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Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/9/2011 3:26:46 AM

Taqtiks

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I am a hynotist working on honing my craft.
One area that I'm interested in exploring more is the art of creating a hypnotic BDSM experience through a 'waking dream' state.
I am currently looking for some volunteers interested in

*Hypnosis is NOT 'sleep'. You would be awake the entire time and retain memory of the experience.

*This is not some attempt to sleep with you. I'm interested in creating the hypnotic trance state and then moving you through a fantasy of your choosing.

*I cannot hypnotize you if you don't want to be...so please be a volunteer.

*PLEASE be local or able to travel to the DC area.

So what is hypnosis? Many answers out there but one that has been working for me is this:
If you've ever driven home and suddenly found yourself in the driveway with no real memory of the drive home because you were actively working on some problem or argument in your head, you have experienced a kind of trance state. You made all the turns, used the gas and all, but your mind was 'elsewhere'. With hypnosis we achieve that state on purpose instead of by accident.

I am also interested in non-BDSM hypnosis, but wasn't quite sure where to put that on this messageboard. I've helped with getting better sleep, pain management, body image, work relations, phobias and more.

If you're interested or have more questions, please post them here or email me directly. I'm happy to answer.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/9/2011 11:01:31 AM

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Could you please list your qualifications for hypnotherapy training and where you were trained as a hypnotherapist.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/10/2011 6:37:11 PM

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I had to really think about how to answer this one.

You're asking a question knowing that the answer is that even if I had a wall of certifications that many states don't acknowledge hypnosis or have any requirements for its use. So, you're really just trying to mess with me for no reason. Not cool.

Your question is as relevant as your qualifications and certifications to call yourself Mistress. At least I took a course and got certified to be a hypnotist. You just invented a screen name.

And I will be the first to say that I don't do "therapy". I'm not going to take anyone back to being 3 and fix why they got spanked. No past life regression. None of that at all.

I'll just end by saying I'm a certified Hypnotist. If you're interested, please drop me a line.
Thanks
T

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/10/2011 7:13:23 PM

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Hi.

That sounds so interesting. Sort of like some of the training we give subs. I'd like to know more about how you use hypnosis in BDSM.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/10/2011 8:19:47 PM

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I think MIP asked a valid question. I have never known her to 'mess with' anyone on this board so what isn't 'cool' is your assumption. Paranoid much?

When I do medical play, my partners are welcome to ask what qualifies me to do this with them.

When I evaluate diamonds, my clients are welcome to ask where I got my gemological certification, and how long I've been actively appraising.

When I do music therapy for senior and dementia patients, the facilities are welcome to ask where I received my training and prior experience to do so for them.

If someone isn't satisfied with the answers, they can simply take a pass.

So, if:

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At least I took a course and got certified to be a hypnotist.

is true, what course/certification did you take?

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/10/2011 11:33:40 PM

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So if someone decides to take you up on your 'offer', then you'll prove that you're qualified and provide references of people you have done this to before?

If so, then fine.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/11/2011 2:03:38 AM

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Taqtiks, let me explain what MIP is asking. Hypno, incorrectly done, can do significant damage. And it requires a lot of experience and training to do it properly.

Nobody has any objections to you doing hypno - we just want to make sure that you know what you're doing and won't damage anyone.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/11/2011 5:16:40 AM

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@DarkSteven (good name by the way) and all

I get it. I've seen the multipage thread on a similar topic and hope this does not digress into that here.

You are both right and wrong. "Hypnotherapy" done wrong would have that potential. But, there are many, many hypnotic applications that can be done without delving into that depth. Insomnia, better sleep, body image, phobia (what's that.. 2 minutes of an aversion exercise?), and so on can all be done quickly and without having to delve into the deepest, darkest corners of someone's mind.

I would like to think that I know my limits and I am very clear with the people that I work with on what I will and will not get into.
So, if it helps any, I stay in my box for the very reasons you and MIP consider. But to ask for a list of qualifications is, in fact, bogus. First, having the qualifications doesn't mean that you're any good at it. Next, in most states the qualifications don't mean anything at all because they aren't recognized by any state board. For all practical purposes I am currently a "Hypnotherapist." Personally, I don't call myself that because I consider that to be a higher level of ability and i believe in truth in advertising. I will be going for that certification in the spring through NGH. But, for right now, I'm just working on the 'small stuff' that is in my reach. Also, I do have an actual Psychiatrist friend who is a hypnotist and a Master Hypnotist that are both my mentors in this area.

So, maybe instead 'show us your papers" the better approach is just to say "be careful and be sure to stay in your area of ability".
Can't always tell through email but I am neither angry or sarcastic in any of that. Just responding to the query.

