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Kaliko -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 6:31:35 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Yes they do. If you don't leave a legacy for your children, what the fuck good are you?[:o]




Wow. I like to think I'm full of good, thanks. It will be lovely if I can help to pay for college, but I would like to think my worth as a parent isn't dependent on my pocketbook. More important, I would be instilling in her the ability and desire to search for resources to help her accomplish her goals, college or otherwise.




sirsholly -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 6:58:33 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

God damn! This brings back some years with teenagers and mine weren't even close to this and its irritating.

Young man... get off your ass and pull out a lawn mower and go visit some of the elderly people around you and start picking up a few bucks mowing some lawns of people that can't afford lawn care, but can afford a few bucks for your help. Get active physically and stop thinking like a teenager.

Who has been paying for your gym visits? Screw that, get out there and start doing some labor. Work for free to prove you will work... then someone might see a hard worker and good spirit and give you more work.

You want help getting the type of work you want? Good lord! I would head you to the quickest McDonalds or volunteer center... to show you how to work. Your work ethics suck. Your attitude sucks. You make excuses and I wonder if your parents have made excuses for you as well. Still you can overcome if you wish to and stop looking for the job of choice and a hand out.

No wonder your parents want to move to Hawaii! They know they fucked up and can't face the music anymore because you simply will not do for yourself. I wouldn't be running... I'd be putting you out on the street, while I was still in town to catch your ass if you really fell... but that food, clothing and housing would dry up until you got your ass out there and took any kind of job.

Another kid... man... that really needs a dominant putting him through the paces... if one could be found to take this much shit on.

I totally agree with Lockit [image]http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/booyahsmiley.gif[/image]

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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse
This is as far as I can stand to read. You are coming across like a weak, whiny, sniveling little immature bint! Go get a fucking job, TWO jobs! I don't care what they are, what kind of un-cool work they ask you to do but fucking grow the fuck up! Take responsibility for yourself instead of whining "oh pooooooooooorrrrrrr meeeeeeeee.......mommy and daddy won't take care of poooooorrr wittlllllllllle meeeeeeeee" Fucking hell what you are writing is disgusting and pathetic. Be very VERY glad you are not MY son! Very glad.

You cannot take care of yourself. Do not expect any submissive/slave worth a nickle to want to hand over control to you.

Get your shit together boy.

And with LaT [image]http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/yes.gif[/image]




LaTigresse -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 7:02:19 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Yes they do. If you don't leave a legacy for your children, what the fuck good are you?[:o]
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ORIGINAL: outhere69


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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet
I think you should have a strong talk with your parents,OP. They have an obligation to give you a good start in life and they have failed.

They don't have an obligation to give you a good start in life. It would be nice, but there's no obligation. We're also lacking on all the background in this particular situation, besides the fact that voice work is right up there with acting in terms of practicality of employment.

Instead of racking up loans, go to the community colleges to complete pre-major work or get a practical certificate. Avoid the for-profit guys at all costs!



Oh just FUCK THAT SHIT!!!!!

My legacy to MY kids......learning how to fucking be adults and take 100% responsibility for themselves. Being a great grandmother to their children. Teaching them how to be the fantastic parents they are. Knowing how to love.

And most of all...........them knowing that there is ALWAYS one other person in this universe that loves them totally no matter what.




AdorkableAiley -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 7:07:26 AM)

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ORIGINAL: xxblushesxx

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth

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Not everyone believes that a parent is obligated to send their children through college. It's nice if you can, but not necessary, imo.


Not to mention that there HAS to be a time when the parents stop being obligated to their children and the children start taking responsibility for their own lives. IMO he has passed that time.

It's nice if the parents can afford to send their kids to college but many can't. That's why God invented student loans and bursaries...and part/full time jobs to fill in the rest of the money needed to live away from home or at least pay part of their own expenses.


Uhm...I'm not so sure it's God who invented student loans...[:-][8|] #justsaying


No, no I can assure they absolutely came from the opposite direction!

