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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady
I don't know what business you are in or when it was that was "back in the day," but in today's economy with so many people desperate for jobs, that logic simply doesn't apply. Many people who are searching for work get up to an alarm every day and "pound the pavement," whether they do it by getting on their home computer sending out resumes and trying to network or are out on interviews and meeting with headhunters.

The concept that someone who is already employed will make a better employee has one very major flaw. They are looking to jump ship at their current employer and have no loyalty to any company. Job hoppers are constantly looking for the better deal, and that doesn't make them a better employee.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Once Rich has been out of work for 6 months or so I bet he'll change his mind.

Well, that's a nice assumption about my character, Ken, but no. The last time I was stubbornly unemployed, and stuck in rotten finacial circumstances, I migrated a thousand miles, to where I could find a decent job.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

Once Rich has been out of work for 6 months or so I bet he'll change his mind.

Well, that's a nice assumption about my character, Ken, but no. The last time I was stubbornly unemployed, and stuck in rotten finacial circumstances, I migrated a thousand miles, to where I could find a decent job.

And what would have happened if that employer had refused to hire you because you were unemployed?

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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

We have a fair amount of applicants who list consulting positions, perhaps as a work around for listing periods of unemployment. Consulting can be full time plus or almost non-existent. We prefer people who've been working in a corporate environment, with the discipline of coming to work every day.

What I always scan for is job hoppers. If all of their recent positions have been less than two years, it's likely their tenure with us will be short as well.

Short appears to be relative - we recently lost an IT guy who thought his two years with us was a "long time."

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

The way we take care of the unemployed in a free society, as opposed to a nanny-state, Orchid, is by promoting an environment of economic growth and recovery.

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ORIGINAL: DomKen

And what would have happened if that employer had refused to hire you because you were unemployed?

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ORIGINAL: tj444
JMO but if i were said employer, the fact that someone would be willing to move 1,000 miles to take a job with my company would trump him/her being unemployed for 6 months or so... It shows a considerable amount of motivation and very positive, imo.

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ORIGINAL: KenDckey

A friend said this.   I think it pretty much covers it

A job is where you exchange time/labor/talent for money. Work is where you make the world a better place each day. A career is for those that can do both at the same time. I'm upset that Occupy Wall Street would work at taking the benefit of my job away. They know some of us will still do the work because it makes the worker a better person. But then Occupy Wall Street is against anyone being better than anyone else. So eventually I will have to quit my job to be as miserable as them. Nice plan Occupy Wall Street, if everyone is destitute then there will be a black market in producing goods and services. It seems like I watched a bunch of cold war movies where they were doing that in Russia.

Seems your friend is full of shit.

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

Well you didnt cause it, but the American companies and the American system of the free market letting the market dictate and the American way of laissez faire policy advised to other governments was a significant, no, not significant, decisive factor in causing our recession, not to mention the sub prime mortgage crisis kicked off in America and we are still dealing with the after effects of this shit and will for decades to come. Oh America played a leading part all right. You were the star culprits. As for American companies moving out, no it is not justified if there is no cause for it , ie companies making BIG profits but not as big as heretofore, why should staff who BUILT up these companies deal with it , fuck that, let the company deal with it, they caused the mess, they owe a debt of loyalty to the employee, how dare they take away people's livelihoods, HOW DARE THEY, they may be entitled in law to do this but it does not make it right, they have a nerve, they are despicable and yes the American companies in the mix are despicable, without those workers they would be zilch in profit yet they have the effrontery to turf out those very workers from their jobs and bail out when things get too tough, well if they didnt like the heat they shouldnt have got involved in the first place, another example of how your glorious system of capitalism has utterly FAILED, as for Southern Ireland and Northern Ireland no comparison im afraid, break away groups on both sides perpetrated the violence, nothing to do with government, the difference with Iraq is that it is LEGAL violence perpetrated by government , your wonderful American government
kevin

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ORIGINAL: TheHeretic

The way we take care of the unemployed in a free society, as opposed to a nanny-state, Orchid, is by promoting an environment of economic growth and recovery.

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady
Exactly. It depends on what you are looking for in an employee. If you are looking for longevity, don't go with a job hopper. Sure, they are concerned about their "record," but they also don't intend to stay with your company longer than necessary to ask for the next better salary.

As for LadyPact's example of a dentist, I don't think it is relevant. We aren't hearing about doctors and dentists who are out of work for long periods of time. Corporate workers and blue collar workers are being downsized and not likely in fields where they can hang their own shingle and work for themselves.

Discrimination in the work place is rampant. There is regular age discrimination. People being discriminated against because they are out of work. Sex discrimination.

There are all kinds of reasons people may have lapses in employment. Women who took time off to raise their children are looked down upon. People who took time off because they had to take care of an ailing family member.

Just because someone has been out of work doesn't equate to them sitting home on the couch eating bon bons and watching soap operas. Most keep up with the current things within their field and stay up on technology that is relevant. I've been out of work due to an injury for several years, and probably won't be able to go back to work soon if at all, yet I still keep up with what is currently taking place in my field, and still can run circles around people who haven't had several years off, but still lack my years of experience.

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ORIGINAL: lobodomslavery

Back up the truck love. The US may be sending billions to our country as you say but it also has to share its responsibility for this crushing recession, firstly the US is also spending billions on war, what is that about, the so called search for weapons of mass destruction, which WERE NOT there, and the gargantuan waste of money there, money that it could have used to support job creation and growth and finally the number of US companies that are SELFISHLY closing down in Ireland, despite the fact that some of them ARE continuing to make HEALTHY profits , just not as much as hertofore, some are continuing to make BILLIONS just not as much as hertofore and they use this as justification to render workers REDUNDANT , without jobs, because of their GREED and their INCOMPETENCE in dealing ineffectively with the challenges posed by the recession, so before you shoot from the hip, think about that Ma'am, its not exactly a picture of altruism that you might feel America is giving to other nations, its not, its taking more, US companies are responsible for the fact that millions are now unemployed FACT
kevin