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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 12:17:52 PM   
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Dude... you never met a real parent apparently. We don't take whiny ass kids doing nothing for themselves and coddle them or fall for their little stories.

Our job is to teach you how to work life and it is work... apparently you have been allowed to be a pretty princess in your room thinking of fantasies far too long.



Two things here. One, if you're not going to believe the very real facts about my situation, then you have no business talking about "falling for their little stories". I have told you all nothing but the pure, hard truth.

Two, if you are not in a position to actually help me, don't try to tell me what it is or isn't "your job" to do. All I'm saying is, if you're willing to talk smack, put up or shut up. Dead serious.


Okay sweetheart, you got it. Do you know the limitations I have? I worked, I raised a family and I worked my ass off doing things I never wish to do again... but I would if I had to.  I have a genetic illness that kicks my ass, I have a spine that was curved from injury, surgery and now have bone on bone and I can't afford surgery on it again or for my teeth, I have a number of other illnesses... but... I did work the last three years, care for a brain damaged son, am writing as fast as I can to try to save my ass because I cannot work outside the home and cannot learn new things because of my own brain damage from strokes. I don't live off parents, children or the tax payers. I am scrambling hard to find a new income since losing my private income because he owed the government and they take what he has left before I get to. I am not trying to fix my little problem with a tweaking clit that wants attention... I am working on saving my ass.

Your turn.



I didn't ask for the facts of your life and how you got through it. I asked if you could actually help me find a job in this area. If you can't, then you don't really have any business telling me the facts of my life and how you wouldn't tolerate it. And next we have...



Confirmation that you want a hand out.



A handout? I just asked if you had any ties to anyone in Indy who might be hiring, since that would actually help me. And what's with bolding the "And next we have..."? That was to link to my next post.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 12:18:23 PM   
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See, this is the general thread of logic that seems to be prevalent in most "you're just whining" posts. Stating sad facts about life = whining? Hardly. This is why I say that people automatically assume you're whining if you mention anything less than the utmost shiniest, positive, entertaining thing you can think of on the forums.

Seriously folks, when I say something bad about my situation? It's because it's real and not because I need someone to complain to. Frankly, though, if anyone says I'm whining after this, they had better come packing with a reason as to why it's whining and why I am not just stating truth. Which you'll have a hard time proving, since I am the number one authority on my intentions.



It sounds like whining because your reasons for not being able to achieve your goals are external to your innermost self. It stops being whining when you accept the ability to make changes within yourself without blaming life for your lot in it.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 12:19:42 PM   
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Stating sad facts about life...



The "sad facts" are that you're a WHINER and LAZY.  Got it, cupcake?!!

ETA:  Pssst... so you know, people can view your posts from your profile page, so with regard to your OP concerning whether or not you should "stop searching", you've pretty much GUARANTEED that ANY girl with a brain that reviews this thread will NEVER get within 10 feet of you.  Lucky you... you've just manifested the answer to your question!!!



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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 12:19:54 PM   
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I had recently explored the low-cost dental option. Thing is, this is oral surgery... They said they wouldn't do it
 
I am actually very capable, physically, except for a bum leg with an out-of-place tendon
 
As far as why I am overweight, you can thank a childhood of isolation with no motivation to do anything physical
 
there might be a way for you all to help me out... let me know if you know any voice acting studios
 
I have intense all-season allergies and a skin problem which makes it incredibly difficult to do anything for five seconds without scratching myself somewhere
 
I've hit my head on pavement too many times (slipping on ice and the like), and now I have a really bad short term memory



There... that about sums up yet ANOTHER big whine from you. 

Grow the hell up, already. Go wait tables, wash dishes, sweep floors, whatever... you'll get the exercise you need, and BONUS, some cash to boot for school and dental work. 

But you won't do that, will you?!!  No... because you're too fucking lazy and want someone else to keep wiping your ass for you -- just like you're doing here by asking people to help you locate voice-over studios BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO FUCKING LAZY TO DO YOUR OWN DAMN RESEARCH.

Yeah, real shocker that any girl with a brain wouldn't want a thing to do with you.  You're about as pathetic as pethetic gets!  Your parents should have booted you at 18... they've obviously learned their lesson and are likely hoping that booting your ass at 22, and forcing you to actually grow up and take some personal responsibility might actually save you from a life of endless whining and excuses.  From what I've read here, I doubt it.  




