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ColeYote -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 3:28:25 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam I know folks, your kink isnt my kink but hear me out here. Lately, Ive noticed some slave profiles popping up and I check them out (I perve profiles imagine that) and Ive noticed lately people who identify as slaves that state they will do NO housework. Have the Nigerian scammers gotten that stupid now? I mean, seriously, who would send relocation money to some overseas bint with the expectation that when the vacuum needs to be run or dishes need to be washed that she's gonna lay on the couch in a neglige eating truffles while you do it. But but but, you get a blowjob afterwards. (OK, maybe Ron would). Erm... why is this weird to you? There are not a lot of people, sub or otherwise, who enjoy doing housework. I'm (probably) a sub, I hate it. Granted I don't really identify as a slave as much as I do a pet. Still though, 24/7 appeals to me, I want to feel like I'm owned and I want someone controlling me. Also, I just hate housework, it's not exactly a "hard limit", but there's restrictions to what I'll do on that front. Dishes? Sure, that's like 5 minutes a day, not too inconvenient. Laundry? Takes like 15 minutes of my time every couple weeks, I can handle that. Mowing the lawn/shovelling? Again, 15 minutes, don't have to do it that often. But, and I'm probably about to make an ass of myself, I am not about to take hours out of my day to clean the goddamn house, you want it clean so bad, hire a maid, do it yourself or figure out a way to make it fun.

Hillwilliam -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 5:15:11 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ColeYote quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam I know folks, your kink isnt my kink but hear me out here. Lately, Ive noticed some slave profiles popping up and I check them out (I perve profiles imagine that) and Ive noticed lately people who identify as slaves that state they will do NO housework. Have the Nigerian scammers gotten that stupid now? I mean, seriously, who would send relocation money to some overseas bint with the expectation that when the vacuum needs to be run or dishes need to be washed that she's gonna lay on the couch in a neglige eating truffles while you do it. But but but, you get a blowjob afterwards. (OK, maybe Ron would). Erm... why is this weird to you? There are not a lot of people, sub or otherwise, who enjoy doing housework. I'm (probably) a sub, I hate it. Granted I don't really identify as a slave as much as I do a pet. Still though, 24/7 appeals to me, I want to feel like I'm owned and I want someone controlling me. Also, I just hate housework, it's not exactly a "hard limit", but there's restrictions to what I'll do on that front. Dishes? Sure, that's like 5 minutes a day, not too inconvenient. Laundry? Takes like 15 minutes of my time every couple weeks, I can handle that. Mowing the lawn/shovelling? Again, 15 minutes, don't have to do it that often. But, and I'm probably about to make an ass of myself, I am not about to take hours out of my day to clean the goddamn house, you want it clean so bad, hire a maid, do it yourself or figure out a way to make it fun. I wouldn't find that limit unusual in a sub but I do in a slave (there's a difference between the 2). As I said. If it is a live-in situation it has to be done by someone. That someone is either the Master or the slave. Can you see any Master running a vacuum while his slave sits on the couch eating bon bons and watching soaps? I can't.

TheFireWithinMe -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 5:36:21 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt a submissive has autonomy except in those areas where she has ceded it to her dominant, a slave has autonomy only in those areas where her owner has granted it. Reasons why I love Hannah. She always goes for the jugular, and as such is always on point. Thank you, Hanners. This should be stickied somewhere for the next time someone asks about the difference between a sub and a slave. susinct and easy to understand.

HannahLynn -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 6:57:41 PM)
quote: So if refusing to pay for education isn't one hell of an influence on your educational choices, then what is? its a potential influence, one they have chosen not to exercise. and also something nobody has even tried to dispute, question, or deny. so i find myself wondering why you would feel the need to point it out. quote: Because if they don't pay for it, you don't get to go. um, not fucking quite. http://www.afe.gouv.qc.ca/en/index.asp https://osap.gov.on.ca/OSAPPortal a little knowledge before fucking posting shit might help with the public image there puddles. e2a: christ on a cupcake woman! now that i think about it, its got to royally fucking suck posting such utterly irrelevant nonsensical shit. i feel for you babe, i really do.

