Hillwilliam
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Let me break it down for you, since I used to be in the public information office while in the military. It was part of my job to put out press releases and deal with the media. If a plane from my base crashed, we have what's known as the golden hour. Basically that means we have one hour to put out a release about the incident, even if it's only basic information. In that hour, there is nothing but chaos. I don't know the details of the crash any more than the average citizen because my need for detailed information for my press release does not trump protection of life, or containment of of potential hazards. So if someone asked if the plane was carrying the general, weapons, or a herd of goats, I wouldn't be able to say. When I started getting information, I'd release it. But even then the information may change moment to moment. It doesn't mean I lied if I said 4 people were on board one minute, then mention 4 more then next.
That's kinda like what we have here, I suspect. Some talking figurehead far from the action made a statement, then got pulled aside by someone with the correct info who said "Hey there, dude. We've been using gas and flashbangs for about 4 hours now. Where have you been?"
Now, if the most recent reports *still* had the same chucklehead claiming nothing was used, then you'd have a flat-out lie. But pointing to "early reports" as evidence of the untrustworthiness of the whole department is a bit disingenuous.
Nice try on the analogy but it doesnt work. Know why? A plane crash isn't planned. It is a totally novel, evolving situation that you have hopefully prepared for but not planned.
This raid WAS planned (Or are you going to try to tell me that they just up and decide "Hey, let's pull 3rd shift in and get those protestors off the square")
The personnel to be used was planned.
The equipment was planned and issued and, most importantly to the subject at hand, the munitions load out to be issued and USED was planned.
You don't issue something unless you plan for it to be used. This isn't a spur of the moment op. This was probably at least a couple of days in the making.
Someone knew well ahead of time that flashbangs, rubber bullets and teargas was going to be issued and presumably used and yet that spokesman sat up there and said they weren't.
That's a lot more culpability than a mistake surrounding the details of an unplanned disaster like a plane crash.
Remember your rule of P's
Proper Planning Prevents Piss Poor Performance
The Oakland PD got is ass backwards.
Piss Poor Planning Prevented Proper Performance.
The only thing your plane crash scenario and this had in common is they were both disasters.
I'll give you credit for effort tho. You're still trying to protect and defend either incompetence or intent because evidence strongly suggests it was either one or the other.
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