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NocturnalStalker -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 6:36:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: PeonForHer quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker However, you have to admit you would be one of those very rare clients that would probably make the stripper in question wonder why someone as much a "gentleman" as you is there at all. Honestly, NS - I'll assume that it was inadvertent on your part - but please, please try not to mould this into some moral thing. Hinting that I'm a 'gentleman' sets me up as someone on his high horse, just ripe to be knocked off it by those who are more 'righteous'. I really can't be arsed with engaging in that kind of argument. I know a woman - the daughter of a good friend, in fact (and, yup, that makes it difficult) who's a stripper. She told me that she gets what sounded like more of a subby buzz out of stripping than a dommy one. I told her how it worked for me, how strippers turn me on . . . and she got it. She knew my type. No, I'm no gentleman in all this. I'm just a different kind of a lecher, leching from a different place. Of course, everyone is lecherous to a degree but some can keep that under control and do not let it affect them. Now with how this topic has progressed I'm not going to look for any post days earlier made by you but from what I've speculated is that you haven't paid for any sort of service be it stripping/pro-domination/outright prostitution. I can vaguely see that you enjoy a woman stripping for you to "exploit" you in a way as opposed to how this friend's daughter you know sees it as being visual entertainment as some guy sits back and enjoys a cigarette. Correct me if i'm wrong. What you have to wonder is what percentage of men go into a strip club with your mindset. I'm going to be daring and guess very little if any at all. A majority of what strippers deal with are perverted men of varying ages and the occasional bachelor party. None of those men are looking for the stripper's best interests. She may as well be a vending machine that you slip a $20 and she sways around seductively for your eyes.

Hisprettybaby -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 6:45:13 PM)
A lot of people that have most likely never GONE TO a ProDomme or ever BEEN a ProDomme sure seem to think they know a helluva lot about ProDomming.

roguekittie -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 6:45:20 PM)
quote: WHORE -noun - 1. a woman who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse, usually for money; prostitute; harlot; strumpet. Here is the dictionary definition of a whore. I hope this clears up any confusion on the matter.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 6:48:41 PM)
Peon, I hate to interrupt but I made lasagne and we got plenty left over, H said to tell you and see how quick you could make down here. And I bought about 6 kilos of very ripe tomatoes which are now reduced to soup, sauce and pesto, we shall freeze in some until you stop by next time...

PeonForHer -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 6:50:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker What you have to wonder is what percentage of men go into a strip club with your mindset. I'm going to be daring and guess very little if any at all. A majority of what strippers deal with are perverted men of varying ages and the occasional bachelor party. None of those men are looking for the stripper's best interests. She may as well be a vending machine that you slip a $20 and she sways around seductively for your eyes. I wouldn't know what that percentage is, NS. However, I wouldn't be looking out for that stripper's best interests. I'd be looking out for her getting a kick out of having some sort of power over me. I've never really believed that the two are the same thing for all but a few women, much as I've often fantasised about it.

PeonForHer -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 6:52:34 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: LadyConstanze Peon, I hate to interrupt but I made lasagne and we got plenty left over, H said to tell you and see how quick you could make down here. And I bought about 6 kilos of very ripe tomatoes which are now reduced to soup, sauce and pesto, we shall freeze in some until you stop by next time... Oh shut up. Once again, all I have in the house is bread and butter. I just can't seem to organise going to the supermarket. [:(] Grr!

kalikshama -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 6:58:35 PM)
quote: Here is the dictionary definition of a whore. I hope this clears up any confusion on the matter. I think the definition in the appropriate jurisdiction is more relevant. If you go back a few pages, I posted that which pertains to the OP.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 7:08:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: roguekittie quote: WHORE -noun - 1. a woman who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse, usually for money; prostitute; harlot; strumpet. Here is the dictionary definition of a whore. I hope this clears up any confusion on the matter. Nice, now if she doesn't do it for money or happens to be male and doesn't do it for money, do the same terms apply or shall we just say "STUD"? Or shall we just pretend it's perfectly fine if a guy has sexual desires but a woman has to be pure and revert back to Victorian times, just so there is no confusion for the reactionaries? Couldn't have anything like women being sexual beings or - heaven forbid - actually enjoying being sexual creatures, must revert to outdated dictionary definitions so sexually frustrated females can feel much better and males can feel superior... Ding dong, wake up, 21st century, and the coffee machine is over there, get your own coffee...

