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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 4:45:59 PM   
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And if you're that curious about what it is I've been attempting to do about it, I have been visiting a gym and pursuing a rather harsh routine. 5 consecutive running laps, benching of 175 pounds for 70 reps, 300 pushups, and 5 laps of swimming before I leave


Thing is, you also need to eat healthy as well.  I do less than you and I remain slender/toned simply in part to eating what is right.  Lifting up 100+ pounds, running in circles numerous times, and whatever is a good start but it's not like it'll serve any purpose when you go out to eat greasy fast-food stuff.  There's a few types of work-out:  feel good, maintaining, serious.  Feel good is what I believe many in your situation do.  They do a bunch of physical activities and then go home to gorge on food for the rest of the week and ignorantly wonder why they're not seeing results.  Maintaining is what the average person does to simply keep themselves in shape.  Serious is what bodybuilders and people that are really driven to lose weight do.

I've been reading through your posts and I think you actually do want to help yourself but I also see a screen of excuses as to why you can't.  Let me tell you straight up what is going to get you a woman that isn't trailer-trash above anything else will be self-confidence.  This whole, "I'm as negative as Edgar Allan Poe" only works in Hollywood. 

Right now you're a dreamer and not chasing after what it is you want.  A woman is most likely to end up with someone that plans to make a splash as opposed someone that won't even go in. 

We're the same age and I know what I want to do and I certainly know how to get it.  I'd rather fall down a flight of stairs than ask anybody here for help in life.  Right now I can tell you straight up if you were to get a girlfriend you'd come off as manipulative and controlling.  You have no faith in yourself so how can you put faith in someone else?  You openly say you're not attractive, so if she goes out you'll probably automatically assume she's with another guy and then make false accusations upon her return.  I'm not going to lie and say I have a laundry-list of issues that I can relate to in your situation.  I don't.  My biggest worry right now is if I ruined my leather jacket after walking home from classes in the rain.

You're not ready for a relationship because you're not ready to look yourself in the mirror.




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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 4:58:59 PM   
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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 5:00:32 PM   
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Yes.


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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 5:03:03 PM   
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And if you're that curious about what it is I've been attempting to do about it, I have been visiting a gym and pursuing a rather harsh routine. 5 consecutive running laps, benching of 175 pounds for 70 reps, 300 pushups, and 5 laps of swimming before I leave


Thing is, you also need to eat healthy as well.  I do less than you and I remain slender/toned simply in part to eating what is right.  Lifting up 100+ pounds, running in circles numerous times, and whatever is a good start but it's not like it'll serve any purpose when you go out to eat greasy fast-food stuff.  There's a few types of work-out:  feel good, maintaining, serious.  Feel good is what I believe many in your situation do.  They do a bunch of physical activities and then go home to gorge on food for the rest of the week and ignorantly wonder why they're not seeing results.  Maintaining is what the average person does to simply keep themselves in shape.  Serious is what bodybuilders and people that are really driven to lose weight do.

I've been reading through your posts and I think you actually do want to help yourself but I also see a screen of excuses as to why you can't.  Let me tell you straight up what is going to get you a woman that isn't trailer-trash above anything else will be self-confidence.  This whole, "I'm as negative as Edgar Allan Poe" only works in Hollywood. 

Right now you're a dreamer and not chasing after what it is you want.  A woman is most likely to end up with someone that plans to make a splash as opposed someone that won't even go in. 

We're the same age and I know what I want to do and I certainly know how to get it.  I'd rather fall down a flight of stairs than ask anybody here for help in life.  Right now I can tell you straight up if you were to get a girlfriend you'd come off as manipulative and controlling.  You have no faith in yourself so how can you put faith in someone else?  You openly say you're not attractive, so if she goes out you'll probably automatically assume she's with another guy and then make false accusations upon her return.  I'm not going to lie and say I have a laundry-list of issues that I can relate to in your situation.  I don't.  My biggest worry right now is if I ruined my leather jacket after walking home from classes in the rain.

