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Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 11:14:41 AM

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I realize that the following statement will be strawmanned to death but, going by the same sort of logic used by so many leftists on these boards this rests squarely on the shoulders of every OWS sympathizer there is.

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Occupy DC Protesters assaulted conservatives as they exited an Americans For Prosperity “Tribute to Ronald Reagan” dinner. This elderly woman, 78 years old, rode 11 hrs on a bus from Detroit to attend the dinner. After the attack she was taken to hospital with multiple injuries, a bloody nose which developed after the fall, and a large knot on her head. After x-rays and a CAT scan, she was released the following morning with cuts and large bruises.
http://nation.foxnews.com/occupy-wall-street/2011/11/07/occupy-dc-goons-push-elderly-woman-down-stairs

The same people who use Huffpo or thinkprogress for "news" sources, or who refuse to name their sources, arent going to like the site used for the video feed either.

But, "oh well...."

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 11:20:05 AM

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It doesnt show who pushed her down the stairs.

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 11:26:41 AM

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please show the precise moment she is knocked down. a couple of secs either side please
I musta blinked

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 11:28:53 AM

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This is what is WRONG with you Liberal Progressives you want Facts and Evidence. Just accept what Fox News said, that how NON liberal media works.

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 11:30:49 AM

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Yes Sanity...I'll bet this is really a tea party conspiracy... They pushed the old lady down the stairs then pointed at OWS protesters…bah ha ha it worked perfectly.

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 11:31:16 AM

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I watched the video feed. I didn't see her go down but that's bad location of the camera.
It's interesting that her clothes werent mussed, nor was her nose bloody as indicated in the article. Yes, I realize that develops later sometimes, especially in cold dry air like they have in DC now but I'm considering the slight possibility it was staged. Especially as she was attending a tribute to Ronald Reagan Dinner which I am guessing costs several hundred dollars/person but supposedly rode the bus. Round trip bus fare from Detroit to DC is $202 and airfare is $247 round trip. so why is she at an event that costs so much, rode the bus 11 hours when airfare is almost the same price? When I checked the Detroit-DC route, it is 15H 44 minutes, not 11 and that is the express.

Things don't add up.

Does anyone else smell a scam?

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 11:31:34 AM

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Plus this comes from FOX News, which has 'always' shown in the past to be 'totally' 'truthful' with its 'reporting'. That FOX News has 'never' held a political bent or motivation in its.....'reporting'. So you have a video Sanity of some elderly lady on the ground and injured? She could have slipped and fell, or some....conservative....pushed her and than blamed it on the OWS folks that were there. That too is just as likely as some liberal doing it. Or will you have us believe that conservative wingnuts are totally moral people, who would NEVER do such a thing for political points?

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 11:34:14 AM

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Where the fox nation story came from
Weasel Zippers
which claims afterwards
Update: Further uploaded video footage shows the second woman to have been brought to the ground by a conference attendee losing his temper and pushing through the Occupier chain. While it was clearly a mistake on his part, and wrong, it is also equally true that the dinner attendees should have been able to go to dinner at a public place without wild, aggressive people imprisoning them in a human chain as they tried to leave the venue! This is not protesting, this is physical intimidation and harassment. However, the older lady and others were clearly pushed by the occupiers over the stairs as other occupiers released their side of the chain.

http://weaselzippers.us/2011/11/06/uber-classy-occupy-d-c-goons-push-elderly-woman-attending-conservative-dinner-down-the-stairs/
OOOPTH

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 11:36:57 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam
I watched the video feed. I didn't see her go down but that's bad location of the camera.
It's interesting that her clothes werent mussed, nor was her nose bloody as indicated in the article. Yes, I realize that develops later sometimes, especially in cold dry air like they have in DC now but I'm considering the slight possibility it was staged. Especially as she was attending a tribute to Ronald Reagan Dinner which I am guessing costs several hundred dollars/person but supposedly rode the bus. Round trip bus fare from Detroit to DC is $202 and airfare is $247 round trip. so why is she at an event that costs so much, rode the bus 11 hours when airfare is almost the same price? When I checked the Detroit-DC route, it is 15H 44 minutes, not 11 and that is the express.

Things don't add up.

Does anyone else smell a scam?

That's were good reporting and JOURNALISM come in handy. To study the information and than ask the question from critical thinking skills "Is this possible? And if so, what is the likelyhood of those events coming together". This video doesnt provide alot of information. But than, FOX News has been shown in the past to edit and modify information to present 'their version' of the 'facts'. And I do believe its been confirmed that FOX News does not hire journalists but really psychotic people that care nothing for their fellow man (or woman or child).

