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LadyPact -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 6:51:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph oh you are worried about the gene pool? then castration would be more suitable ... what if they already had produced offspring - remove them from the gene pool too? sorry to spoil your idea - there is no murder gene I think you're a little caught up just because the wrong terminology was used. Had he said "remove such attackers from the population" rather than gene pool, I don't think your argument would hold water.

Rule -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 6:55:48 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph what if they already had produced offspring - remove them from the gene pool too? No, some female apparently judged their genetic health superior to any other male she could choose, so such offspring in priciple is a positive contribution to the gene pool. quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph sorry to spoil your idea - there is no murder gene You are wrong.

Rule -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 7:04:41 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyPact I think you're a little caught up just because the wrong terminology was used. Had he said "remove such attackers from the population" rather than gene pool, I don't think your argument would hold water. The capital sentence is wrought around with ethical issues, like e.g. false convictions. Whereas the death sentence might have a positive effect on the gene pool, there are other means to achieve the same end. I am not saying that I am for capital punishment. I do am for stopping circumcision as that will favor the promulgation of a conscience within populations. I do oppose incarceration: it costs a lot. ETA: Oh, and blnymph was plain wrong.

TheHeretic -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 7:06:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph with this argument any government was, is, and will be, justified to to practically anything they want ... Well, I don't know how things work where you are Blnymph, but here in the States, this happens to be one of the things which we the people have delegated. We have it settled right out in the Bill of Rights. No person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law. We obviously have a rather fundamental disagreement here. I believe that when the State murders someone in cold blood as punishment for an exceptionally heinous crime, it is called Justice. Get the right one, by all means, but if we are going to call ourselves civilized, we don't allow these killers to keep breathing our air.

lockedaway -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 7:08:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph oh you are worried about the gene pool? then castration would be more suitable ... what if they already had produced offspring - remove them from the gene pool too? sorry to spoil your idea - there is no murder gene Ummmmmmmm....how would castration prevent the perpetrator from committing another murder? I'm a little fuzzy on that. What if the perpetrator was a woman...how would you castrate her? While there may be no murder gene, there are genes that predispose sociopathy.

SternSkipper -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 7:10:08 PM)
quote: Dipping into the Samuel Adams? I very clearly said that I do believe in the PRINCIPLES, that I believe they were wrong about the SOURCE of them is irrelevant. I wasn't asking about god.

blnymph -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 7:16:18 PM)
I agree that we disagree fundamentally "when the state murders someone in cold blood" I call it murder whatever state with whatever "justification" and I wont start a debate about what is civilized or not, except that murder is not

lockedaway -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 7:19:18 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph I agree that we disagree fundamentally "when the state murders someone in cold blood" I call it murder whatever state with whatever "justification" and I wont start a debate about what is civilized or not, except that murder is not lololol and what about when a pregnancy is terminated in cold blood?????? :) Wasn't the fetus that was terminated full of much more potential than the murderer that was put to death?

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 7:38:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph I agree that we disagree fundamentally "when the state murders someone in cold blood" I call it murder whatever state with whatever "justification" and I wont start a debate about what is civilized or not, except that murder is not Apparently you dont know the meaning of "in cold blood", because that is not what capital punishment is.

lockedaway -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 7:41:07 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy quote: ORIGINAL: blnymph I agree that we disagree fundamentally "when the state murders someone in cold blood" I call it murder whatever state with whatever "justification" and I wont start a debate about what is civilized or not, except that murder is not Apparently you dont know the meaning of "in cold blood", because that is not what capital punishment is. She is only going to answer you that "in cold blood" means with deliberate premeditation regardless of whether it comes from the hired killer stalking a victim or from a jury deliberating over the accused.

TheHeretic -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 8:30:41 PM)
I said, "cold blood," Wilbur. What else are you going to call it? We kill someone in an elaborate, protracted ritual. It as calculating, and premeditated, as it gets.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 8:34:47 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic I said, "cold blood," Wilbur. What else are you going to call it? We kill someone in an elaborate, protracted ritual. It as calculating, and premeditated, as it gets. It is a deliberative, thoughtful and difficult decision every time someone receives a death sentence and the appeals process following it. The opposite of cold blooded, an instinctive reptilian act. (I didnt notice that balonymph was quoting you, since it didnt use the quote function)

TheHeretic -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 9:16:09 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy The opposite of cold blooded, an instinctive reptilian act. http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/in_cold_blood.htm

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 9:24:32 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy The opposite of cold blooded, an instinctive reptilian act. http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/in_cold_blood.htm Which supports exactly what I said.

TheHeretic -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 9:36:39 PM)
I guess sending you to an English as a second language dictionary site was too subtle, huh? Without emotion. Passionless. What else are you going to call it, Wilbur? There are three-ring binders, and checklists, for fuck's sake.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 9:45:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheHeretic I guess sending you to an English as a second language dictionary site was too subtle, huh? Without emotion. Passionless. What else are you going to call it, Wilbur? There are three-ring binders, and checklists, for fuck's sake. As I said, it is far from without emotion and passionless, it is difficult and emotional for every juror in the penalty phase, and those who attend. "Confirming the findings of most other recent jury studies, Sundby finds that these conscripts approach their task conscientiously, determined to do justice. But he also finds that even when the legal requirements are clear, it proves surprisingly difficult for most jurors to actually vote to impose death on a human being."

SternSkipper -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 9:56:36 PM)
quote: quote: ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy The opposite of cold blooded, an instinctive reptilian act. http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/in_cold_blood.htm And all this time I was thinking your punchline would be.... [image]local://upfiles/18637/F5382976DA644F438657A6D3607AA4FE.jpg[/image]

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 10:12:40 PM)
Now youve done it....I was trying to avoid getting Hunky all hot and bothered.

TheHeretic -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 10:22:42 PM)
We'll probably do better, Skippy, if you stop assuming in advance, that you know what I think. [;)]

SternSkipper -> RE: Troy Davis is now dead... (9/22/2011 10:28:33 PM)
quote: Now youve done it....I was trying to avoid getting Hunky all hot and bothered. \ FUCK ... Now Ya Tell me[:@]

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