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HannahLynHeather -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 4:07:35 PM)
quote: In any job that involves satisfying clients, you absolutely do have to speculate on what they they want. If you don't, you lose those clients. unless of course the client happens to tell you exactly what they want, which is the case in the fucking op, that's what she was bitching about, that the guy knew what he wanted and didn't want what she wanted to give him. she still wanted his fucking money, but she didn't want to do what she was paid to do. you do renovation type work sometimes, right? well if your client tells you they want green walls you don't decide to paint them blue based on your speculation that they really would prefer that. why is a pay top any fucking different?

NocturnalStalker -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 4:15:20 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker Luckily, you're not. You are getting paid to do some silly little roleplay. But it can't appear like a 'silly roleplay', it's got to look real, to some extent. For me it'd have to, anyway. I absolutely have to know that 'she' is enjoying what she's doing. I presume a pro-Domme at least has to feign such enjoyment enough for her customer to BS himself that she's enjoying it. That feigning would work better if she actually is enjoying it, at least a bit. I'm assuming though that you never had to resort to being with a pro-domme. I think what is happening is that you're clouding the situation here by making it more of a relationship than a deviant business transaction. If I ever had to get my thrills off with a pro-domme then you can wager I'm not going to be taking her feelings into consideration too much simply because I'm visiting her for my enjoyment only. If a stripper gives a gross old guy a lapdance I don't think the old guy suddenly asks if she's having a good time grinding herself upto him.

HannahLynHeather -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 4:24:32 PM)
quote: If a stripper gives a gross old guy a lapdance I don't think the old guy suddenly asks if she's having a good time grinding herself upto him. good fucking analogy.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 4:25:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: Oh for fuck's sake. You're a whore. Your job is to satisfy your clients, not speculate on what you think they want. If you do a good job, they come back. If you don't, they don't. I'm very impressed with how strongly you feel on this subject, Awareness, as denoted by your use of the word 'whore', and 'fuck' on multiple occasions. Well done on that. [:)] However, the fact that you feel strongly on the matter doesn't make you any more right than if you felt weakly on it, unfortunately. In any job that involves satisfying clients, you absolutely do have to speculate on what they they want. If you don't, you lose those clients. Actually it's just another example about how UNaware our little virgin who wishes to be a dominant is, with most reputable pro dommes there really is no fucking, it's about the skills (I guess another new word for the little boy) and guys coming for a unique experience they can't get, like a rope bondage, a whipping that will hurt but not maim or cause lasting damage, sure a lot of guys get aroused, but a lot of guys get aroused watching vanilla movies and fantasizing about the actresses. But I guess it makes him feel better about not getting any if he calls pro dommes whores. Hey, let him, his life seems to be so freaking miserable, we won't grudge him that little bit of joy of slamming something he simply doesn't understand - like most things, but one day he will find a girl who's not repulsed by him and it all might change...

HannahLynHeather -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 4:29:40 PM)
quote: But I guess it makes him feel better about not getting any if he calls pro dommes whores. i get plenty, more than most, but i call them whores as well. what's your lame ass armchair psychological rationale for that, eh? i'm sorry if it pisses you the fuck off, but he's fucking well right this time.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 4:36:26 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather quote: But I guess it makes him feel better about not getting any if he calls pro dommes whores. i get plenty, more than most, but i call them whores as well. what's your lame ass armchair psychological rationale for that, eh? i'm sorry if it pisses you the fuck off, but he's fucking well right this time. Couldn't care less what you call them, they aren't putting out, you can call them the fire brigade for all that it's worth, won't make them so. How's that for lame ass name calling?