ColeYote -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 6:57:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam I wouldn't find that limit unusual in a sub but I do in a slave (there's a difference between the 2). As I said. If it is a live-in situation it has to be done by someone. That someone is either the Master or the slave. Can you see any Master running a vacuum while his slave sits on the couch eating bon bons and watching soaps? I can't. I think people try to be a little bit too rigid about the difference between a sub and a slave, but I digress. I agree, it's something that needs to be done, and it doesn't make sense for dommy to be doing it while subby's sitting on his arse. What I'm saying is if a dominant to me wants the house cleaned, he's going to do it himself (which, as we've agreed, doesn't make sense), he needs to provide me with a little more incentive to do it, or he needs to hire a maid. And it's not like option 3 is any kind of unreasonable, a maid in Toronto's what, like $78 a month (assuming place of residence only needs cleaning monthly)? There's people who spend more than that on coffee. (Retroactive edit) By the way, this is all in theory, I've never actually been in a relationship.

HannahLynn -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 7:03:50 PM)
quote: he needs to provide me with a little more incentive to do it you mean other than the fact that he fucking told you to do it and you're supposed to be submitting to him? so just what part of "submit" is confusing you here toasterboy?

ColeYote -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 7:05:32 PM)
Likewise, Ms. Wanderlei Silva, what part of negotiating are you missing? As far as I'm concerned, if you're in a 24/7 live-in arrangement, splitting chores is a thing to be decided upon in advance. Besides, it's not like a sub has to do every last damn thing the dom tells 'em to. 24/7 relationships are not all TPE relationships. On the other hand, the first sentence of your profile is calling me a fucker, so I can tell you're someone I shouldn't be getting confrontational with. (Retroactive edit) By the way, this is all in theory, I've never actually been in a relationship.

HannahLynn -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 7:19:43 PM)
well that sounds remarkably like your average run of the mill nilla setup, so where exactly does the fucking submitting come into things?

HannahLynn -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 7:21:00 PM)
quote: On the other hand, the first sentence of your profile is calling me a fucker, so I can tell you're someone I shouldn't be getting confrontational with. meh. unless you're a virgin, you're by definition a fucker.

MissImmortalPain -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 7:29:24 PM)
Could you please explain, in your opinion, the difference between a sub and a slave?

ColeYote -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 7:42:13 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HannahLynn well that sounds remarkably like your average run of the mill nilla setup, so where exactly does the fucking submitting come into things? The part where that's the only area I'm having that issue with? "Get me a beer," sure, "gimme a massage," fine, "get the laundry going," great, "clean the [insert room/residence]," you're shit outta luck. quote: meh. unless you're a virgin, you're by definition a fucker. Well... I am. Probably should've mentioned everything I'm saying about relationships for me is in theory earlier... quote: ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain Could you please explain, in your opinion, the difference between a sub and a slave? Iffy.

MissImmortalPain -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 8:07:33 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ColeYote quote: ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain Could you please explain, in your opinion, the difference between a sub and a slave? Iffy. Does this mean the difference is "iffy" or that you can not answer my question? Sorry but I do not understand this as an answer.

HannahLynn -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 8:14:09 PM)
quote: Well... I am. aw shit man, that sucks. sorry. quote: Probably should've mentioned everything I'm saying about relationships for me is in theory earlier... ah probably, but me being me i probably would have been fucking harder on you. anyway, here's the thing, "negotiation" isn't always a matter of a lot of back and forth, give and take shit. it depends on the dominant how it plays out. with me it is pretty much a take it or leave it deal. i tell you how it is going to work, and you pretty much either agree or not. and sorry, but housework is part of the fucking dealio, if you say no to housework, i'll thank you for coming by and show you to the door.

ColeYote -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 9:00:51 PM)
O noes, I don't meet your requirements. << Gay male, ineligible anyway. quote: ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain Does this mean the difference is "iffy" or that you can not answer my question? Sorry but I do not understand this as an answer. I mean the difference is iffy. Again, BDSM is the last thing I think should be done by the book, so to me, it's subject to individual interpretation.

MissImmortalPain -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 9:27:47 PM)
You know I have heard a lot of people say that about a great many things and all it ever makes me think is.....Lord I love geeks, and nerds, and techs that demand one makes themself clear and do things by the book. I understand why you say what you do(there is no one true way) but again I believe that your thinking removes any meaning at all from words. And if words have no meaning than there is not point in talking and deciding what anyone wants or is willing to do. Something else you said up there in a post bothers me the more I come back to this. You said if someone told you go cleaninsert room here they would be "shit out of luck" It bothers me because this is my home. If I let you in it than told you to clean your room and you told me no.....I woud toss you out on the street rather quickly. ETA- I should admit that you saying you are ineligible for what Hanna wants because you are gay/male seems odd to me as well. Do I need to go read her profile, or is it just about sex for you. I ask because I have slaves that I have no such contact with. What they would rather fuck has no impact on if they can be a slave or not.

