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LadyPact -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:42:22 AM)
From the financial angle, why would anybody want a person who costs more than they are worth? All those same services can be brought to the table by someone who maintains their own residence, health care plan, and retirement fund. It's kind of silly for someone who is currently requiring medications for an illness and the services of a psychiatrist to say that those costs aren't necessary should a person find a situation where D/s is involved. From a dollars and cents view, it would be much more beneficial to have someone who has no history of those types of expenses.

GreedyTop -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:42:51 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery A car? Forget it, i dont NEED nor WANT a car EVER. i do NOT know how to DRIVE the insurance would be ASTRONOMICAL, it s a non starter, so that s that expense quashed kevin one more reason why you are so totally undesirable.

CeriseNin -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:43:08 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: GreedyTop quote: ORIGINAL: CeriseNin quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery if She is taking in big bucks each week and can afford it , it is only fair, after all i am providing HER with a service FREE of charge otherwise, and dont talk to me about the fact that it is costing Her of course it is costing Her but is only costing Her bread and board and gas and honestly i cant be bothered by that flummery , if a Domme uses that flummery as a reason not to take me as Her slave and She can well afford the money it would cost to keep me, then She is the one who will miss out and i dont honestly want to serve someone as rapacious as that, give and take folks, give and take, and im doing most of the giving , the financial side is incidental when the income per week is $3 to $5000 and possibly more , who knows kevin No; she would also have to pay for your, shelter (bed, dressers, toiletries), clothing, hospital stay, prescriptions. Not free, and not only bread and gas. Clearly you've not thought this out. of course he has, Cerise.. sadly, his THOUGHTS are all planted firmly in the realm that is beyond the reality of any rational kinkster.... Yeah, because he's a leach.

lobodomslavery -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:43:22 AM)
But the point is to RELIEVE her of that HASSLE, why look for a slave if you can do all housework and other tasks happily yourself, its not necessary, why would you bother, unless Your a GOLD DIGGER kevin

lobodomslavery -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:45:06 AM)
if there is chemistry and the person wants a slave, Finance and lack of it that the other partner brings should not be an issue kevin

GreedyTop -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:45:17 AM)
congrats on recognizing and admitting you are a gold-digger, kevvie! That is a GOOD step in the therapy thing!!

LillyBoPeep -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:45:17 AM)
so how will you get around? what if she wants you to go to the grocery store and get stuff to make her dinner? if you can't drive, now you're a liability to her, and more work, not less. certainly some people choose to keep a partner at home. male Masters often choose to keep their girls at home, and no one calls them leeches. so if you did find a Mistress who wanted to keep you home, more power to the both of you. but to assume that this is part and parcel of legitimate M/s is asinine. there are just as many legitimate M/s relationships where both parties work.

lobodomslavery -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:46:11 AM)
Why does not being able to drive a car or want to drive a car make someone automatically unreliable, ever heard of walking, good old feet? or are you all mechanically minded too kevin

lobodomslavery -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:47:11 AM)
no no im not a gold digger but some Dommes undoubtedly, not necessarily on this forum , but elsewhere, ARE kevin

impishlilhellcat -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:47:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery How is cooking for someone free of charge a leech? How is hoovering for someone free of charge a leech? How is doing all housework that would otherwise and repair and yard work that would otherwise cost that favourite word MONEY leeching off someone. im sorry you make me exasperated Greedy Top and did you or did you not use expletives yes you did i quote AND TAKE YOUR FUCKING MEDS. fuck off, kevvie. have i used such expletives, no i have shown admirable restraint, something you are either incapable of doing or are otherwise unable to express yourself without resorting to foul language, so yes i do think you could benefit from anger management classes because unlike You i am able to keep my composure when angry kevin Because most likely she wouldn't pay someone else to do those things. She would most likely do them herself. So, technically there isn't any previous leeching there. You are essentially charging money for a service that would be done for free. You are making submission/slavery a business. It isn't a free of charge service you are providing. You are expecting that person to support you 100%. That means an extra added expense of clothing, feeding, and providing housing at the VERY least. Doesn't seem like much of a fair trade off to me. The Domme may save a little bit of time, but not without a high added expense. It's like adding a child to the family. Just because I make a good salary doesn't mean I want to use my extra income supporting someone else who is capable of supporting themselves or financially able to contribute to the household and just doesn't want to work. I would much rather buy books or life's other little pleasure. Just my opinion though. To each their own.