See, this is the general thread of logic that seems to be prevalent in most "you're just whining" posts. Stating sad facts about life = whining? Hardly. This is why I say that people automatically assume you're whining if you mention anything less than the utmost shiniest, positive, entertaining thing you can think of on the forums.

Seriously folks, when I say something bad about my situation? It's because it's real and not because I need someone to complain to. Frankly, though, if anyone says I'm whining after this, they had better come packing with a reason as to why it's whining and why I am not just stating truth. Which you'll have a hard time proving, since I am the number one authority on my intentions.



The reason people see you as whining is that whenever a suggestion is put forward, your immediate reaction is to say why it won't work, rather than examining how it might.

Look dude, shit happens. We all have issues, handicaps, things that hold us back.
So what?
Life ain't easy. Life is full of disappointments and hurts.
Life is pain. Life is obstacles. Life is overcoming those and transcending. Most of all, life is about perseverance and the minor art of survival.

Get off the cross. We need the wood.




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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 12:22:21 PM   
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Fast reply...

Dude, I wouldn't recommend you to anyone I know, unless it was a psych doc.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 12:24:24 PM   
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You poor misguided thing. I know someone in radio in Indy who could probably help but I would not call him on a bet for you. Why? B/c you are a whiny lazy kid with a sense of entitlement not in the least commensurate with your abilities, motivation, and drive.

If you posted that you had been working as a dish washer for the last 3 years, were on your own, and not looking to your parents or the government for a handout, I might very likely feel differently about making that call.

Are you getting it yet, OP?




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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 12:24:40 PM   
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See, this is the general thread of logic that seems to be prevalent in most "you're just whining" posts. Stating sad facts about life = whining? Hardly. This is why I say that people automatically assume you're whining if you mention anything less than the utmost shiniest, positive, entertaining thing you can think of on the forums.

Seriously folks, when I say something bad about my situation? It's because it's real and not because I need someone to complain to. Frankly, though, if anyone says I'm whining after this, they had better come packing with a reason as to why it's whining and why I am not just stating truth. Which you'll have a hard time proving, since I am the number one authority on my intentions.



It sounds like whining because your reasons for not being able to achieve your goals are external to your innermost self. It stops being whining when you accept the ability to make changes within yourself without blaming life for your lot in it.



To be honest, I had thought that it was assumed that I had accepted the ability to make changes within myself. I had thought it was assumed that I wanted to get to the goal, and do everything I can to get there. I was merely explaining my obstacles. Maybe I just have a different mode of communication to others, lol.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 12:32:41 PM   
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You poor misguided thing. I know someone in radio in Indy who could probably help but I would not call him on a bet for you. Why? B/c you are a whiny lazy kid with a sense of entitlement not in the least commensurate with your abilities, motivation, and drive.

If you posted that you had been working as a dish washer for the last 3 years, were on your own, and not looking to your parents or the government for a handout, I might very likely feel differently about making that call.

Are you getting it yet, OP?





It's a shame when people skim posts. They miss out on important facts. Like the fact that I am trying and not just sitting on this.

Or mayhap I had forgotten to mention that I worked through my high school years as a basement finishing contractor to help my Dad get by until he got a (much improved) job, and only managed to get a diploma because I'm a hardcore student. Look, if you all want to know my entire story, just ask. The way I'm presenting it now makes it look like a counter to every argument thrown at me, and I know that makes me look bad. I an tell you the whole thing, start to finish.

Hell, I'm even willing to bring up the official records to prove it. There's documentation and all of that.

Chatte, if you're going to judge me based on what little you know, take the time to know the whole thing. If you want, we can even meet in person. I try to go to sloshes and the like, and I am very willing to see you face to face, especially if you know someone in radio. This might just be wonderful news!

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 12:35:16 PM   
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Stating sad facts about life...



The "sad facts" are that you're a WHINER and LAZY.  Got it, cupcake?!!

ETA:  Pssst... so you know, people can view your posts from your profile page, so with regard to your OP concerning whether or not you should "stop searching", you've pretty much GUARANTEED that ANY girl with a brain that reviews this thread will NEVER get within 10 feet of you.  Lucky you... you've just manifested the answer to your question!!!




