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I'm sure there is a very scientific way to estimate crowd size...but someone must not be using it...so far I've heard 3,000 at the port anyway...I find it hard to believe an error in difference between 3,000 at the peak and 20,000 to 40,000.

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'd say by looking at your links 3,000 is much closer than 40,000 anyway...but my point is not the exact number but how someone is exaggerating one way or the other.

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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

So their intention is to close businesses so the people that are working can no longer work ? That's a great cause.

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In terms of your average lefty protest it was violent and kind of small, not even close to 1% of the metro region participated.

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

I infer from the article that the light was initially red. It turned green, and then, according to the witness quoted, the driver got frustrated and hit the gas. And the Bart oinks let him go?

Fuck that.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Anyone got reliable crowd estimates yet?

Ive seen 3000 and 5000.

A telling thing is that it's starting to have sympathetic rumbles in other cities.
As traditionally apathetic as this country has been politically, Things vould get interesting.

This:

•In New York, about 100 military veterans marched in uniform through Manhattan to protest what they called police brutality against the Iraq War veteran injured in Oakland. Marine Sgt. Shamar Thomas, who went toe to toe recently with officers policing activists in Times Square, said soldiers who risked their lives have the right to protest an economy that gives them a slimmer chance of finding jobs than most Americans

Is also a bit telling.

Here's the source if anyone is interested.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45134339/ns/us_news-life/

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: Hippiekinkster

I infer from the article that the light was initially red. It turned green, and then, according to the witness quoted, the driver got frustrated and hit the gas. And the Bart oinks let him go?

Fuck that.

If he had hit the gas while his car was surrounded by people there would have more injuries than that. But don't let common sense get in your way. We all know how much you hate cops.

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ORIGINAL: provfivetine

The numbers in Oakland will only continue to grow. Injuring that vet ratcheted this one up to a whole new level; the fuzz will get a lot of over-time because of it. This could be problematic because Oakland is one of those cities that has the potential to get violent. Unless something takes a turn for the worse in New York--where the protestors have been (mostly) cooperative given the circumstances--then Oakland will take center stage.

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

If he had hit the gas while his car was surrounded by people there would have more injuries than that. But don't let common sense get in your way. We all know how much you hate cops.

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Protesters struck by car

Two protesters were injured Wednesday evening after being struck by a car at the intersection of 11th Street and Broadway. The driver of the car reportedly had become frustrated by the protesters marching in the street and had tried to drive through the crowd. The first person sustained multiple injuries from the initial hit and the second person's leg was injured after the car backed into her.

Video of the incident appears to show the protester slapping the hood of the Mercedes just before being hit.

One of the victims was transported from the scene by ambulance. Both victims sustained non life-threatening injuries.

The driver was allowed to leave the scene after being interviewed by police.

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ORIGINAL: SternSkipper

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I'm sure there is a very scientific way to estimate crowd size...but someone must not be using it...so far I've heard 3,000 at the port anyway...I find it hard to believe an error in difference between 3,000 at the peak and 20,000 to 40,000.

If it's any help (or even if it matters... cause either way it goes down as the ONLY General strike in the US since 1946 I believe and that would be it's true significance)... But if it helps ... there's a picture on the prevous page ... That's the bridge contingent. My friends there tell me the crowd broke into 3rds and some went downtown, some went to the Port, and some went to the bridge.
  But it's more than 3k, there's more than 3k visible on that bridge. And something tells me you didn't see the aerial video before sundown... that was pretty dramatic.