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 11:41:50 AM

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What unmitigated and imbecilicly entertaining asswipe op. Perhaps you should actually look at the video, (where it can be seen clearly the guys escorting her from the dinner inside the building who were turned around and facing her on those stairs), pulled her down the stairs and missed throwing her under the bus (a usual conservative ploy) by several feet.

Did anyone see that?

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 11:54:35 AM

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Soooooo. Say it was not staged... would that condemn the movement? Maybe a better response would have been..." I hope she is alright and I hope to see further details on the incident. We would not condone any action that injures anyone”

But no… the first words… It doesn’t show who pushed her…show the precise moment she was knocked down…Please … Then we start analyzing how she came… how much this or that cost…blah blah blah.

Now when some were asking for more info on the Oakland head injury they were shouted down when stating there was not enough info… how hypocritical.

Damn I hate fanatics... but then again I am getting fanatic hating fanatics... no better I guess.

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 11:59:02 AM

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Great observations Butch

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ORIGINAL: kdsub

Soooooo. Say it was not staged... would that condemn the movement? Maybe a better response would have been..." I hope she is alright and I hope to see further details on the incident. We would not condone any action that injures anyone”

But no… the first words… It doesn’t show who pushed her…show the precise moment she was knocked down…Please … Then we start analyzing how she came… how much this or that cost…blah blah blah.

Now when some were asking for more info on the Oakland head injury they were shouted down when stating there was not enough info… how hypocritical.

Damn I hate fanatics... but then again I am getting fanatic hating fanatics... no better I guess.

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 12:04:43 PM

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So, if we look at the middle upper left quadrant at 0:26 (at the shout of let's go, the shaven head corporate suit thug from security is clearly seen pushing a fellow on the stairs facing the building down the stairs knocking into the old lady and she goes flying. So, the republican teabagging goons and thugs are clearly kicking the shit out of the old lady.

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 12:06:36 PM

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wah wah wah
Try again
Both of you
LMAO I Object to the bullshit being spread. Wether its a woman my mothers age or a teenager
Its a very questionable video, and doesnt show what it says it does
Im SO , sorry if you think we dont care about the old lady, but your assumptions are the problem and wrong as usual.
Im more annoyed at the various comments about bashing in heads of the OWS and threats of serious violence against the protestors, without any question of the lousy video evidence and what it DOESNT show
but carry on
you are doing yourselves proud
yuck

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 12:07:55 PM

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Honestly, if Fox told me the sky was blue, I wouldn't believe them.

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 12:08:31 PM

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This smells like the chick who carved a B on her face and said it was a black Obama fan.

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 12:13:21 PM

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She went home. I was addressing Sanity, not the woman. I never said she was faking, I never questioned the fact that she has no bloody nose..

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2011/11/occupy-dc-protesters-push-78-year-old-woman-down-cement-stairs-at-afp-conference-video/

Amazingly enough, its a much better video... I could not discern any occupiers around the woman at the time....

Now, why did the driver who ran over 2 people not get arrested?

Yeah, Butch, this is for you.

Why dont you try doing a bit more background before running off at the mouth. We all expect Sanity to do it.. I really had better hopes for you.

I understand you dont like these people... but two were run over... now what?

Here is MY background check...

http://articles.sfgate.com/2011-11-03/bay-area/30357984_1_mercedes-hits-driver-witnesses

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 12:13:27 PM

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What I don't understand is why sanity would show a video where at 0:26 it clearly shows the tebagging goons and thugs of the republican party throwing an old lady down the stairs. Is this the first incontrovertable evidence of the republican death squads in action?

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 12:16:13 PM

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because its on fox nation, probably also on drudge, malkin and coulters page, the fact that weasel zippers is the next up coming version of biggovernment, LMAO who admit that one person was pushed by an attendee not a ODC person is beside the point..
laughable just pathetic, but consider the source.
Fox nation has even less credibility than fox news

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RE: Video - OWS Goons Push Old Woman Down Stairs - 11/7/2011 12:20:06 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kdsub

Soooooo. Say it was not staged... would that condemn the movement? Maybe a better response would have been..." I hope she is alright and I hope to see further details on the incident. We would not condone any action that injures anyone”

But no… the first words… It doesn’t show who pushed her…show the precise moment she was knocked down…Please … Then we start analyzing how she came… how much this or that cost…blah blah blah.

Now when some were asking for more info on the Oakland head injury they were shouted down when stating there was not enough info… how hypocritical.

Damn I hate fanatics... but then again I am getting fanatic hating fanatics... no better I guess.

Butch

If she was pushed, it would damn sure condemn an individual. Just like the Oakland shooting. I don't condemn the police, I condemn the person that pulled the trigger if he did it with malice. (I think they should as well)

I'm just looking at inconsistencies combined with Fox's proven track record to smell a rat.

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