Already gave up on it for the time being, brah. Otherwise, you're just skimming through posts and posting for the sake of being inflammatory. A troll, in other words. Thanks for helping me prove my point about whining not equaling hard facts, though. Don't expect my gratitude to extend to replying to you any more after this, though.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 12:37:14 PM   
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I had recently explored the low-cost dental option. Thing is, this is oral surgery... They said they wouldn't do it
 
I am actually very capable, physically, except for a bum leg with an out-of-place tendon
 
As far as why I am overweight, you can thank a childhood of isolation with no motivation to do anything physical
 
there might be a way for you all to help me out... let me know if you know any voice acting studios
 
I have intense all-season allergies and a skin problem which makes it incredibly difficult to do anything for five seconds without scratching myself somewhere
 
I've hit my head on pavement too many times (slipping on ice and the like), and now I have a really bad short term memory



There... that about sums up yet ANOTHER big whine from you. 

Grow the hell up, already. Go wait tables, wash dishes, sweep floors, whatever... you'll get the exercise you need, and BONUS, some cash to boot for school and dental work. 

But you won't do that, will you?!!  No... because you're too fucking lazy and want someone else to keep wiping your ass for you -- just like you're doing here by asking people to help you locate voice-over studios BECAUSE YOU'RE TOO FUCKING LAZY TO DO YOUR OWN DAMN RESEARCH.

Yeah, real shocker that any girl with a brain wouldn't want a thing to do with you.  You're about as pathetic as pethetic gets!  Your parents should have booted you at 18... they've obviously learned their lesson and are likely hoping that booting your ass at 22, and forcing you to actually grow up and take some personal responsibility might actually save you from a life of endless whining and excuses.  From what I've read here, I doubt it.  




See, this is the general thread of logic that seems to be prevalent in most "you're just whining" posts. Stating sad facts about life = whining? Hardly. This is why I say that people automatically assume you're whining if you mention anything less than the utmost shiniest, positive, entertaining thing you can think of on the forums.

Seriously folks, when I say something bad about my situation? It's because it's real and not because I need someone to complain to. Frankly, though, if anyone says I'm whining after this, they had better come packing with a reason as to why it's whining and why I am not just stating truth. Which you'll have a hard time proving, since I am the number one authority on my intentions.



The reason people see you as whining is that whenever a suggestion is put forward, your immediate reaction is to say why it won't work, rather than examining how it might.

Look dude, shit happens. We all have issues, handicaps, things that hold us back.
So what?
Life ain't easy. Life is full of disappointments and hurts.
Life is pain. Life is obstacles. Life is overcoming those and transcending. Most of all, life is about perseverance and the minor art of survival.

Get off the cross. We need the wood.





Like I said earlier, I'm merely stating what obstacles are in my way. I do want to get to the goal. Maybe I'll start a blog on here soon about how it's going and the like.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 12:53:07 PM   
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wolvenreign:

2 of my questions / comments have gone unanswered.  Maybe if you could / would answer those, we would ALL see some improvement.

1) What is your plan for the day after your parents move?

2) Have you seen anyone about what looks like clinical depression?  I know CD when I see it.  It's been a life long "buddy" of mine.  When I hear of the "isolation" in your life, well, golly.....

A new one.....

Since you worked with your father how about you follow up on contacts from that quarter?  Different state? Get your ass there NOW.  Nothing holding you to Indy, is there?

ETA:  Your past is your past.  We all have one.  Most posters are NOT rising to the bait of "my past means my present is crap and that means my future is crap, too."

PLEASE drop those quote-within-quote posts and tell us what your FUTURE plans are......

Google should help with recording studios VERY quickly.  Good Lord, man!  SUCK IT UP!

All those posting about their pasts are really trying to show you that even the WORST situations can be resolved by simply doing that: suck it up.  A big breath makes a sigh of relief!  Why?  BEcause you are finally seeing something HAPPEN!

Cure for depression w/o meds or herbals?  Do one little thing, anything.  Just one.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 12:57:06 PM   
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It's a shame when people skim posts. They miss out on important facts. Like the fact that I am trying and not just sitting on this.

Or mayhap I had forgotten to mention that I worked through my high school years as a basement finishing contractor to help my Dad get by until he got a (much improved) job, and only managed to get a diploma because I'm a hardcore student. Look, if you all want to know my entire story, just ask. The way I'm presenting it now makes it look like a counter to every argument thrown at me, and I know that makes me look bad. I an tell you the whole thing, start to finish.