NocturnalStalker -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 7:14:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: roguekittie quote: WHORE -noun - 1. a woman who engages in promiscuous sexual intercourse, usually for money; prostitute; harlot; strumpet. Here is the dictionary definition of a whore. I hope this clears up any confusion on the matter. Oh you're so cute.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 7:15:22 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hisprettybaby A lot of people that have most likely never GONE TO a ProDomme or ever BEEN a ProDomme sure seem to think they know a helluva lot about ProDomming. They possibly saw a movie and masturbated a lot, of course all pro dommes have wild sex with clients, live in huge mansions and have a bunch of body guards, all the clients are high powered politicians, secret service agents who tell them secrets and luckily the pro dommes are bullet proof (or their leather corsets are), they have to be as they are always in the middle of some CSI episode - of course they are all called Lady Heather...

CuriousPuppy -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 7:16:45 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hisprettybaby A lot of people that have most likely never GONE TO a ProDomme or ever BEEN a ProDomme sure seem to think they know a helluva lot about ProDomming. This is not a subject where experience is relevant to the ability to form an an opinion. I face one of those frequently after a cerebral hemorrhage last year let me experience a number of things that can not properly be explained in mere words. I also find it amusing how the folks trying to dismiss everyone who has no sympathy for the OP have shifted to "pro dominant" to "pro domme" in transparently attempting to dismiss many of the posters making them look at the uncomfortable truth, I can assume this will continue on with "pro domme... in xyz country/state/providence/city/etc" as required to keep up the transparent attempt to dismiss the truth of the situation that the OP was crying about.

Hisprettybaby -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 7:33:12 PM)
I'm not necessarily saying I have any sympathy for the OP, but I have said is that the customer should get the fantasy he is paying for, whether or not the OP likes it AND that, if the ProDommes are not doing any actual sex with the customers(including strap-on) then they are not prostitutes. Yes, the customer may be getting sexual thrills out of it, BUT if there is no sex actually taking place, then she is not a prostitute.

roguekittie -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 7:40:10 PM)
quote: Nice, now if she doesn't do it for money or happens to be male and doesn't do it for money, do the same terms apply or shall we just say "STUD"? Or shall we just pretend it's perfectly fine if a guy has sexual desires but a woman has to be pure and revert back to Victorian times, just so there is no confusion for the reactionaries? Couldn't have anything like women being sexual beings or - heaven forbid - actually enjoying being sexual creatures, must revert to outdated dictionary definitions so sexually frustrated females can feel much better and males can feel superior... Ding dong, wake up, 21st century, and the coffee machine is over there, get your own coffee... What are you even talking about? I never said anything about morality. I am talking about the literal definition of a woman who takes money for sexual acts. Its the 21st century, perhaps you should start associating different feelings for the word. The word merely reflects the definition, and that will never change, whether you like it or not. There is nothing to even argue, a whore is a whore. whoops 21st... not 20th lol

HannahLynHeather -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 7:46:27 PM)
quote: A lot of people that have most likely never GONE TO a ProDomme or ever BEEN a ProDomme sure seem to think they know a helluva lot about ProDomming. you're the second or third person to throw this piece of shit red herring on the table. it was bullshit the first time<s>, and it still is this time. experience is fucking irrelevant. its just tossed out to try dismiss anybody who disagrees with you.

HannahLynHeather -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 7:49:03 PM)
quote: Yes, the customer may be getting sexual thrills out of it, BUT if there is no sex actually taking place, then she is not a prostitute. bullshit and you fucking well know it. its the fucking sex trade, and they are sex workers, so they are prostitutes.

