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Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 11:27:52 AM   
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Pesky elections just make it too darned hard to rule with an iron fist

North Carolina Gov. Perdue's 'suspend elections' comment draws a backlash





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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 11:30:31 AM   
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Something else from that same vein:

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But Perdue’s suggestion to call off the 2012 general election has been coupled with a recent essay by Peter Orzsag, President Obama’s former director of the Office of Management and Budget and a key figure in the passage of Democrats’ health law, and held up by conservative bloggers as part of a s0-called democratic assault on democracy.

Orzsag, in an article titled “Too Much of a Good Thing: Why We Need Less Democracy,” said his stint working for the president convinced him that the country’s “political polarization was growing worse – harming Washington’s ability to do the basic, necessary work of governing.”


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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 11:38:26 AM   
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This way there is less worry about being re=elected, and more about improving the economy!



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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 11:40:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Her words were obviously said in sarcasm, and disgust at the way things are going. I find it sad that you cannot even make a joke without that pig Limbaugh twisting everything.

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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 11:42:56 AM   
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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 11:48:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		The original site tells that she said that it was sarcasm straight away.
I doubt that is in the OP or anywhere ....
by the sound of it
http://www.wbtv.com/story/15568277/nc-gov-comments-about-suspending-election-draws-interest

http://www.news-record.com/content/2011/09/28/article/pundits_criticize_perdue_comment
THOMASVILLE — So was Gov. Bev Perdue’s now infamous comment about suspending elections a joke, hyperbole, sarcasm or — as her Republican opponents would have you believe — a deadly serious suggestion?
and another......
Democratic Gov. Bev Perdue has long had a reputation for shoot-from-the-hip remarks that leave her audiences shaking their heads, part of her folksy, I'm-just-a -coal-miner's-daughter persona.
But none of her previous comments hit a political nerve like her startling suggestion this week that Congress suspend its elections next year to concentrate on fixing the economy.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/09/29/2430644/nc-gov-perdues-remark-strikes.html#ixzz1ZMvGdXcy

its surely shocked a lot of repubs, could it be because its too close to home???
Its amazing what you find out when you look more into the matter...
that it was more than tongue in cheek or sarcastically will be argued by none but the most ignorant, is not something you can do much about.
Limpo being one of those most rabid..

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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 12:07:48 PM   
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Actually no, the recording has been made available and she sounds dead serious, calls for others to join her



SHE WAS JOKING, USING HYPERBOLE, NO IT WAS SARCASM...

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Her words were obviously said in sarcasm, and disgust at the way things are going. I find it sad that you cannot even make a joke without that pig Limbaugh twisting everything.


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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 12:11:44 PM   
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Her words were obviously said in sarcasm, and disgust at the way things are going. I find it sad that you cannot even make a joke without that pig Limbaugh twisting everything.




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The original site tells that she said that it was sarcasm straight away.
I doubt that is in the OP or anywhere ....
by the sound of it


Ummmm.... have you listen to it? It was delivered in a monotone, poli-speak way without a hint of irony or laughter, she was not making a joke.

Just because her staff spun it as such, doesn't make it true. The entire undoctored ramble is now on sites all over the web so go listen.

OH and this story is several days old...Limbaugh neither broke it or had a hand in breaking the story so I have to wonder he has even been brought up?

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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 12:14:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		LMAO Funny , I could tell she was being sarcastic, and I listened three times
it must be the english ... sarcasm isnt awalys blatant, no wonder most americans dont get it.
Shewont get thru this without shit sticking and maybe she should be more careful but how surpirising that you two , obviously dont get it, altho I did think better of you FDD! waves hello.

LMAO at the uproar this has caused, feeeling picked on chaps?

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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 12:31:55 PM   
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I listened several times.

Sorry I am just not buying the "It was a joke" line. She was answering a question in a rambling manner and got bogged down in quick sand.

I get she was trying to make a point and I will give her the benefit of doubt that her opine was meant to provoke thought and discussion. What she
WAS not doing however, not in any way shape or form, was making a joke.


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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 12:38:07 PM   
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The whole bit is ripe for sarcasm certainly not a serious proposition, satire not quite, almost a parody of what some have come up with from the republican side
cmon, really
one woman says what she said about changing the whole way of political crap and challenge the "rights/constitution/federal laws election laws, etc and all of a sudden theres panic and horror in the air? ya right.
Puhleeeeze
this is more whimmpering by the dumbarses who fear being called out for not doing their jobs properly

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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 12:43:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well, don't worry. The election won't be cancelled becAuse one gov suggested it, sarcastic or not. So don't be scared

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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 12:46:22 PM   
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LMAO Funny , I could tell she was being sarcastic, and I listened three times
it must be the english ... sarcasm isnt awalys blatant, no wonder most americans dont get it.
Shewont get thru this without shit sticking and maybe she should be more careful but how surpirising that you two , obviously dont get it, altho I did think better of you FDD! waves hello.