Hell, I'm even willing to bring up the official records to prove it. There's documentation and all of that.

Chatte, if you're going to judge me based on what little you know, take the time to know the whole thing. If you want, we can even meet in person. I try to go to sloshes and the like, and I am very willing to see you face to face, especially if you know someone in radio. This might just be wonderful news!


You are working on your issues? How? By seeking validation from a message board?

What did you do, today, to get a job? Improve your prospects for a job? Improve your weight issue? Improve your health issues?

You are still here whining when, if you were truly motivated, you would have put in your first 8 hour shift as a dishwasher.

You want to know how *I* got through school? I worked 3 jobs: a work study job, a 5 am doughnut counter job, and a weekend waitress gig. In other words, I worked my ass off.

After giving up a very successful career to raise my children, I got divorced. Guess what I did? I worked two jobs, a regular 9-5 during the day and a banquet bartending job that meant I was on my feet for 6-8 hours after working my day job. I was 45 and had a bad back.

I didn't whine, and I didn't expect a free ride from anyone.

You would be so lucky as to meet me Sparky. If one iota of my motivation rubbed off on you, your entire life would change.




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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 1:10:54 PM   
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I had FIVE part-time jobs to get thru college.  Made it with small amounts from my Mom and a pretty hefty student loan.  My Dad died two months before I turned 21, so no Soc.Sec. benefits to me, although my younger sisters did receive some.

And then a full-time one and a part-time one to get my Masters while I paid off the loan.

Now? Brain damage from a TBI (traumatic brain injury.)  Memory issues out-the-ass, and worst of all, the TBI "kicked off" a genetic disposition to a totally rare dementia - NOT Alzheimers' - Lucky me!  So rare that no one's doing any research.  Oh, forgot to mention it's degenerative. And the TBI also kicked off some other mental issues that I'd rather not mention here.  SSDI?  I'm not sick "enough."

I was finally able to find a full-time job after looking for 2-1/2 YEARS ! ! ! Debt is huge, but guess what? First paycheck will start to whittle that down. <no start date yet - damn 'em, but it does require a background check>

Like ChatteParfaitt - I'd love to meet you, Sparky and whoop you up-side the head...... but maybe that'd give you a TBI.
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Now, the part that should AMAZE you - I have absolutly NO problems finding BDSM players.  A slave - who contacted me thru CM - was going to move here until his family situation (in Germany) changed so that he couldn't.  Long story.  You want the details, ask me through the "other side."  Oh, wait.... that's your line.





<edited to remove redudancies.  Told you I had memory issues.>

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 1:14:29 PM   
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My parents busted their asses so I could go to college. I paid for grad school myself both times by OMG WORKING! Did a lot of temp jobs, everything from answering phones to moving boxes to data entry.

We all have our stuff to overcome and work around.

Should you stop searching for a SUB? HELL YES! The very idea of someone in your life situation dominating anyone? Please. Go out and play, get some sex, whatever, but don't even THINK of trying to guide someone else.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 1:17:56 PM   
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Should you stop searching for a SUB? HELL YES! The very idea of someone in your life situation dominating anyone? Please. Go out and play, get some sex, whatever, but don't even THINK of trying to guide someone else.

What a GREAT idea I just had! ! ! ! Maybe we could form a consortium of D-types to.... nah, never mind.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 1:19:08 PM   
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Oh no, Lance. One of my Fetl pals tried to be good to one of the wannabes there. Waste of effort.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 1:21:24 PM   
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I have read the whole thread. I also, like Lance, would be interested to know what your plans might be after your parents move away as that'll be a bit of a crunch time, no doubt.

My eldest son works for a charity that helps young people get out of situations such as the one you're in, and various others, many, much worse involving addiction and debt.

He knows that being *stuck* in a situation due to circumstances, EVEN if those circumstances look pathetic to others, does not necessarily mean that the youngsters do not want to move forward. A large majority of them haven't had supportive, encouraging parents ( and I don't mean financially). Many of them missed out on vital basic education too.

He, and his co-workers provide the basic steps to shift these young people from debilitating *going no-where*  to a place where they finish up in employment of some kind, renting a small flat with some short term plans in place. Much of the job is basically providing short term emotional and practical support. It's not always easy to shift your life around on your own just because *everyone else* has/can*.

