off sexually also. 

angel




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 4:45:33 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Well you can't, Zephyr. I've decided I'm now entirely gay and now hate anyone with a vagina, no matter how much it looks like a beard.


That's too bad Peon because I'm more than willing to help out a good man like you. See what happened. You started out het, explored bi and now good lord you're gay. I guess gender preferences are more fluid than I thought. Could you let me know when you get around to being het again?




PeonForHer -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 4:46:20 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Arpig
And you'll sick your lawyers on me? [sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif][sm=lol.gif] bring em on! There isn't a thing your lawyers could do to me that would in any way affect my life.


There is. They could get a judge to order a team of combine harvesters to descend upon your chin, for a start. Still, on the plus side, they could make mattresses for all the poor in Africa with the results.





PeonForHer -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 4:49:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth. Could you let me know when you get around to being het again?


Probably around six tomorrow evening. I like to have a bath around that time, and generally partake of an agreeable tadpole fountain beforehand, whilst looking at pictures of women's bottoms.




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 4:55:08 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth. Could you let me know when you get around to being het again?


Probably around six tomorrow evening. I like to have a bath around that time, and generally partake of an agreeable tadpole fountain beforehand, whilst looking at pictures of women's bottoms.


Ooops bad timing. By then I expect to be 100% gay and will be spending the evening sighing over pictures of women. Then again we would both be into women. Perhaps we could get together and compare likes/dislikes?




Arpig -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 4:58:35 PM)

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The fact is simple Heather, some women simply don't want bi-sexual men. It simply just is.
And the fact is barely, that those women are homophobic bigots. Shut up and deal with it.

The more you go on trying to justify it the stupider you make yourself look. I realize that that is a hard thing to do in your case, you are succeeding quite handily.




PeonForHer -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 4:58:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth
Ooops bad timing. By then I expect to be 100% gay and will be spending the evening sighing over pictures of women. Then again we would both be into women. Perhaps we could get together and compare likes/dislikes?


No, I think we should get together and have some full-on, no-holds-barred, who-cares-who's-screwing-who-and-whatever-their-sex, bonking!




Arpig -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 5:00:16 PM)

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There is. They could get a judge to order a team of combine harvesters to descend upon your chin, for a start. Still, on the plus side, they could make mattresses for all the poor in Africa with the results.
There you go, the steroids again. A lack of facial and body hair is a common side affect you know.




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 5:09:07 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth
Ooops bad timing. By then I expect to be 100% gay and will be spending the evening sighing over pictures of women. Then again we would both be into women. Perhaps we could get together and compare likes/dislikes?


No, I think we should get together and have some full-on, no-holds-barred, who-cares-who's-screwing-who-and-whatever-their-sex, bonking!


I like your thinking Peon. Let's blast those stereotypes that gay people only have sex with those of their gender. Hold on a sec, just had a thought. That would make us bi, wouldn't it?




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 5:10:52 PM)

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There you go, the steroids again. A lack of facial and body hair is a common side affect you know.


It's also a common side effect of shaving. [8|]




ILustAfterPeon -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 5:51:50 PM)


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Well you can't, Zephyr. I've decided I'm now entirely gay and now hate anyone with a vagina, no matter how much it looks like a beard.


Darn darn darn darn darn! Please tell me I'm not too late? [:(]




PeonForHer -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 5:55:13 PM)

Not for you, honey. You could be of a hitherto unidentified gender in the universe, but I'd still bring you flowers and sing as best as I can outside your bedroom window.




LadyHibiscus -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 5:57:27 PM)

Hmph!




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 5:57:34 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ILustAfterPeon


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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer

Well you can't, Zephyr. I've decided I'm now entirely gay and now hate anyone with a vagina, no matter how much it looks like a beard.


Darn darn darn darn darn! Please tell me I'm not too late? [:(]


You aren't. He will be het again by tomorrow evening. All you have to do is wait til then.




ILustAfterPeon -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 6:01:33 PM)

Whew!
Tick tock! [sm=hearts.gif]




CynthiaWVirginia -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 6:03:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: HeatherMcLeather

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I would reject a man as a partner if he were bi.

Sorry, but that makes about as much sense as saying you would reject a man as a partner if he liked cheesecake.



I would reject a man as a partner if he were bisexual.  If I were into poly and wanted to be the middle part of an oreo cookie, or if I got off on watching two men have sex with each other, that would be different. 

Since I am into one-on-one, a straight, as opposed to bi, guy is less of a risk.  How many of us have known bi guys who tried marriage to a woman they were in love with...and ended up leaving the wife for another man...I have known several.  Most bi men I have known as friends have ended up preferring only male partners as the years go by. 

I freely admit to being unfair about certain things, and this is one of them.  Another has been my refusal to date men who are too high above me economically or socially.  I remain completely unapologetic about any of my sexual or relationship requirements.  [:D]




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Would you be less inclined to submit to a man who'd been raped? (9/17/2011 6:04:51 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ILustAfterPeon

Whew!
Tick tock! [sm=hearts.gif]


[:)] If I recall correctly he should be good to go at 6 pm his time. Don't forget to take pics. Oh and while you're at it please check him for steroid usage. I offered but if you're closer you may as well do it.




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