Awareness -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 4:47:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: Oh for fuck's sake. You're a whore. Your job is to satisfy your clients, not speculate on what you think they want. If you do a good job, they come back. If you don't, they don't. I'm very impressed with how strongly you feel on this subject, Awareness, as denoted by your use of the word 'whore', and 'fuck' on multiple occasions. Well done on that. [:)] Actually the word whore was a purely descriptive one, not an expletive and dude, you're impressed by Dommes, so the barrier to entry ain't exactly high. quote: However, the fact that you feel strongly on the matter doesn't make you any more right than if you felt weakly on it, unfortunately. In any job that involves satisfying clients, you absolutely do have to speculate on what they they want. If you don't, you lose those clients. You didn't read the OP closely enough. The dude had multiple sessions clearly indicating he was getting what he wants. SHE speculated that he wasn't getting as fine an experience as he could have, but the reality is, her little Domme mind couldn't handle the fact that she wasn't getting to be as bossy as she would have liked. So arguments that her little rant is reasonable based upon the idea that she was just looking to keep the client are errant nonsense. He was happy - SHE was the one with the problem.

Awareness -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 4:51:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather quote: But I guess it makes him feel better about not getting any if he calls pro dommes whores. i get plenty, more than most, but i call them whores as well. what's your lame ass armchair psychological rationale for that, eh? i'm sorry if it pisses you the fuck off, but he's fucking well right this time. I knew she'd bite on this one - her self-image is at stake. Frankly, you've both been whores, but at least you call it out for what it is instead of trying to build mystical bullshit around it. There's an interpersonal intimate exchange for money. She might try and lie to herself to cope with the sad reality of what she was doing, but ultimately, she's just an uppity whore with less honesty. That amuses me.

Hisprettybaby -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 5:08:13 PM)
Oh FFS, why the hell do people have to judge ALL ProDommes by what ONE ProDomme(the OP) is saying and doing? This ALL or NOTHING mentality is just B.S. That's bigotry against a whole group based on always/never judgments against that group. rolls eyes ~Hisprettybaby~

LadyConstanze -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 5:09:58 PM)
Let's put it this way, once you really had a BDSM experience, you know IRL not in your fantasy and where you theorize about how things should be, you will cut your mystical bullshit and you will be really amazed what it can be. It's great if something amuses you, because for most people with real BDSM experience, you are a never ending source of amusement, sort of a running gag, which is possibly a bit unfair, considering the fact that you are so sad and lonely, so take all the amusement you can get and have it when you are having your solitary moments of pleasure. Must be really hard to be alone after an orgasm with nobody to cuddle up to apart from mother palm and her five daughters...

HannahLynHeather -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 5:11:42 PM)
quote: How's that for lame ass name calling? pretty fucking useless, it doesn't make any fucking sense.

PeonForHer -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 5:18:19 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Awareness you're impressed by Dommes. Wow. OK, I'll try to remember that. quote: SHE speculated that he wasn't getting as fine an experience as he could have, but the reality is, her little Domme mind couldn't handle the fact that she wasn't getting to be as bossy as she would have liked. No. It was both. She felt she could enjoy the sessions more - perhaps, just as you say, by being more bossy. And she also felt that he could enjoy them more, if she were able to be more bossy. But here's a thing for you: If I once thought that a femdom were BSing herself about how much more I'd enjoy a thing by her being more bossy - or even more self-centred - when, really her thinking is all about her enjoyment - I'd enjoy it even more. That is because I'm a sub male. Sub males tend to operate with perverted logic, on account of they - we - are perverts. You read it here first. ;-)

HannahLynHeather -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 5:18:37 PM)
quote: why the hell do people have to judge ALL ProDommes by what ONE ProDomme(the OP) is saying and doing? because it isn't just one, its damn near every fucking one of them, that's why. look at who is on this thread preaching the "special status" bullshit? how many of these so called "pro dommes" has admitted that they are just what they are, fucking hirelings, employees, paid service providers? for fuck's sake we even had a "professional online domme"!!! i mean get the fuck outta here!!