T

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/11/2011 5:21:39 AM

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@AFS
"That sounds so interesting. Sort of like some of the training we give subs. I'd like to know more about how you use hypnosis in BDSM. "

I'm just peering into this. I've done the usual party tricks of making someone cum from a handshake, making them feel like they are being spanked/caned without actually touching them, having their hands stuck to their boobs and so on.
What I'm looking into now is a waking dream state where someone could experience something through hypnosis that they might not be able to do in reality. Also I'm still working on triggers that extend beyond the immediate session.

The possibilities truly are endless.
Hope that helps.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/11/2011 6:35:32 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Taqtiks

So, maybe instead 'show us your papers" the better approach is just to say "be careful and be sure to stay in your area of ability".

I tend to agree.....to a point. My ability to be comfortable putting myself in a situation to be hypnotized rests, first and foremost, with me. In the same way that (hopefully) none of us would lock ourselves into a dungeon with someone who we have no knowledge or experience with save to see that he/she has a trunkful of potentially quite harmful implements, I would not allow a man to go "there" unless I am sufficiently comfortable with him, his experience, his trustworthiness and his personality. And yes, that could happen pretty quickly, depending on the man.

I've been professionally hypnotized and I can personally attest that if I've never felt comfortable with where it was going, I always retained the ability to pull myself out of it. I don't consider it to be any different or any more potentially damaging than, say, taking part in humiliation, or a mind-fuck, or an amateur helping someone to get over their fears. Everybody plays with each other's minds in different ways. Hypnosis is another way in.

I've also been unprofessionally hypnotized - somewhat. It didn't reach the depths of my professional hypnosis sessions but there was a true effect and hypnotic state and I felt very comfortable with the man talking to me and where he was taking it. I am sure that, had we continued, the effects would be even more strong and more deep. It's really quite amazing what the mind can do.

Since then, I've added hypnosis curiosity to my profile and I've gotten many offers, but no one has struck me as trustworthy and able as that one man. (And, to be honest, I kind of shy away from anyone who has "hypno-" anything in their username. I don't know why.) So that, I believe, is where my responsibility comes in. Just as in any activity, I have to trust my gut and weed out those that I know I could not be comfortable with. And there are a lot of them.

And yes, my hospital-employed, insurance-paid hypnotherapist used the same example with me about driving in a car and not remembering how you got somewhere as a hypnotic state. It happens more than we know.

So, I basically agree with you. Certification is loosely defined, and certification wouldn't mean a hoot to me. I would need to have a comfort level, papers or not.

BUT

....if you are looking for volunteers for hypnosis outside of a relationship - that would make me tread much more carefully. I don't know why, but the idea of being, maybe, one of a number of "subjects" is...well...icky to me. More science project-ish than, say, a couple exploring behavior modification through hypnosis. It seems more assembly-line-ish. If I were to agree to something like that (which I wouldn't) I suppose knowing your qualifications would then become more important because at that point, it's more business, not personal.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/11/2011 7:43:48 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Taqtiks

You are both right and wrong. "Hypnotherapy" done wrong would have that potential. But, there are many, many hypnotic applications that can be done without delving into that depth. Insomnia, better sleep, body image, phobia (what's that.. 2 minutes of an aversion exercise?), and so on can all be done quickly and without having to delve into the deepest, darkest corners of someone's mind.

You're actually incorrect. Hypnosis, even when done correctly can have adverse effects. The'Insomnia, better sleep, body image, phobia" means you could be masking real physical issues, cause panic attacks or depression, etc. Second, substituting the wrong word or phrase can have disastrous effects. It's the difference between "you will feel sleepy and relaxed when you go to the dentist" and "you will feel sleepy and relaxed when you're at the dentist". Lastly, understand it is possible to brush up against something neither of you knew were there without going deep.

You seem to have a pretty cavalier attitude about it. "Because I'm not doing hypnotherapy, it's all just easy and safe". I usually say that hypnosis is best left up to those qualified. But, I think you also need to show a little more respect for the things that can go wrong rather than just brushing them off.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/11/2011 8:34:33 PM

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@Oside

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You seem to have a pretty cavalier attitude about it. "Because I'm not doing hypnotherapy, it's all just easy and safe". "

I'm not glib. Nor am I cavalier. And you shouldn't assume that.
I have TREMENDOUS respect for the people I work with and the craft.

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The'Insomnia, better sleep, body image, phobia" means you could be masking real physical issues, cause panic attacks or depression, etc.

It also could mean that I'm not and that I'm doing it correctly. I think you're coming from a good place. And I appreciate it.

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I usually say that hypnosis is best left up to those qualified.

And that is why I stay within my box. There is a reason why nurses can do some things and doctors others. Both are medicine.
Again, not being facetious. I'm confident that I am working well within my bounds and experience.