LMAO at the uproar this has caused, feeeling picked on chaps?


"tell them we won't pick on them... just let them help this country" follows the suspension quote. It must be the english. There's no sarcasm in her voice.

Then again, Bev Purdue is governor of North Carolina, my home state. She's been running on air for a while now. Latest polls indicate that only 29% of Democrats would vote for her again - and that's her own party.

Like I said, hopefully, this is a politician who will quietly disappear soon.


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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 12:47:23 PM   
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Im not scared of the consequence of her cracking unwise...., only of the indignance of people who know better than to see it as more than it was

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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 12:49:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		"tell them we wont pick on them" is more than sarcasm, it is ridicule
so yeah, the point is sarcasm and taking the piss of their poor little scared souls


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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 1:42:57 PM   
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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 1:51:15 PM   
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There is no snark, no inflection, there is not even a understatement curtness to her voice. There is nothing to say she was trying to make a sarcastic point.

This was a public forum with the microphones on and whatever point she was trying to get make was lost as it was poorly conceived and poorly delivered.

She floundered in her answer and come up with something stupid, plain and simple. BTW... and here's the kicker, there is ZERO in Gov. Purdue's rhetorical
record or writings that even hints that she is capable of such witty and sarcastic banter.

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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 2:03:28 PM   
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much like I dont believe that there were only two people in the teaparty audience at the debate that believed that a gay soldier should be booed and have it poo pooed by so many posters here,
or when people cheered and shouted yes at a hypothetical person be allowed to die, or that charity will help people without insurance.
His poor friend that died, had medical bills when he died of 400, 000, the total of the donations came to 30,000.. who is left paying the bill? hismother, and who has helped her since?
NO ONE
so..puhleeeeze dont tellme that dems are shit stirring . one person spoke her mind, sarcastically about changing the whole ellection system and you got your knickers in a knot about it.
I said ridicule, not snark or inflection..... Ill give you my number and you can call me talk to me and then tell me you can tell when Im being sarcastic or even being snarky.
deal?

PS I didnt bring limpdick into it...sorry..he did that himself.

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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 2:03:28 PM   
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Maybe "pig limbaugh" was brought into it to dehumanize those who tolovetolaugh disagrees with politically

Its a very old, tired and worn out tactic. "Those swine" dont deserve a vote, they dont even deserve to breathe...

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

quote:

ORIGINAL: tolovetolaugh

Her words were obviously said in sarcasm, and disgust at the way things are going. I find it sad that you cannot even make a joke without that pig Limbaugh twisting everything.




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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

The original site tells that she said that it was sarcasm straight away.
I doubt that is in the OP or anywhere ....
by the sound of it


Ummmm.... have you listen to it? It was delivered in a monotone, poli-speak way without a hint of irony or laughter, she was not making a joke.

Just because her staff spun it as such, doesn't make it true. The entire undoctored ramble is now on sites all over the web so go listen.

OH and this story is several days old...Limbaugh neither broke it or had a hand in breaking the story so I have to wonder he has even been brought up?


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RE: Dem Governor Calls For Suspending Elections - 9/29/2011 2:39:11 PM   
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Maybe "pig limbaugh" was brought into it to dehumanize those who tolovetolaugh disagrees with politically

Its a very old, tired and worn out tactic. "Those swine" dont deserve a vote, they dont even deserve to breathe...

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ORIGINAL: FatDomDaddy

quote:

ORIGINAL: tolovetolaugh

Her words were obviously said in sarcasm, and disgust at the way things are going. I find it sad that you cannot even make a joke without that pig Limbaugh twisting everything.




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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic

The original site tells that she said that it was sarcasm straight away.
I doubt that is in the OP or anywhere ....
by the sound of it


Ummmm.... have you listen to it? It was delivered in a monotone, poli-speak way without a hint of irony or laughter, she was not making a joke.

Just because her staff spun it as such, doesn't make it true. The entire undoctored ramble is now on sites all over the web so go listen.

OH and this story is several days old...Limbaugh neither broke it or had a hand in breaking the story so I have to wonder he has even been brought up?



From your article,
"But Republicans and critics have pounced, including radio talk show host Rush Limbaugh. He called her "dumb, stupid, bumbling and foolish" on Wednesday."

ETA and no, he does not.



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