NocturnalStalker -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 5:20:40 PM)
quote: Actually it's just another example about how UNaware our little virgin who wishes to be a dominant is, with most reputable pro dommes there really is no fucking, it's about the skills (I guess another new word for the little boy) and guys coming for a unique experience they can't get, like a rope bondage, a whipping that will hurt but not maim or cause lasting damage, sure a lot of guys get aroused, but a lot of guys get aroused watching vanilla movies and fantasizing about the actresses. But I guess it makes him feel better about not getting any if he calls pro dommes whores. Hey, let him, his life seems to be so freaking miserable, we won't grudge him that little bit of joy of slamming something he simply doesn't understand - like most things, but one day he will find a girl who's not repulsed by him and it all might change... Well this was simply littered with ignorance. ETA: Just because there is no sexual contact does not mean it doesn't qualify as a sex trade. You're making a business revolving around doing outlandish activities that you're fully aware is arousing your client. You are exchanging money to get someone off. Let me repeat. You are exchanging money to get someone off.

TheFireWithinMe -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 5:23:20 PM)
quote: for fuck's sake we even had a "professional online domme"!!! i mean get the fuck outta here!! Yeah, that made me scratch my head. How the fuck does someone do foot worship online? Anyone? Bueller?

CuriousPuppy -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 5:27:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: TheFireWithinMe quote: for fuck's sake we even had a "professional online domme"!!! i mean get the fuck outta here!! Yeah, that made me scratch my head. How the fuck does someone do foot worship online? Anyone? Bueller? It made me think of this amusing video :)

PeonForHer -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 5:28:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker If a stripper gives a gross old guy a lapdance I don't think the old guy suddenly asks if she's having a good time grinding herself upto him. Well, I guess that's a closer analogy than whoever was earlier who compared it all to buying a joint of meat. But it's still wrong, because it doesn't capture the peculiar logic of a submale's mind. (Are you a sub, NS? Your profile says you're a Dom. I'm wondering if you can really relate, here . . . .) Me, you see, it really would be important to me to know that the lapdancer is enjoying herself as she 'grinds herself' on me. The fun would be ruined for me the moment I saw, even for a split second, that she were nervous about whether or not I was enjoying it. I really would have to be able to convince myself that she were doing it mainly (at least) as a power-trip over me.

Awareness -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 5:30:38 PM)
Hmmmm... what's that baby? Your self-image can't take the fact that I see you clearly and find you amusing? I guess that Domme thing is just an image thing then isn't it? All bullshit, no reality. I like that you resort to implying I don't get laid. It kind of demonstrates your weakness. Honestly, you "Dommes" make this all so easy for me. I don't have to do a damn thing to prove that you're weak pretenders with no actual strength. You do it all yourselves. Next!

TheFireWithinMe -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 5:32:43 PM)
<roars with laughter> that is just so apropos for this thread. Bravo!

LadyConstanze -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 5:33:54 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather quote: How's that for lame ass name calling? pretty fucking useless, it doesn't make any fucking sense. Same as your post then... Might have to do with cultural differences though, a guy who wants to get his rocks off has plenty of ways to do that, completely legal, so somebody who goes for domination usually doesn't pick a domme, as it's pretty much understood that it ain't happening, not due to legal boundaries but simply choice, if he wants the sexual aspect (or a "happy ending" whichever way - that's open to negotiation) he'll go to a bizarre lady, he'll get a bit of BDSM and the more physical/sexual aspect, in case he goes to a domme, he knows he can't touch and he goes there for a skill set (usually bondage, needles, whip, etc - depending on what she specializes in), much more edge play (slap and tickle most escorts do) and usually a fully equipped dungeon and medical room. Of course there are situations where the guys want "a bit of privacy" and you leave them, or they make clear that release is part of the game, there's usually a brothel nearby and the girls are willing to do that part as long as they don't have to deal with the difficult parts. I always found it rather odd that most of the working girls didn't mind fucking clients but thought whipping, putting needles into them and all that was "weird and perverted". As I said, it might be a cultural difference, but the part of the domme being sexually unavailable is possibly a big part of the attraction, because almost everything is available legally. It's kinda nuts because a lot of clients will offer crazy amounts for "sexual favors" however most dommes won't take them because word gets around and it would be the end of their domming career. You know guys who were very focused on their "release" - we used to give them lotion to "help" them - only the lotion was mixed with a fair amount of salt...

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