You're not ready for a relationship because you're not ready to look yourself in the mirror.





Hahahah! Man, I absolutely love it when people make all of these assumptions about people just by reading what they wrote once! Outstanding, truly.

Let me tell you folks something. You're reacting to nothing more than a caricature of me. A brief, small look into what's going on, stretched to the limits of your collective imaginations. Fantasize all you like, assume everything, have faith in your illusions, sure. It'll just make you look all the more ridiculous and over the top.

Seriously? Not ready to look myself in the mirror? You should write drama movies, dude. xD

Man, you all should. You could collaborate to make a drama based on the caricature you have all drawn up for yourself about me. In fact, I've got the perfect title. "A question of youth".

Well, anyway, I'm not going to be around to post for a while, so I'll catch you all later! It's been beautiful, really.


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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 5:52:10 PM   
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Seriously? Not ready to look myself in the mirror? You should write drama movies, dude. xD


It'd be a lot more than what you're doing, dude!  xD!


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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 5:57:49 PM   
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Seriously? Not ready to look myself in the mirror? You should write drama movies, dude. xD


It'd be a lot more than what you're doing, dude!  xD!



AND done without whining about how hard it is. If you win an Academy Award can I have your autograph?

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 6:43:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		After reading your posts it sounds like you're a spoiled little boy and then mommy and daddy stopped coddling you and now you're depressed because it's finally dawned on you that you are now an adult and you've gotta provide for yourself. Unfortunately because you were spoiled all your life you now have zero idea how to do that and  you're still expecting the rest of the world to bail you out.

Forget the voiceover things. It's extremely hard to do. I should know. My daughter tried for it when she used to attend anime conventions. She spoke to quite a few of the voice over people who said it's very difficult to break into unless you've got an extremely unique voice.

As for the skin condition holding you back....please....I find that so very funny. I was born with extreme exzema and psoriasis. For the majority of my life I was wrapped like a mummy because I would tear open my skin from scratching at it. Thankfully the last few years it's gone into remission but absolutely anything can make it flare up and there are many days where I'm itching so bad and in so much pain that I'm almost in tears. I do not let that hold me back though. I refuse to let that or anything else in my life kick my ass.

Pull up your bootstraps and do whatever it is you need to do. Don't expect anyone else to help you. But there are a ton of programs out there to help you with dentistry, surgeries, school, medical <which btw, speak to a dermatologist. There are amazing new meds out there for skin conditions now. If it wasn't for the new meds I'd still be wrapped like a mummy>, etc...you just have to make the effort to find them. The internet is a godsend for such things.

Once you do these things and you get some confidence you might find that women will want to actually be with you but as for right now....it's not the fact that you don't have a job or anything else...it's your attitude. Change that and you'll find someone.

Good luck.



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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 6:46:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: agirl
I have read the whole thread. I also, like Lance, would be interested to know what your plans might be after your parents move away as that'll be a bit of a crunch time, no doubt.

My eldest son works for a charity that helps young people get out of situations such as the one you're in, and various others, many, much worse involving addiction and debt.

He knows that being *stuck* in a situation due to circumstances, EVEN if those circumstances look pathetic to others, does not necessarily mean that the youngsters do not want to move forward. A large majority of them haven't had supportive, encouraging parents ( and I don't mean financially). Many of them missed out on vital basic education too.

He, and his co-workers provide the basic steps to shift these young people from debilitating *going no-where*  to a place where they finish up in employment of some kind, renting a small flat with some short term plans in place. Much of the job is basically providing short term emotional and practical support. It's not always easy to shift your life around on your own just because *everyone else* has/can*.

Actually, my son is very good at his job as he spent quite a few years being a bit of a loser himself in his early 20's so he can speak from bitter experience :-)

Not all people that feel *stuck* and appear negative are sat on their arses for the sake of it.

agirl

Really? Aw, man, do you guys have an Indianapolis branch? I can't really travel, but I'd love to see if that would lead anywhere.

LEECH!!!!  Look for similar sdervices in Indy YOURSELF!

