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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 12:20:06 PM   
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I think that scenario is most likely to happen when two people don't take the time to get to know each other, but focus on kink as the basis of their relationship rather than one of many elements.

There are a lot of Dom/mes out there who aren't captains of industry who I would submit to in a heartbeat. Why? Because they are doing something they want to do and they do it well, or they treat the job as something they do to ensure they can afford to do the things they DO want to do outside of work, but they still do their best at work.

Let's take an example. I work in a school. We have a head teacher. He has a position of real authority and would be, by definition, an alpha male.

Then there is a teacher who has turned down numerous offers of promotion because he wants to stay in the classroom and teach, because that's what he wants to do. He's an awesome teacher.

And then there's a third guy. He works as an IT support tech in the school. He finds his job boring and trivial, but he does it extremely well and almost always with a smile. He freely admits he does the job to pay for his leisure time. He travels extensively and has taught himself to speak several languages by actually living for weeks at a time in those countries.

The last person I would choose to date is the head teacher. He is permanently stressed, works ridiculous hours and never seems to get any enjoyment from his role. His job is a burden, not a pleasure.

Give me either of the other two men. To me, they define alpha. They are taking the lead in their own lives and are providing themselves with what they need to be successful and happy. I would entrust my welfare and happiness to either of those two guys in a heartbeat, given the choice.

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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 12:24:11 PM   
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They are taking the lead in their own lives and are providing themselves with what they need to be successful and happy. (myotherself)

Best line in the whole thread!


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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 12:25:03 PM   
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Thank you Lockit

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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 1:02:47 PM   
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Ok, I'm a power-slut. I enjoy submitting to a man who is successful both in his personal and his business life. I don't necessarily go for the "alpha-male" who pounds his chest and calls attention to his "power", but rather, the guy with quiet confidence, and the success that is behind that confidence.
Money? Is nice, but not the be-all end-all. The guy I'm with now teaches rather than practices as a way to give to the world. (I will admit that sometimes when I see how the people who chose to practice his craft live, as compared to how we live, I do get a twinge of jealousy...but I am proud of him for what he does.)

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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 1:31:51 PM   
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I have a lot of freedom in this area, I have my own income so my choice of partners is completely driven by personality, and sometimes whim. It doesn't really matter to me that a man is recognized by others as having external signs of success like toys and money, if I like who he is inside then he's the guy for me.  I feel that someone can have a low-paying job, but if it pays their bills then that's good enough for me.

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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 1:34:09 PM   
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thank you for this honest answer. i've also seen other people answer honestly the other way, and i can kind of see their point of view but for me if i'm submissive to someone i'm most attracted to people with strong alpha personalities who are successful.
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Ok, I'm a power-slut. I enjoy submitting to a man who is successful both in his personal and his business life. I don't necessarily go for the "alpha-male" who pounds his chest and calls attention to his "power", but rather, the guy with quiet confidence, and the success that is behind that confidence.
Money? Is nice, but not the be-all end-all. The guy I'm with now teaches rather than practices as a way to give to the world. (I will admit that sometimes when I see how the people who chose to practice his craft live, as compared to how we live, I do get a twinge of jealousy...but I am proud of him for what he does.)


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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 2:51:16 PM   
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I look at it this way---politician makes oodles of money and they are doing a really piss poor job at making our country run smoothly, however if I go to McD's I can depend on the guy making my Big Mac---it's gonna be dripping with grease and loaded with calories.   I guess I'd rather have the dude pumping gas, flipping burgers, or working at a video store.   He'll work 8 hours come home and lay on the couch, farting and screaming for a beer and I can wait on him like a good submissive.   The rich dude is going to work 3 hours, call me and lie to say he is working 16 hours when really he is tweeting pictures of his johnson.    

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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 2:53:26 PM   
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wait really? or is this satire? you'd rather sub to a dude who is in charge of the fries at mcdonalds than a senator? or not even the guy in charge of the fries because that's kind of high pressure too....you'd rather have a dude farther down the fry ladder?
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I look at it this way---politician makes oodles of money and they are doing a really piss poor job at making our country run smoothly, however if I go to McD's I can depend on the guy making my Big Mac---it's gonna be dripping with grease and loaded with calories.   I guess I'd rather have the dude pumping gas, flipping burgers, or working at a video store.   He'll work 8 hours come home and lay on the couch, farting and screaming for a beer and I can wait on him like a good submissive.   The rich dude is going to work 3 hours, call me and lie to say he is working 16 hours when really he is tweeting pictures of his johnson.    

wait so...really? or is this satire?
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I look at it this way---politician makes oodles of money and they are doing a really piss poor job at making our country run smoothly, however if I go to McD's I can depend on the guy making my Big Mac---it's gonna be dripping with grease and loaded with calories.   I guess I'd rather have the dude pumping gas, flipping burgers, or working at a video store.   He'll work 8 hours come home and lay on the couch, farting and screaming for a beer and I can wait on him like a good submissive.   The rich dude is going to work 3 hours, call me and lie to say he is working 16 hours when really he is tweeting pictures of his johnson.    


