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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 9:29:07 AM

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As long as the oil flows from Libya, I doubt anyone in the EU cares what sort of government Libya has.

And regardless of which corporation gets to operate the spigot, that is where most the oil will be going.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 9:32:54 AM

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As far as I recalll, no one mentioned that libya was/is a islamic republic, just that its been under sharia law since 73 and 97 % of the population are sunni muslim.....
something some are still ignoring, what a surprise

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 9:33:06 AM

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I agree. But if that is the desire of the people there, what do you do?

tazzy we finally learn our lessen and stay the hell out of other peoples business...when will we understand that true change can only come from within. When their hell becomes bad enough and they can see a better life for their children under another system they will change themselves.

Otherwise we encourage change by example....we do not support them economically or militarily...we hold out a hand and wait for them to ask for help.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 9:34:57 AM

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I think we will be more than happy to get Wheelus back, Nixon should have never punked on the whole deal in 69. I can't see us not negotiating the shit outta getting that back for a base of operations there and let the oil flow like the old days, although we will pitch the shit outta that as well.

Yeah, Khadafy was a Nassar acolyte, he didnt have much for friends anywhere, (hell he even fucked Assad of Syria regligiously as his praying to mecca 5 times a day) so that old tomcat Burleigh (LOL, just because.....), needing his oil for italy sidled up to him and the transgressions of the past were quickly forgotten.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 9:38:32 AM

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May as well let them enjoy their fantasy

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I would not style Libya under Kdaffy as an Islamic republic, any more then Iraq under Saddam was such a thing.

Iran is a different story.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 9:38:48 AM

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As far as I recalll, no one mentioned that libya was/is a islamic republic, just that its been under sharia law since 73 and 97 % of the population are sunni muslim.....
something some are still ignoring, what a surprise

Well almost from the start in 69 actually at Khadfys coup.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 9:41:11 AM

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Look at China over the last 30 years. They threw millions of female babies in the river. Did we "do" anything?

Yes, we did.

We invested in their economy, imported goods from them, and sold them billions in treasury bonds.

All widely applauded by you conservatives.

As long as there is a profit to be made we can pretend Tienanmen Square never happened.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 9:46:46 AM

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Kdaffy never had a council of Mullahs functioning as a "supreme court" like Iran or Saudi Arabia among other real Islamic governments have.

By some of the standards I have seen here one could claim the UK operates under Abraham/Christian/Tlamudic law, since most British are nominally Christians, and the UK has a state church along with the head of state and a number of the Parliament being COE functionaries.

But there is a difference between the UK now and the UK of a couple centuries ago where the COE held courts and tried people for "religious" crimes.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 9:51:13 AM

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We cant even take care of our own problems. I dont believe we can be the police force to the world. Ask our help and we will give it. Otherwise, you are on your own.

Uh.....I believe they did ask for our help, and we provided it in a restrained manner where not one American life was lost.

Contrast that with the fiasco in Iraq that had the same objective of removing a dictator.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 9:55:11 AM

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FQ I think it runs the gamut. Afghanistan doesnt have the council of mullahs either, for instance, but I would still call it islamic. Pakistans supreme court is legal in nature, and not mullah laws, although they have a federal sharia court, stepped down from the supreme.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 9:58:26 AM

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Uh.....I believe they did ask for our help

They used us to help kill an enemy...not change a system that enslaves women and holds a country in the 6th century. This is not the kind of help we should be giving.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 10:04:42 AM

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This is Bushs policy, except Bush was smart enough to know that any regime change would have to be accompanied by some way of guiding the affected nation through the ensuing turmoil on account of the "radical" nature of that environment, so to speak

What nonsense. Just one week prior to invasion, GWB had no idea that there were two branches of the Muslim religion in Iraq, let alone which one would rule.

Just as he had no plan for after the invasion in Afghanistan.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 10:05:31 AM

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I bet the Kurds were a total fuckin suprise, he started googlin cheeses....

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 10:06:44 AM

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FQ I think it runs the gamut. Afghanistan doesnt have the council of mullahs either, for instance, but I would still call it islamic. Pakistans supreme court is legal in nature, and not mullah laws, although they have a federal sharia court, stepped down from the supreme.

That is certain. But there are still things like Sunday licqour laws in parts of the US and in other western countries, too, so even in them there is some small degree of "Christian" "sharia" law in place today.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 10:07:22 AM

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psst btw
exports to the following countries....from libya
Italy 31.6%, France 13%, China 9.2%, Spain 9.1%, Germany 8.4%, US 4.5% (2010)

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 10:09:53 AM

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That's what I said in the first place. Lucy.

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 10:10:19 AM

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psst btw
exports to the following countries....from libya
Italy 31.6%, France 13%, China 9.2%, Spain 9.1%, Germany 8.4%, US 4.5% (2010)

So, what are these exports? Sharia Law, or sweet crude?

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 10:10:43 AM

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yeah I know darlin, but some morons glass over facts

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 10:14:51 AM

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psst btw
exports to the following countries....from libya
Italy 31.6%, France 13%, China 9.2%, Spain 9.1%, Germany 8.4%, US 4.5% (2010)

So, what are these exports? Sharia Law, or sweet crude?

crude oil, refined petroleum products, natural gas, chemicals

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RE: New govt. in Libya based on sharia law. - 10/24/2011 10:16:05 AM

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As others have already said, the OLD govt was based on Sharia law as well

While I am of course pro-women's rights, I do side with the author of this comment:

http://news.yahoo.com/libyas-transitional-leader-declares-liberation-155513082.html

Ignorance is bliss to most of the geniuses posting about Sharia Law. The only experiences you have of the concept is that put forward by the mainstream media, who's job it is to sensationalize & instill fear w/out context.

The US was founded based on Judeo-Christian laws, ie; Ten Commandments. Israel was founded based on Jewish Laws. Countries in Asia were founded with emphasis on Buddhist laws, & India on Hindu laws.

Every religion is governed by a set of laws, & Islam is no different. When liquor stores are closed on Sundays, or no meat on Fridays, or any number of edits are enforced, THAT'S the law.

So, why is it when the Catholic Church says no birth control, or the Puritans hunted & killed witches, or the KKK used the Bible to justify slavery, that was somehow OK?

Yet, the Faux News-fed Einstein's hear "Sharia Law" & all of a sudden its "stoning all around"!

Every nation integrates their religion into their policies. If Rick Perry can hold a "prayer service" & run for POTUS, why can't the Libyan people decide what THEY want as their basis for the country?

Its short-sighted & elitist to believe that its a one way street. Not every country is Christian, & they have a right after fighting for their hard-won freedom, to decide how they want to run their country.

Period.

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