GreedyTop -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:47:42 AM)
jesus.. the fantasy keeps getting more stupid and silly... do everyone a favor and kill your computer?

lobodomslavery -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:48:18 AM)
walk, cycle. kevin

BonesFromAsh -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:49:02 AM)
~Fast reply~ And yet again, another thread becomes all about CM's "poor me" poster child. [8\|] SSDD

GreedyTop -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:49:23 AM)
you are a stupid cunt..

LillyBoPeep -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:49:46 AM)
great post hellcat -- that's it exactly. house me, feed me, pay for me to do stuff you can do yourself. that's not service unless she decides it is. if she doesn't, and you insist on it, or bail and call her a "fake," then you're only serving yourself.

CeriseNin -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:51:43 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery But the point is to RELIEVE her of that HASSLE, why look for a slave if you can do all housework and other tasks happily yourself, its not necessary, why would you bother, unless Your a GOLD DIGGER kevin No. The point is you would cost more than you're worth. The bottom line - - it's more of a hassle to pay bread, medical bills, and gas for someone with little to no return.

LillyBoPeep -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:52:37 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery Why does not being able to drive a car or want to drive a car make someone automatically unreliable, ever heard of walking, good old feet? or are you all mechanically minded too kevin walking's an option some places, but not all. what if she lives somewhere, like a subdivision, that's miles and miles away from the nearest highway just so you can get into town to get to a grocery store? are you going to walk that whole distance with 50 lbs of groceries? unless you live in NYC or want to be a house "slave" sitting around the house all day, in most places in america, you need a car -- or at least familiarity with a bus schedule. are you going to put in your profile "only seeking Dommes who live near bus routes?" =p

PeonForHer -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:52:47 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep . . . there's still this underlying assumption that somehow women can't make good decisions. just because the OP has a belief, doesn't mean that a girl he gets with is automatically downtrodden. isn't it possible that she actively chose to be with him because that ideology fulfills her? (My bolds) Well, before this turns into yet another dismal Kevin thread . . . . Yes, indeed. It's the emboldened words that are key, for me. BDSM is about choice and it was choice for women that feminists fought for. I don't think people are really aware of the difference between those women who've absorbed that feminist world-view but choose to be submissive, and those women who are submissive as a result of never taking on that feminist world-view in the first place.

impishlilhellcat -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:53:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: SomoneReal Look around and see what a mess feminism has made of the female gender. Fifty years ago a woman was happy to stay at home and cook a meal for their husband as if he were their king, and afterward she would ride his dick until HE said they were done. It's about time that we return to the original order of things and live life the way that nature intended it. 50 years ago the economy was a lot different. People could afford to survive on a one income household. That doesn't happen so much any more. It's difficult times and people are struggling to survive and support their families. I don't equate a female working outside of the home as masculinity. I am more educated than my husband and I make more money on yearly basis than he does. Yet, he runs and controls the household. I give my input and I voice my opinions. Ultimately, he makes the final decision. He pays the bills and he manages the money. I cook and I clean. Would he like me to be a full time stay at home wife? Yes, he would. In this economy is that reasonable or sensible? Nope, not really.

GreedyTop -> RE: Feminism Has Made Women Too Masculine (9/25/2011 9:54:48 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep . . . there's still this underlying assumption that somehow women can't make good decisions. just because the OP has a belief, doesn't mean that a girl he gets with is automatically downtrodden. isn't it possible that she actively chose to be with him because that ideology fulfills her? (My bolds) Well, before this turns into yet another dismal Kevin thread . . . . Yes, indeed. It's the emboldened words that are key, for me. BDSM is about choice and it was choice for women that feminists fought for. I don't think people are really aware of the difference between those women who've absorbed that feminist world-view but choose to be submissive, and those women who are submissive as a result of never taking on that feminist world-view in the first place. excellent point, darlin!

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