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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 3:46:07 PM   
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LOL... I am still waiting to see the real reason for this thread. We are getting closer I think.

I think we've got the answer now. He really does think it's all about the money......
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wait really? or is this satire? you'd rather sub to a dude who is in charge of the fries at mcdonalds than a senator? or not even the guy in charge of the fries because that's kind of high pressure too....you'd rather have a dude farther down the fry ladder?

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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 3:46:49 PM   
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LOL... I am still waiting to see the real reason for this thread. We are getting closer I think.



I'm with you. I give it one more page before the real reason for this thread is given and it ain't gonna get pretty. Think I'm gonna start the popcorn now


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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 3:51:36 PM   
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i'm genuinely curious how many people are turned on by money and power and how many people will stand up and admit it especially in as risk-free an environment as a backwater of the interwebs. so far the responses have been honest and interesting. i'm pleased as punch.
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ORIGINAL: Lockit

LOL... I am still waiting to see the real reason for this thread. We are getting closer I think.



I'm with you. I give it one more page before the real reason for this thread is given and it ain't gonna get pretty. Think I'm gonna start the popcorn now



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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 4:23:52 PM   
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Yes, I do think my partner's success is important. But to me that has nothing to do with money. As long as my Master is happy, stable, leading a healthy life, and following his dreams, goals, and passions, he is successful. And it is my duty and place to support and help him in that to the best of my abilities.

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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 4:41:17 PM   
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but in a capitalist, status oriented society what is there other than material success or the ability to wield power when it comes down to it? everything else is a consolation prize.
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we've had a few other threads that touched on the "alpha" vs. "beta" concepts, and they don't fly for a lot of people.

there are lots of ways to determine success besides financial/material success.

having a certain job doesn't make a person any more or less likely to be able to control themselves. a lot of people living in high end suburbia are living paycheck to paycheck just like people in the ghetto. they may have bigger paychecks, but they blow through them just as fast.

the idea that the amount of money someone has somehow directly equates to someone's ability to lead boggles my mind.





If someone is working at a low paying job, then I sincerely believe that they are in what I would term a "survival mode" status in life.
When I sense that in someone, logically I dont think that they are in a position to be in a relationship to Dom or control anyone. To take a dominant stance in life to me, means making logical decisions for yourself and know how to use your time wisely.

When someone is struggling financially but thinks that chasing pussy is the top priority ... that just screams= I am out of control and dont know what Im doing.

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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 4:58:56 PM   
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I have dated alpha and beta types, IF you are using the criteria of not being as well off as an upper class citizen as meaning they are beta. Personally I do not see guys by dollar signs. I have dated, bikers, cops, lawyers, a judge, an actor, people who have worked alongside me in various jobs (and therefore equal), a mechanic and more than a few military men. It is not the money they make, it is the control over ME which mattered. There is charisma, power, a disarming nature, sardonic humor, intelligence and the ability to turn my prudish buttons upsidedown that make me stay with someone for any length of time.
I have met some that I might classify as beta type, that do not meet my criteria for intimacy. And yes I do see many of those as just being "dominant" in order to find a "submissive" who will cling to them. Note that I empathsized both D and S there, because I have also seen submissive types that are sub only to get someone in their lives.
Not that it is a bad thing. People do what they must go get what they need, whether that is kink, or closeness.

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question for submissives: how important is it to you that the man or woman you serve be successful in their real life? i'm not asking whether you're only attracted to sugar daddies/mommies, but do you take into consideration the fact that if somebody is working at a video store or pumping gas they probably can barely run their own lives? or, if we can admit to being just a tad more shallow, don't you find it much hotter when someone is a highly successful alpha type than when they're a lethargic beta type? do you suspect the beta types are just looking for a "submissive" so they can have a girlfriend or a boyfriend who has too much baggage of their own to leave them?



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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 5:03:50 PM   
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question for submissives: how important is it to you that the man or woman you serve be successful in their real life? i'm not asking whether you're only attracted to sugar daddies/mommies, but do you take into consideration the fact that if somebody is working at a video store or pumping gas they probably can barely run their own lives? or, if we can admit to being just a tad more shallow, don't you find it much hotter when someone is a highly successful alpha type than when they're a lethargic beta type? do you suspect the beta types are just looking for a "submissive" so they can have a girlfriend or a boyfriend who has too much baggage of their own to leave them?


What I suspect is that you've been here before, under a different name, and each time the raison d'être is simply to be inflammatory, but only to the extent that allows you to not be in violation of the TOS. The usual response to anyone calling you out on it is to say "but I'm just asking a question", or some other variation on that theme.

Have a nice day.

