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the US may hold an election in which BOTH candidates are black

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ORIGINAL: VioletGray

Also, I think it is highly unlikely that Herman Cain will be the nominee. It's easy to say one will support a black man for office, but in the voting booth you are by yourself, and the machine won't judge you on your predjudices. Speaking of which Herman Cain is by far the most Islamophobic candidate running, which I see as an exploitable weakness.

By the way, remember all the "Obama is inexperienced holding a political office" stuff when he was running? I just looked up Cain on Wikipedia, and I can't find him holding a political office at all. Am I mistaken?

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1. Y'know, Violet, I agree that he likely won't be the nominee.  But the fact that he's even being taken seriously is, IMO, a huge victory. 

I don't see Islamophobia as being a weakness at all in the GOP primary.  It might be in the general election.

2. As TheHeretic pointed out in his post, Cain has held numerous jobs but never an elected office.

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Five years ago, it would have been unthinkable for a black to run for President.  Now a black man holds the office.

Herman Cain has entered the race for the GOP nod.   He is considered a viable candidate, and nary a word has been spoken about his race, except that it's not that common to see a black Republican.  Three years ago, the US held its first election in which a major party candidate was black, and now there seems to be a very real possibility that, four years after that, the US may hold an election in which BOTH candidates are black.

Wow.

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Yes, Obama certainly did a fine job of lowering the bar for who is considered a viable candidate for the office. We elected a first term Senator who hadn't had a private sector job since serving ice-cream in high school, now we are talking about a guy who has never held any sort of public office in his life.

Oh wait... Am I supposed to be all hung up on pigmentation? Sorry. Guess I'm still stuck on that "experience" thing as a qualification.

1.  He says, and has a history of surrounding himself with good people, who understand the job, evaluating their advice and using their knowledge to operate.

2.  He did work for the Federal Reserve, so he has some bureaucratic experience.

3.  How has electing politicians worked out for us over the last few decades? 

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I'm now supporting Cain.

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I'm now supporting Cain.

How much have you looked into what he said during the campaign? Does his contempt for the First Amendment not put you off?

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I'm now supporting Cain.

How much have you looked into what he said during the campaign? Does his contempt for the First Amendment not put you off?

Compared to the Democrats contempt for the entire Constitution, you mean?  [8|][8D]

Firm

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Yes, Obama certainly did a fine job of lowering the bar for who is considered a viable candidate for the office. We elected a first term Senator who hadn't had a private sector job since serving ice-cream in high school, now we are talking about a guy who has never held any sort of public office in his life.
Oh wait... Am I supposed to be all hung up on pigmentation? Sorry. Guess I'm still stuck on that "experience" thing as a qualification.

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That says very nice things about the USA ![:D]

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ORIGINAL: DeviantlyD

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That says very nice things about the USA ![:D]

Except that the statement alone (mentioning of a candidate's ethnicity) says this nation still has a ways to go.

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Five years ago, it would have been unthinkable for a black to run for President.  Now a black man holds the office.

Herman Cain has entered the race for the GOP nod.   He is considered a viable candidate, and nary a word has been spoken about his race, except that it's not that common to see a black Republican.  Three years ago, the US held its first election in which a major party candidate was black, and now there seems to be a very real possibility that, four years after that, the US may hold an election in which BOTH candidates are black.

Wow.

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2. As TheHeretic pointed out in his post, Cain has held numerous jobs but never an elected office.

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Yes, Obama certainly did a fine job of lowering the bar for who is considered a viable candidate for the office. We elected a first term Senator who hadn't had a private sector job since serving ice-cream in high school, now we are talking about a guy who has never held any sort of public office in his life.

Oh wait... Am I supposed to be all hung up on pigmentation? Sorry. Guess I'm still stuck on that "experience" thing as a qualification.

Rich,

I'm now supporting Cain.  You point about elected office was the biggest hurdle I had to get over.

Treasure and I spent some time listening to everything that we could find on him.

The three things that decided me on him, to overcome this objection were:

1.  He says, and has a history of surrounding himself with good people, who understand the job, evaluating their advice and using their knowledge to operate.

2.  He did work for the Federal Reserve, so he has some bureaucratic experience.

3.  How has electing politicians worked out for us over the last few decades? 

I'm more than willing to give him a chance, based on those things.