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 6:58:45 PM   
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wolvenreign:

2 of my questions / comments have gone unanswered.  Maybe if you could / would answer those, we would ALL see some improvement.

1) What is your plan for the day after your parents move?

2) Have you seen anyone about what looks like clinical depression?  I know CD when I see it.  It's been a life long "buddy" of mine.  When I hear of the "isolation" in your life, well, golly.....

A new one.....

Since you worked with your father how about you follow up on contacts from that quarter?  Different state? Get your ass there NOW.  Nothing holding you to Indy, is there?

ETA:  Your past is your past.  We all have one.  Most posters are NOT rising to the bait of "my past means my present is crap and that means my future is crap, too."

PLEASE drop those quote-within-quote posts and tell us what your FUTURE plans are......

Google should help with recording studios VERY quickly.  Good Lord, man!  SUCK IT UP!

All those posting about their pasts are really trying to show you that even the WORST situations can be resolved by simply doing that: suck it up.  A big breath makes a sigh of relief!  Why?  BEcause you are finally seeing something HAPPEN!

Cure for depression w/o meds or herbals?  Do one little thing, anything.  Just one.


Ah, sorry about that! Quite a few posts to reply to.

Yes, Google SHOULD help with recording studios, and it did, in a way, by letting me know that there aren't any in Indianapolis, and the closest reputable agency is in Chicago (They're called Sound Advice. I'd like to go there and show them my demo. They charge pretty hefty, though. I'll have to see what I can do about that.)

As for a specific plan after my folks move, I haven't had a solid one yet, mostly because my folks haven't decided on a solid date. I suppose if I were to begin thinking of it now, I would say that I know some folks on the East side who owe me a few dozen favors. It probably wouldn't be much of an improvement over the west side, but it's something.

I've never seen anyone about clinical depression. An unrelated doctor's visit tried to diagnose me with it, but I thought it was kind of suspicious. You see, he noticed after using his stethescope that my lungs showed signs of me taking too many deep breaths. So he immediately tried to write me up for depression and put me on pills. That sort of thing can be a huge racket for doctors, and I wasn't about to have him prescribe me pills that might do anything just for the sake of selling them. This was a while back, though.

Answer  # 1 is about how you "might" get favors / jobs.  WHERE are you going to SLEEP?
Answer  # 2 is Nope, I don't want to get pills for what I was diagnosised having.  OKAY, fine. (But we're putting "mild paranoia" into yuor case file, you stoopid SOB.)  Get St. John's Wort in herbal / supplements section of grocery store and TAKE them - sometimes takes as much as three weeks to get to proper level.  Then MAINTAIN that level!
Answer  # 3 - which was a question about using your skills and contacts ......  seems to have gone missing. 

Again, and again, you have an answer - almost always.... nope.  You always, always have an answer from your past.  Look to the future. Did I mention "I'm done"?  Guess I didn't, but I am.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 7:39:03 PM   
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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 10:09:59 PM   
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I'm submissive, and I'd pound you to your last breath.

You discount the struggles we've all dealt with, D or s, and for some reason they're too great for you because you have parents on their way to Hawaii, or your teeth are crooked, or whatever is next.

I've met, in person, some world class losers - their jive pales in comparison.

I' change my previous thought - you are a world class chain yanker.

I feel sorry for any sub that might fall to your prey, but I can not imagine the most naive, submissive believing a word of your crap.

You are disgusting to our genre.


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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 10:28:18 PM   
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Seriously... we're still here?

I'm submissive, and I'd pound you to your last breath.

You discount the struggles we've all dealt with, D or s, and for some reason they're too great for you because you have parents on their way to Hawaii, or your teeth are crooked, or whatever is next.

I've met, in person, some world class losers - their jive pales in comparison.

I' change my previous thought - you are a world class chain yanker.

I feel sorry for any sub that might fall to your prey, but I can not imagine the most naive, submissive believing a word of your crap.

You are disgusting to our genre.




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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 12:00:12 AM   
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I think you should have a strong talk with your parents,OP. They have an obligation to give you a good start in life and they have failed.

