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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

What about the stereotyping/generalization some of them hold over slim people?  Don't pretend like we're supposed to turn a blind eye to overweight people thinking they're somehow better than those that weigh less than them. 

The truth is, many overweight people in my experience give themselves pity parties.  Most of them can actually change, but like everything in life, it takes patience and dedication. 

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ORIGINAL: TheFireWithinMe

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The truth is, many overweight people in my experience give themselves pity parties.  Most of them can actually change, but like everything in life, it takes patience and dedication. 

Bingfuckingo! And I used to be one of them til I accidentally lost 12 lbs after giving up frozen dinners, heh go figure. Yeah my thyroid is part of it but I lost weight (25lbs!) after I stopped making excuses.

I also used to say I wanted a guy who would accept me fat and all. But I've rethought it, I'd rather have a guy who looks beyond the fat - and then encourages me to lose weight, not because he hates the fat but because he wants me to be around as long as possible. We can say what we like, there are diseases associated with being over weight and the fat DOES make finding lumps and bumps harder.

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

The thing is I'd see fatties for maybe two or three days in a row when out walking, after that, you don't see them anymore! They give up.

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ORIGINAL: NuevaVida

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

The thing is I'd see fatties for maybe two or three days in a row when out walking, after that, you don't see them anymore! They give up.

That used to be me.  I have an eating disorder, and had to get my head straight before I could get my body right.  I just didn't have the internal strength, otherwise.

I agree - eating right and exercise are the keys to losing weight, but I also know that having the strength and tools to do this (or not) can be the deciding factor overall.  Before getting my head straight, my previous attempts were failed ones, because I couldn't stick with it.  Most people I know who have had failed attempts also beat each other up pretty good over those failures.

That is awesome that you've gotten yourself healthy, popeye.  With my new frame of mind I now have a healthier relationship with food, and I work out hard at the gym 4 times a week, plus go walking whenever possible.  The changes in my mind and body have changed my life.  I'm down 6 sizes and 1 size away from my goal.  And I've never felt better in my life - physically and mentally.

But I had to get my head right first.  That was the hardest step.

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Fire, true. Twenty five years ago if I hadn't gotten up off my fat lazy ass I'd probbly be 300 lbs by now or...dead.
The thing is I'd see fatties for maybe two or three days in a row when out walking, after that, you don't see them anymore! They give up.
If you want to lose weight or just maintain your weight excercise and better eating habits have to be a part of your life.
The last two weeks I've been at the gym *everyday*, one day 15 minutes treadmill to warm up, then ten total body workout weight machines followed by 30 minutes on the treadmill at "fat burner" intensity.
On my "off" days I just do 45 minutes on the treadmill. But, the callories are adding up and the weight is coming off slowly. And my strenghth is way up again from when I started back two months ago. The summers here can be really hot and not condusive to going to the gym so I don't.
I'm really pushing myself and will for the next two weeks to really get some progress done then I'll lighten up to 4 or 5 days at the gym.
I've always been pretty strong but I want to take it up to the next level.
And as for the all you can eat buffets, I might have a salad with rolls, a plate of food then desert. That's it, my body can't handle anymore. I can't understand how some people can eat three or four plates!

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ORIGINAL: Hisprettybaby

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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

What about the stereotyping/generalization some of them hold over slim people?  Don't pretend like we're supposed to turn a blind eye to overweight people thinking they're somehow better than those that weigh less than them. 

The truth is, many overweight people in my experience give themselves pity parties.  Most of them can actually change, but like everything in life, it takes patience and dedication. 

Yes, I've heard all the B.S. about slim people not having to watch their weight and that it must be nice to eat whatever you want whenever you want. I also know that it's not true, any more than the B.S. that's spouted about overweight people.

My first husband (been married vanilla twice) was super slim, 6'3" and never over 160 pounds soaking wet, and he had a hard as hell time maintaining a healthy weight, just as hard a time as some have losing excess weight. One of my best friends now is 5'11" and rail thin.

I'm well aware of the problems thinner people have. The difference is, I don't go around spouting stereotypes and misconceptions about them, like some people do about overweight people.

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Losing weight and maintaining the loss are more complicated than people think, though. The real trick is exercise.
http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/oct/27/hormones-feed-hunger-after-weight-loss-researchers/

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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

Have you ever noticed that 90% of the time when an argument arises it will involve a woman, or have two women going at it as opposed to two men arguing?  Or just a huge cluster of women all going back and forth? 

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Or after a man posts yet another thread about fat women or Pro Dommes, for instance?

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So NS, are you the judge of what is a "topic of actual worth"?  Just wondering.  Personally, I think there are a lot of topics that go on endlessly that are of little worth.  I just don't post on those.  I also don't consider it a big tragedy if another topic "sinks lower", as you put it.  Who care?
I enjoy your posts and your insights, for the most part, but why do you feel the need to lecture others on their online behavior?  I am honestly curious.

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Losing weight and maintaining the loss are more complicated than people think, though. The real trick is exercise.
http://www.columbian.com/news/2011/oct/27/hormones-feed-hunger-after-weight-loss-researchers/

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ORIGINAL: NocturnalStalker

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So NS, are you the judge of what is a "topic of actual worth"?  Just wondering.  Personally, I think there are a lot of topics that go on endlessly that are of little worth.  I just don't post on those.  I also don't consider it a big tragedy if another topic "sinks lower", as you put it.  Who care?
I enjoy your posts and your insights, for the most part, but why do you feel the need to lecture others on their online behavior?  I am honestly curious.

My point has been proven.  See if I reply to this, it'll just turn into a little slap fight and escalate to the point of intervention from moderators.  Many of us have fallen into this whole downward spiral but somebody has to step away and think, "this is dumb."