Actually, my son is very good at his job as he spent quite a few years being a bit of a loser himself in his early 20's so he can speak from bitter experience :-)

Not all people that feel *stuck* and appear negative are sat on their arses for the sake of it.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 1:24:01 PM   
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There's always ways to make money, hell technically I am 'unemployed' right now, but I still make ends meet. I spend time taking care of an elderly family member, in turn I get a little financial help for the hours I put in. I use software to make virtual content online and sell it in applicable places, I babysit, I'm even thinking of volunteering to do a test for a local university who will pay me for the time I spend doing it with gift certificates. There's loads of ways to get by even without a formal paycheque, just get outside the box and find them.

The total sum of the people on this thread are not crazy. How you run your life is your business, your formal question was, 'should I stop looking?' The answer is a resounding yes. That should be the end of the thread, if you need help with general life problems the off-topic forum might be the place for you. Last I checked this was a BDSM general forum not a 'how can I make my life not suck' forum.

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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 1:26:24 PM   
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wolvenreign:

2 of my questions / comments have gone unanswered.  Maybe if you could / would answer those, we would ALL see some improvement.

1) What is your plan for the day after your parents move?

2) Have you seen anyone about what looks like clinical depression?  I know CD when I see it.  It's been a life long "buddy" of mine.  When I hear of the "isolation" in your life, well, golly.....

A new one.....

Since you worked with your father how about you follow up on contacts from that quarter?  Different state? Get your ass there NOW.  Nothing holding you to Indy, is there?

ETA:  Your past is your past.  We all have one.  Most posters are NOT rising to the bait of "my past means my present is crap and that means my future is crap, too."

PLEASE drop those quote-within-quote posts and tell us what your FUTURE plans are......

Google should help with recording studios VERY quickly.  Good Lord, man!  SUCK IT UP!

All those posting about their pasts are really trying to show you that even the WORST situations can be resolved by simply doing that: suck it up.  A big breath makes a sigh of relief!  Why?  BEcause you are finally seeing something HAPPEN!

Cure for depression w/o meds or herbals?  Do one little thing, anything.  Just one.


Ah, sorry about that! Quite a few posts to reply to.

Yes, Google SHOULD help with recording studios, and it did, in a way, by letting me know that there aren't any in Indianapolis, and the closest reputable agency is in Chicago (They're called Sound Advice. I'd like to go there and show them my demo. They charge pretty hefty, though. I'll have to see what I can do about that.)

As for a specific plan after my folks move, I haven't had a solid one yet, mostly because my folks haven't decided on a solid date. I suppose if I were to begin thinking of it now, I would say that I know some folks on the East side who owe me a few dozen favors. It probably wouldn't be much of an improvement over the west side, but it's something.

I've never seen anyone about clinical depression. An unrelated doctor's visit tried to diagnose me with it, but I thought it was kind of suspicious. You see, he noticed after using his stethescope that my lungs showed signs of me taking too many deep breaths. So he immediately tried to write me up for depression and put me on pills. That sort of thing can be a huge racket for doctors, and I wasn't about to have him prescribe me pills that might do anything just for the sake of selling them. This was a while back, though.


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RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. - 9/30/2011 1:28:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: agirl

I have read the whole thread. I also, like Lance, would be interested to know what your plans might be after your parents move away as that'll be a bit of a crunch time, no doubt.

My eldest son works for a charity that helps young people get out of situations such as the one you're in, and various others, many, much worse involving addiction and debt.

He knows that being *stuck* in a situation due to circumstances, EVEN if those circumstances look pathetic to others, does not necessarily mean that the youngsters do not want to move forward. A large majority of them haven't had supportive, encouraging parents ( and I don't mean financially). Many of them missed out on vital basic education too.

He, and his co-workers provide the basic steps to shift these young people from debilitating *going no-where*  to a place where they finish up in employment of some kind, renting a small flat with some short term plans in place. Much of the job is basically providing short term emotional and practical support. It's not always easy to shift your life around on your own just because *everyone else* has/can*.

Actually, my son is very good at his job as he spent quite a few years being a bit of a loser himself in his early 20's so he can speak from bitter experience :-)

Not all people that feel *stuck* and appear negative are sat on their arses for the sake of it.

agirl





Really? Aw, man, do you guys have an Indianapolis branch? I can't really travel, but I'd love to see if that would lead anywhere.

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