LadyConstanze -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 7:52:36 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: roguekittie quote: Nice, now if she doesn't do it for money or happens to be male and doesn't do it for money, do the same terms apply or shall we just say "STUD"? Or shall we just pretend it's perfectly fine if a guy has sexual desires but a woman has to be pure and revert back to Victorian times, just so there is no confusion for the reactionaries? Couldn't have anything like women being sexual beings or - heaven forbid - actually enjoying being sexual creatures, must revert to outdated dictionary definitions so sexually frustrated females can feel much better and males can feel superior... Ding dong, wake up, 21st century, and the coffee machine is over there, get your own coffee... What are you even talking about? I never said anything about morality. I am talking about the literal definition of a woman who takes money for sexual acts. Its the 20th century, perhaps you should start associating different feelings for the word. The word merely reflects the definition, and that will never change, whether you like it or not. There is nothing to even argue, a whore is a whore Really? I thought we are in the 21st century - at least where I am, don't know where you live... So it would be OK to call you a whore because you charge for services, assuming you work and you are not a a kept woman? Unless of course you would work for free? Which would make you what? A slut or a charity worker... Do you think bondage is a sexual act? Whipping is a sexual act? I guess that can be seen as such depending on the mindset of the person buying the services, but then a guy who gets off buying a burger from somebody wearing a fast food uniform would magically turn the fast food worker into a prostitute or - as you charmingly phrase it - a whore. For the record, I work in PR, I have a PhD, and most of the advertising is a lot more sexual than what a pro domme does - how much do you actually know about pro domming apart from dictionary definitions and the mistaken idea that we are still living in the 20th century? I think you missed the last decade of wake up calls, darling, and a clueless idiot is still a clueless idiot in the 21st century.

xxblushesxx -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 7:59:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather quote: You're calling all pro dommes prostitutes. That is a mistaken belief. no its not, they provide a sexual service in exchange for money, they are prostitutes. Pro-doms do not always provide a sexual service. Many NEVER do. There are many reasons for visiting a pro-dom and they are not all sexual. Some are psychological, some are very personal, but they do not always revolve around a man's cock. I personally, perform a sexual service for money, and am not a prostitute. I cannot be arrested for what I do. Strippers perform a sexual service for money and are not prostitutes. They cannot be arrested for what they do. You seem to want to lump everyone in the "prostitute" category. I get why you do, but it doesn't make it true.

roguekittie -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 8:00:49 PM)
quote: t would be OK to call you a whore because you charge for services, assuming you work and you are not a a kept woman? Unless of course you would work for free? Which would make you what? A slut or a charity worker... Do you think bondage is a sexual act? Whipping is a sexual act? I guess that can be seen as such depending on the mindset of the person buying the services, but then a guy who gets off buying a burger from somebody wearing a fast food uniform would magically turn the fast food worker into a prostitute or - as you charmingly phrase it - a whore. For the record, I work in PR, I have a PhD, and most of the advertising is a lot more sexual than what a pro domme does - how much do you actually know about pro domming apart from dictionary definitions and the mistaken idea that we are still living in the 20th century? I think you missed the last decade of wake up calls, darling, and a clueless idiot is still a clueless idiot in the 21st century. Listen, I am simply relaying to you what the dictionary definition is. I am sorry it is getting your panties all in a twist. Perhaps you should go and reread the definition that was given because I assure you that no matter where you look it will always be the same. A person who charges monetarily for sexual acts. It is so simple, I don't see what is so hard for you to understand. Oh you have a PhD? good for you. Is your argument supposed to suddenly get stronger with that statement? I know its 21st century, so terribly sorry, I mistyped.

xxblushesxx -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 8:02:16 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HannahLynHeather quote: Yes, the customer may be getting sexual thrills out of it, BUT if there is no sex actually taking place, then she is not a prostitute. bullshit and you fucking well know it. its the fucking sex trade, and they are sex workers, so they are prostitutes. I'm a sex worker, a cam girl is a sex worker and a stripper is a sex worker. Still NOT prostitutes. YOU FUCKED for money. You gave blowjobs for money. You let people touch you and physically stick their cocks (and whatever else) in you for money. Dommes do not do that, phone sex workers don't do that, cam girls don't do that, and strippers don't do that. They are not prostitutes. I don't have any moral judgments against prostitutes, but not all sex workers do what prostitutes do.

xxblushesxx -> RE: Yet ANOTHER Pro Domme post (10/14/2011 8:08:38 PM)
Oh. I see your point now. [8\|]

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