Doh!![sm=ofcourse.gif] student laons... sigh...


Ailey




sirsholly -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 7:10:24 AM)

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ORIGINAL: wolvenreign
And next we have...



Holly.

I am a submissive and wouldn't have given you a second glance. One cannot be a Dom until one is a man.




sirsholly -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 7:13:52 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet
I have a hard time faulting a young man who is trying hard to find a job (which I assume you are)and can't find one.

Three years. He has ONLY been "trying hard" for three years? Yep...can't fault the poor thing for being unemployed...even though he said there is a McDonalds on every corner. Poor baby.

shame, lemmetellya




lizi -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 7:15:22 AM)

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ORIGINAL: poise


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ORIGINAL: wolvenreign

Hey all.

Well, I've been searching for a play partner/submissive for a couple of years now.
I don't really expect much

I dont have a job because I don't really expect much
I will live with oral pain my whole life because I don't really expect much
I am overweight because I don't really expect much
My profile is odd, but I wrote that years ago, and I didn't really expect much
I can't go to college because I don't really expect much
I have no health insurance I don't really expect much
I am planning my life but, I don't really expect much,
I'll post again later if I make any progress, but I don't really expect much,

Some people prefer problems they can not solve over solutions they just don’t like.
This is what the majority of your posts are saying. No matter your efforts to
improve yourself, you seem to be complacent with the door closing in your face.
It would be very selfish of you to try and involve someone else in your life,
when you dont seem to have the motivation to improve it.



This is very true Poise, and when I read it I was reminded of some people that I know who resemble it. You wouldn't want to have their lives unfortunately. Also, honestly, if you knew your future included some kind of irreversible painful condition wouldn't you be trying anything at all to find an answer to deal with that instead of simply accepting it - which is what the OP has seemed to do. There have been all kinds of stories here about courage and perserverance and problem solving, really cool stories, but the OP in the end wasn't invested in changing things at all and I doubt that he'll be back. This didn't go the way he expected. Maybe someone else will benefit, I hope so.




sirsholly -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 7:25:31 AM)

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sirsholly -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 7:27:25 AM)

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See, it's real nice that you can share stories about your own hardships, but as far as I can see? You did solve your problems. It's cool to hear parables about how things were in the old days, but I'm facing problems NOW.

Either you are dumber n' hell, or...........*sigh*


When LaT, Lockit, myself ect solved our problems they were issues we were facing at the time. We had our "NOW" and stepped up to the plate, worked our asses off to succeed and developed the character we now have to recognize a spoiled whiny brat when we see one.






sirsholly -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 7:38:35 AM)

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As for a specific plan after my folks move, I haven't had a solid one yet, mostly because my folks haven't decided on a solid date. I suppose if I were to begin thinking of it now, I would say that I know some folks on the East side who owe me a few dozen favors. It probably wouldn't be much of an improvement over the west side, but it's something.
:::::head meets desk:::::




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 7:48:21 AM)


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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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As for a specific plan after my folks move, I haven't had a solid one yet, mostly because my folks haven't decided on a solid date. I suppose if I were to begin thinking of it now, I would say that I know some folks on the East side who owe me a few dozen favors. It probably wouldn't be much of an improvement over the west side, but it's something.
:::::head meets desk:::::


....resulting in a head injury requiring a trip to the ER.




sirsholly -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 7:58:04 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

it is an unbearable burden to start out life with a 100k of student loans.

But it is acceptable for his parents to face the end of their lives with the same debt?