ColeYote -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 9:32:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain You know I have heard a lot of people say that about a great many things and all it ever makes me think is.....Lord I love geeks, and nerds, and techs that demand one makes themself clear and do things by the book. But... I'm a nerd... quote: (continued) If I let you in it than told [sic] you to clean your room and you told me no.....I woud toss you out on the street rather quickly. That's the brilliant thing, though, I'm not trying to get in your home. quote: (still continued) ETA- I should admit that you saying you are ineligible for what Hanna wants because you are gay/male seems odd to me as well. Do I need to go read her profile, or is it just about sex for you. I ask because I have slaves that I have no such contact with. What they would rather fuck has no impact on if they can be a slave or not. It's not ALL about sex to me. Yes, sex is a factor. I fully admit to that. I could not happily be in a relationship without sex. I may or may not be hypersexual. I do not see this as a problem, and to quote the great wiseman Triple H, if you're not down with that, I've got two words for ya. But you know what? It doesn't matter, because I'm not emotionally attracted to women either. I am a sub. That does not mean I am YOUR sub. How many different ways do I need to say I am not compatible with all dominants?

MissImmortalPain -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 9:43:30 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ColeYote quote: ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain You know I have heard a lot of people say that about a great many things and all it ever makes me think is.....Lord I love geeks, and nerds, and techs that demand one makes themself clear and do things by the book. But... I'm a nerd... You don't seem like one , but perhaps we just have differing opinions on this as well quote: (continued) If I let you in it than told you to clean your room and you told me no.....I woud toss you out on the street rather quickly. That's the brilliant thing, though, I'm not trying to get in your home. It's cute that you want to be a prick about this but I was trying to let you know many people feel the same way I do. quote: (still continued) ETA- I should admit that you saying you are ineligible for what Hanna wants because you are gay/male seems odd to me as well. Do I need to go read her profile, or is it just about sex for you. I ask because I have slaves that I have no such contact with. What they would rather fuck has no impact on if they can be a slave or not. It's not ALL about sex to me. Yes, sex is a factor. I fully admit to that. I could not happily be in a relationship without sex. I may or may not be hypersexual. But you know what? It doesn't matter, because I'm not emotionally attracted to women either. I am a sub. That does not mean I am YOUR sub. How many different ways do I need to say I am not compatible with all dominants? I in no way implied you were mine. You wouldn't want to be and I wouldn't want you to be...we are more than clear and in agreement on that. I was not aware that ment we could not have a conversation. I was not asking to find out if you were compatible with anyone. I just wanted to understand your point of view. It was my error to bother wondering.

SuzeQ -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 9:46:15 PM)
quote: How many different ways do I need to say I am not compatible with all dominants? 473. Keep at it, you've got a ways to go.

ColeYote -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 9:49:00 PM)
quote: I in no way implied you were mine. You wouldn't want to be and I wouldn't want you to be...we are more than clearn and in agreementon that. I was not aware that ment we could not have a conversation. I was not asking to find out if you were cmpatible with anyone. I just wanted to understand your point of view. It was my error to bother wondering. Well excuse me for taking the implications that A) unstructured relationships mean nothing, B) being gay has nothing to do with romantic attraction, and C) existentialism and nihilism are the same thing the wrong way. Parts of that post were out of line, though, and I apologize. To more respectfully explain where I'm coming from; I'm unlikely to be with a dominant who expects me to routinely clean the place. Alright? Maybe I'll do it if I'm being punished for something, or it's made more fun in some way, but other than that, no go. As I'm sure you'd agree, it's a bad idea to date someone who's expecting you to do something you're not willing to do.

MissImmortalPain -> RE: Slaves with 'wierd' limits. (11/8/2011 9:56:05 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: ColeYote quote: I in no way implied you were mine. You wouldn't want to be and I wouldn't want you to be...we are more than clearn and in agreement on that. I was not aware that ment we could not have a conversation. I was not asking to find out if you were compatible with anyone. I just wanted to understand your point of view. It was my error to bother wondering. Well excuse me for taking the implications that A) unstructured relationships mean nothing, and B) being gay has nothing to do with romantic attraction the wrong way. Parts of that post were out of line, though, and I apologize. I do not think I implied either of those things but if there was a missunderstanding it should not have been that big of a matter. I really did only ask because you said you were "new" and it made me wonder how things looked from your point of view. oh and I would excuse you but you wouldn't like the excuse I came up with [:D] ETA- hahaha Freudian slip sorry hahaha

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