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SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 4:52:23 AM

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And he has never even so much as sold a single pizza in the real world, either:

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WASHINGTON (AP) — In President Barack Obama's sales pitch for his jobs bill, there are two versions of reality: The one in his speeches and the one actually unfolding in Washington.

When Obama accuses Republicans of standing in the way of his nearly $450 billion plan, he ignores the fact that his own party has struggled to unite behind the proposal.When the president says Republicans haven't explained what they oppose in the plan, he skips over the fact that Republicans who control the House actually have done that in detail.

And when he calls on Congress to "pass this bill now," he slides past the point that Democrats control the Senate and were never prepared to move immediately, given other priorities. Senators are expected to vote Tuesday on opening debate on the bill, a month after the president unveiled it with a call for its immediate passage...

...He is waging a campaign, one in which nuance and context and competing responses don't always fit in if they don't help make the case.

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 4:56:19 AM

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And he has never even so much as sold a single pizza in the real world, either:

Maybe Herman Cain can get him a temp job at Godfather's Pizza. O should be good at that, slinging dough around.

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 5:14:53 AM

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Finally, Obamas first real job!

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Maybe Herman Cain can get him a temp job at Godfather's Pizza. O should be good at that, slinging dough around.

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 5:57:46 AM

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I haven't been following this one that close, but seems like I read that part of the deal with McConnell is he was trying to force a vote on the bill because Dems didn't support it either - at least, not until they attached a tax increase.

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 8:10:31 AM

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Some people really hate seeing a nigger get paid more than they do...

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 8:31:17 AM

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And he has never even so much as sold a single pizza in the real world, either:

Maybe Herman Cain can get him a temp job at Godfather's Pizza. O should be good at that, slinging dough around.

Prolly not, Cain likes to cut jobs so that he can pay out bigger bonuses to senior mis-management.

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 3:16:40 PM

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FR -

RE-ELECT Obama: 41%...
'AIMLESS OBAMA WALKS ALONE'...
'Loner'...
AP: Disconnected from reality...

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 3:18:56 PM

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Finally, Obamas first real job!

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Maybe Herman Cain can get him a temp job at Godfather's Pizza. O should be good at that, slinging dough around.

Disagree...POTUS is a real job. If you had said "first real job he's qualified for" then we would be on the same page.

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 3:22:12 PM

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I wouldnt call anything in the public sector a "real' job. Just look at Obama, even according to the left-leaning AP he is living in a world of make believe...

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 3:46:07 PM

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Finally, Obamas first real job!

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Maybe Herman Cain can get him a temp job at Godfather's Pizza. O should be good at that, slinging dough around.

Senator and president are both jobs that pay more than you make.
Who knows if you had really applied yourself in school you might have been able to go to college and maybe even have got a job that paid well.
Standing on the sideines belittling those who have accomplished more is unseemly at best.

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 4:06:15 PM

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I wouldnt call anything in the public sector a "real' job. Just look at Obama, even according to the left-leaning AP he is living in a world of make believe...

Do you ever fully read the articles you post?

Here, let me help you out yet again. From your link:

The president's opponents aren't exactly laying it all out, either.

Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., tried to force a vote on the bill last week, innocently claiming that the president was entitled to one. McConnell knew full well that the result would be failure for the legislation and an embarrassment for Obama.

House Speaker John Boehner, meanwhile, claimed that Obama has "given up on the country and decided to campaign full-time" instead of seeking common ground with the GOP. But Boehner neglected to mention that Obama's past attempts at compromise with Republicans often yielded scant results, as Obama himself pointed out.

By the way, Obama was employed as a civil rights attorney, and also as a law professor.

Before you keep making an ass out of yourself check your facts.

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 4:10:11 PM

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public sector, not a real job?
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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 4:19:14 PM

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I wouldnt call anything in the public sector a "real' job. Just look at Obama, even according to the left-leaning AP he is living in a world of make believe...

So a career in the forces isnt a real job.....What a joke.

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 4:32:57 PM

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I wouldnt call anything in the public sector a "real' job. Just look at Obama, even according to the left-leaning AP he is living in a world of make believe...

So a career in the forces isnt a real job.....What a joke.

OMG does this mean that "monty" never had a real job...I suppose all of those germans died of something besides "monty's machine".

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 5:08:47 PM

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So a career in the forces isnt a real job.....What a joke.

Technically yes but it's a consumption job, not production.

Creating 1 billion jobs that rely on taxes isn't the same as 1 billion workforce jobs by far.

It's a noble job but that's just the way it is so making more of those in an economy like this and calling them equal is irresponsible.

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 5:11:39 PM

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But thats not what he said
he said a public sector job, wasnt a REAL job.
Which is blatantly fucked up, wether is consumption or production.,

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 5:52:25 PM

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So a career in the forces isnt a real job.....What a joke.

Technically yes but it's a consumption job, not production.

Creating 1 billion jobs that rely on taxes isn't the same as 1 billion workforce jobs by far.

It's a noble job but that's just the way it is so making more of those in an economy like this and calling them equal is irresponsible.

Oh right, the the millions made in exports of military hardware are not jobs. On top of that, the cost of paying for armed forces doesnt come out of taxpayers money, does it ??

The problem with that thinking is you cherry pick what is taxpayers money and what isnt. Not me, I call it as it is in the real world.

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 6:04:05 PM

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Youve never served, apparently. In the military theyll have you dig a hole then fill it back in, so that youre not standing around. In a motor pool I watched a guy who overfilled a vehicle with motor oil spend an entire afternoon wiping it off the dipstick with a rag in order to bring it down to the proper fill level. Its common for artillerymen (for example) to shoot off artillery rounds day and night for a month to destroy millions of dollars in munitions just because budget money would be lost if those shells were still in the inventory at the end of the fiscal year.

No, sorry - not really what I would call a "real" job in the real world. The military world is just bizarre... try running a private business like bureaucrats run the government, which that was my point.

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I wouldnt call anything in the public sector a "real' job. Just look at Obama, even according to the left-leaning AP he is living in a world of make believe...

So a career in the forces isnt a real job.....What a joke.

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 6:05:47 PM

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As a rule, the military doesnt manufacture, sell, or export weaponry.

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Oh right, the the millions made in exports of military hardware are not jobs. On top of that, the cost of paying for armed forces doesnt come out of taxpayers money, does it ??

The problem with that thinking is you cherry pick what is taxpayers money and what isnt. Not me, I call it as it is in the real world.

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RE: SPIN METER: Obama disconnects rhetoric, reality - 10/10/2011 6:11:52 PM

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Oh right, the the millions made in exports of military hardware are not jobs. On top of that, the cost of paying for armed forces doesnt come out of taxpayers money, does it ??

Who makes that hardware?

Show me the profit margin of the military. (Let's see how long it takes for the light bulb over your head to switch on)

Here I helped you. That's not all of them. When you connect the dots between the MSM and those that profit you'll begin to see just what's possibly going on in the US today and who has a vested interest in keeping war alive.

That last part is free.

http://www.commondreams.org/views01/1218-03.htm

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