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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 5:05:49 PM   
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Whatever, DD. I think it is a good question. Or 3 good questions.
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question for submissives: how important is it to you that the man or woman you serve be successful in their real life? i'm not asking whether you're only attracted to sugar daddies/mommies, but do you take into consideration the fact that if somebody is working at a video store or pumping gas they probably can barely run their own lives? or, if we can admit to being just a tad more shallow, don't you find it much hotter when someone is a highly successful alpha type than when they're a lethargic beta type? do you suspect the beta types are just looking for a "submissive" so they can have a girlfriend or a boyfriend who has too much baggage of their own to leave them?


What I suspect is that you've been here before, under a different name, and each time the raison d'être is simply to be inflammatory, but only to the extent that allows you to not be in violation of the TOS.

Have a nice day.


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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 5:27:47 PM   
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you've made that clear several times. let me offer two replies.

first you're wrong.

second you only get to go "harumph, i said GOOD DAY SIR" and then storm off with a grand flourish once. i've now lost count of how many times you've tried that move. it's getting a trifle sad so please to contribute to our thread or contribute somewhere else. no need to waste your time pulling the routine again. :D
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question for submissives: how important is it to you that the man or woman you serve be successful in their real life? i'm not asking whether you're only attracted to sugar daddies/mommies, but do you take into consideration the fact that if somebody is working at a video store or pumping gas they probably can barely run their own lives? or, if we can admit to being just a tad more shallow, don't you find it much hotter when someone is a highly successful alpha type than when they're a lethargic beta type? do you suspect the beta types are just looking for a "submissive" so they can have a girlfriend or a boyfriend who has too much baggage of their own to leave them?


What I suspect is that you've been here before, under a different name, and each time the raison d'être is simply to be inflammatory, but only to the extent that allows you to not be in violation of the TOS. The usual response to anyone calling you out on it is to say "but I'm just asking a question", or some other variation on that theme.

Have a nice day.


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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 5:44:52 PM   
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second you only get to go "harumph, i said GOOD DAY SIR" and then storm off with a grand flourish once. i've now lost count of how many times you've tried that move. it's getting a trifle sad so please to contribute to our thread or contribute somewhere else. no need to waste your time pulling the routine again. :D


I did? Where?

I think you read too much into things. No, let me rephrase. You read too much into things.

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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 6:06:42 PM   
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well when i say "beta" i mean more laid back, and more likely to just let things pass instead of trying to control every situation. like an alpha is a total type a all the time. always has to have the upper hand. always on the offensive. a beta guy is sometimes a little bit spineless. settles for things instead of going after what he really wants. both kinds of guys call themselves doms, i'm just curious if anybody really prefers the second type or if anybody with a beta is pretty much looking to upgrade.

the question i was asking about money and status was a separate but related question. you can have alpha guys who work as mechanics because that's their skill set and what they like, and beta guys who run law firms because the firm has been passed down from their great great grandfather.

this is where it gets interesting. are subs attracted to money? to power? or are they attracted to force of personality even if the guy with the strongest personality isn't always the guy with the highest status?
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I have dated alpha and beta types, IF you are using the criteria of not being as well off as an upper class citizen as meaning they are beta. Personally I do not see guys by dollar signs. I have dated, bikers, cops, lawyers, a judge, an actor, people who have worked alongside me in various jobs (and therefore equal), a mechanic and more than a few military men. It is not the money they make, it is the control over ME which mattered. There is charisma, power, a disarming nature, sardonic humor, intelligence and the ability to turn my prudish buttons upsidedown that make me stay with someone for any length of time.
I have met some that I might classify as beta type, that do not meet my criteria for intimacy. And yes I do see many of those as just being "dominant" in order to find a "submissive" who will cling to them. Note that I empathsized both D and S there, because I have also seen submissive types that are sub only to get someone in their lives.
Not that it is a bad thing. People do what they must go get what they need, whether that is kink, or closeness.

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question for submissives: how important is it to you that the man or woman you serve be successful in their real life? i'm not asking whether you're only attracted to sugar daddies/mommies, but do you take into consideration the fact that if somebody is working at a video store or pumping gas they probably can barely run their own lives? or, if we can admit to being just a tad more shallow, don't you find it much hotter when someone is a highly successful alpha type than when they're a lethargic beta type? do you suspect the beta types are just looking for a "submissive" so they can have a girlfriend or a boyfriend who has too much baggage of their own to leave them?




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RE: now i aint sayin she a gold digger... - 10/2/2011 6:34:54 PM   
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I've known several captains of industry, heads of minor states, ambassadors etc. None of whom I would have allowed to run my life. They had no empathy. And they believed they could buy what they wanted which included love. You can buy sex, you can't buy love. You can buy medicine, you can't buy health. You can buy servants but not real friends.

The nicest in the bunch were the two ambassadors. But they tended not to do the work required to keep their relationships in good health. And none of them ever had time for their children. I judge people by their abilities as parents. When you promise to go to the dance recital and then cancel, you're lying to that child and are uncaring about her. Which makes me have no respect for you.

No thanks.

Plus in this economy, who isn't suffering?


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