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Sounds like OP's parents can afford it, if they are moving to Hawaii. Or, they can go in debt sending him to school.





sirsholly -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 7:59:07 AM)

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ORIGINAL: zephyroftheNorth


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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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As for a specific plan after my folks move, I haven't had a solid one yet, mostly because my folks haven't decided on a solid date. I suppose if I were to begin thinking of it now, I would say that I know some folks on the East side who owe me a few dozen favors. It probably wouldn't be much of an improvement over the west side, but it's something.
:::::head meets desk:::::


....resulting in a head injury requiring a trip to the ER.

smartass!![:D]




sirsholly -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 8:07:20 AM)

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I still think parents should send their kids to college. It should be their highest priority.
damnit...

i thought my highest priority was raising him to have ethics, honesty, integrity, dignity, character....

damnit...

been doing it all wrong.....

damnit....





zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 8:07:47 AM)

You're only saying that because you know it's true. Love your breakable ass anyway. [sm=hearts.gif]




sirsholly -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 8:09:14 AM)

Loves ya right the hell back!!! [image]http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/budhug.gif[/image]




zephyroftheNorth -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 8:09:57 AM)


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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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I still think parents should send their kids to college. It should be their highest priority.
damnit...

i thought my highest priority was raising him to have ethics, honesty, integrity, dignity, character....

damnit...

been doing it all wrong.....

damnit....




Yeah clearly LO is being abused. You and Jim should be reported to the authorities...who will no doubt commend you on doing such a great job.




Iamsemisweet -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 9:13:32 AM)

His parents should have been saving the money for him to go to college. They had 18 years. As for not finding a job after looking for 3 years, yep that happens. You've heard that there are people who have been unemployed since 2008, right? The 99 weekers? Only now, they are more like 150 weekers, since there unemployment benefit extension is being considered again. Are they all just slackers?
That his parents are going to walk away from the OP is obvious, regardless of what I think. This is just unimaginable to me, but whatever. So let's say he does get a job at McDonalds. Not sure what minimum wage is, but let's say 10 bucks an hour, net after taxes 8. Tuition at IU ( go Hoosiers!) is 10k per year, in state when you include all the fees and and everything. Let's say books, rent, food, whatever is another $1200 per month, for 9 months. That's about 21k per year, or 84k for 4 years, assuming no tuition increases. Fat chance, but we will assume that. He would have to work at McDonalds 8400 hours to pay for school, and save every dime he earned. The fact is, college is pretty unattainable for someone in OPs position. So, his parents have managed to raise someone who will probably struggle financially for the rest of his life, instead of thinking ahead when he was born and joining one of the college savings plan most states have. They must be so proud of the job they did as parents.
The greatest thing my parents ever did for me was send me to college. I don't know what my life would be like if they hadn't. Same with my ex husband's wonderful parents for him. I paid for my law degree, but they gave me a great start by paying for my undergrad. Consequently, we never struggled financially, and did the same thing for our kids. So, my parents gift to me has kept on giving to their grandkids. That's a legacy.
I am afraid the baby boomers have managed to raise a generation of kids who will be worse off than their parents. I think that is sad.
Op, lose weight, try to get in the military. Lie if you have to. That is probably your best hope for a better life. alternatively, still lose weight, and try to get into a trade. There will always be a need for diesel mechanics and things like that. And if your parents ever struggle in their retirement ( not an unlikely scenario given the state of social security) just tell them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

it is an unbearable burden to start out life with a 100k of student loans.

But it is acceptable for his parents to face the end of their lives with the same debt?

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Sounds like OP's parents can afford it, if they are moving to Hawaii. Or, they can go in debt sending him to school.






GreedyTop -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 9:22:27 AM)

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His parents should have been saving the money for him to go to college. They had 18 years.


and what if for those 18 yrs they were not able to save that money whether due to low wages (having to pay living expenses), unexpected medical bills, etc? are they still worthless?

congrats that your parents never had a financial adversity that precluded them from paying for your undergrad..





windchymes -> RE: Should I stop searching? A question of youth. (10/1/2011 9:25:03 AM)

Another option is working at McDonald's or Walmart or wherever and just take one or two classes at a time. There's no law that says you must attend school full-time. At least you can be working towards something as the time goes by....and it's going to go by anyway.







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