They don't have an obligation to give you a good start in life. It would be nice, but there's no obligation. We're also lacking on all the background in this particular situation, besides the fact that voice work is right up there with acting in terms of practicality of employment.

Instead of racking up loans, go to the community colleges to complete pre-major work or get a practical certificate. Avoid the for-profit guys at all costs!


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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 1:02:06 AM   
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legacy from mom will likely be les than that.


so what? They may not be perfect parents, but I quite resent the implication that they are somehow less than because they didnt send me to college.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 1:09:27 AM   
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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 5:33:06 AM   
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Status: offline 		My dad didn't leave a monetary legacy for me, and I'm still glad he was my dad. (I am glad that grandma and grandpa left me something but even if they hadn't, they've given me far more than any inheiritance could.)

Not everyone believes that a parent is obligated to send their children through college. It's nice if you can, but not necessary, imo.

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Yes they do. If you don't leave a legacy for your children, what the fuck good are you?
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I think you should have a strong talk with your parents,OP. They have an obligation to give you a good start in life and they have failed.

They don't have an obligation to give you a good start in life. It would be nice, but there's no obligation. We're also lacking on all the background in this particular situation, besides the fact that voice work is right up there with acting in terms of practicality of employment.

Instead of racking up loans, go to the community colleges to complete pre-major work or get a practical certificate. Avoid the for-profit guys at all costs!



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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 5:39:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		OP, my suggestion to you is to take one thing at a time and really work on it. Start with the job. Then I'd work on the dental because that's very important. Just take things ONE STEP AT A TIME.

I feel that you're overwhelmed and don't know where to begin. Begin with the job. Apply for 15 per day. Ten over the internet and five in person. When you get an interview, (even if it's for McDonald's) write a thank you note to the person who interviewed you and send it in the mail. (not email.) Five days later, call back to "check up and see if you're still trying to fill the position"  Let them know how interested you are. You will stand head and shoulders above other applicants.

Since you're interested in voice-over work I'd also suggest getting involved in community theatre. Even if you can't be an actor at first, be there, help with making sets, running lights or taking tickets. It's where many actors began, and you'll make great contacts.

Good luck!

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 5:45:21 AM   
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Not everyone believes that a parent is obligated to send their children through college. It's nice if you can, but not necessary, imo.


Not to mention that there HAS to be a time when the parents stop being obligated to their children and the children start taking responsibility for their own lives. IMO he has passed that time.

It's nice if the parents can afford to send their kids to college but many can't. That's why God invented student loans and bursaries...and part/full time jobs to fill in the rest of the money needed to live away from home or at least pay part of their own expenses.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 6:12:05 AM   
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Hey all.

Well, I've been searching for a play partner/submissive for a couple of years now.
I don't really expect much

I dont have a job because I don't really expect much
I will live with oral pain my whole life because I don't really expect much
I am overweight because I don't really expect much
My profile is odd, but I wrote that years ago, and I didn't really expect much
I can't go to college because I don't really expect much
I have no health insurance I don't really expect much
I am planning my life but, I don't really expect much,
I'll post again later if I make any progress, but I don't really expect much,

Some people prefer problems they can not solve over solutions they just don’t like.
This is what the majority of your posts are saying. No matter your efforts to
improve yourself, you seem to be complacent with the door closing in your face.
It would be very selfish of you to try and involve someone else in your life,
when you dont seem to have the motivation to improve it.


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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 10/1/2011 6:20:58 AM   
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Not everyone believes that a parent is obligated to send their children through college. It's nice if you can, but not necessary, imo.


Not to mention that there HAS to be a time when the parents stop being obligated to their children and the children start taking responsibility for their own lives. IMO he has passed that time.

It's nice if the parents can afford to send their kids to college but many can't. That's why God invented student loans and bursaries...and part/full time jobs to fill in the rest of the money needed to live away from home or at least pay part of their own expenses.


Uhm...I'm not so sure it's God who invented student loans... #justsaying

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