Thanks again,

T

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/11/2011 9:31:02 PM

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I asked the question I did because I have an interest in the topic you brought up. I asked the question the way I did because I thought your answer would tell me something about you(and it did) If you need that explained note that I asked about your qualifications not your certifications. If my use of a large word (hypnotherapy) rather than one that would impy you were taking part n parlor tricks bothers you than that is your issue not mine. The fact that you tried in a childish way to draw me into a fight by using the word misstress tells me something about you as well. But if it makes you feel any better I do not call myself a misstress of any form and I have no interest in getting into the use of that word because it was not part of your topic. Now if you would actually like to have a conversation about the topic of your op could you do that rather than assume people are attacking you. I still have a little interest in ..where you studied, how long you have studied, what form you pratice, what you intend to accomplish within this "walking dream state"

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/11/2011 9:50:29 PM

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Ya know we seem to have a lot of hypno threads lately... It sets my mind to wondering if it's the same person starting them. Well since the OP wont show the papers for whatever reason. Would the OP be at the very least list "any" qualifications or level of competence in this area whatsoever as the OP is being so evasive on just what their " box of experience" is???

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/12/2011 3:22:34 AM

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@MIP

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I asked the question I did because I have an interest in the topic you brought up.

Then I wish you had brought up your interest.

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I asked about your qualifications not your certifications

Which I have provided.

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The fact that you tried in a childish way to draw me into a fight by using the word misstress tells me something about you as well.

Which obviously didn't work. You got me. Because it's plain to see that you were being completely above board by asking the question the way you did.

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Now if you would actually like to have a conversation about the topic of your op could you do that rather than assume people are attacking you.

"MY" topic was intended for people in the DC, Md, Va area and I think I covered a good deal of it already.
I have already received a few responses and I will go into greater detail with those respondents.

Beyond what I have already stated I have no intention whatsoever of putting myself up for your....or anyone's.....inspection.
I have already explained my qualifications, my intent and my target audience.
(Here's where I turn your phrase and say "If my use of simple words confused you, that's your problem not mine"...but that sounds kind of..what did you say? Childish).

Since you are neither in the DMV area nor intend to visit me you're really (and this time I'm not being sarcastic), why don't we talk about your interest instead?

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/12/2011 4:01:33 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: OsideGirl
You're actually incorrect. Hypnosis, even when done correctly can have adverse effects. The'Insomnia, better sleep, body image, phobia" means you could be masking real physical issues, cause panic attacks or depression, etc. Second, substituting the wrong word or phrase can have disastrous effects. It's the difference between "you will feel sleepy and relaxed when you go to the dentist" and "you will feel sleepy and relaxed when you're at the dentist". Lastly, understand it is possible to brush up against something neither of you knew were there without going deep.

Oh, for fuck's sake, not this again. What a load of absolute fucking nonsense.

Post hypnotic suggestion is primarily attitudinal, is very tenuous and does not override free will. Given the ludicrous scenario you've dreamed up, you're asking us to believe that a post-hypnotic suggestion is going to override someone's survival response and cause them to fall asleep while driving.

Fucking poppycock. That is a completely mental proposition and only the naive will believe it.

quote:

You seem to have a pretty cavalier attitude about it. "Because I'm not doing hypnotherapy, it's all just easy and safe". I usually say that hypnosis is best left up to those qualified. But, I think you also need to show a little more respect for the things that can go wrong rather than just brushing them off.

You've been watching too many fucking Hollywood movies - educate yourself.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/12/2011 4:07:04 AM

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Dude, you're kind of wasting your time. Subspace is a trance state induced in submissive women by dominant men. If you're not inducing that with your personality, then you're probably not strong enough for a woman to trust you anyway. Using an alternative induction to bypass that is - of course - possible, but it's something of a cheat and is pretty much guaranteed to result in problems down the road.

Aside from taking her deep and then running some creative visualisation, I don't really see the point. You could probably accentuate or otherwise mess with perception of sensation but I think it's fairly important you ask yourself why you want to do this.

If it's the power trip - that's a slippery slope. If you want the power, without the responsibility, you're the wrong person to be messing with someone's head.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/12/2011 6:27:25 AM

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ORIGINAL: SailingBum

Ya know we seem to have a lot of hypno threads lately... It sets my mind to wondering if it's the same person starting them.

Hmm...you're right. I guess I thought I was noticing them more since I have a newcuriosity about it.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/12/2011 10:38:04 AM

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I did not know that if I was not in the area that you would not want to talk about the topic. My interest was in what the longest amount of time you had ever kept someone in a tansic dream state and what you thought the effects were. And...

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ORIGINAL: Taqtiks

Since you are neither in the DMV area nor intend to visit me you're really (and this time I'm not being sarcastic), why don't we talk about your interest instead?

Could you tell me what this ^ means.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/12/2011 11:21:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain

I did not know that if I was not in the area that you would not want to talk about the topic. My interest was in what the longest amount of time you had ever kept someone in a tansic dream state and what you thought the effects were. And...

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ORIGINAL: Taqtiks

Since you are neither in the DMV area nor intend to visit me you're really (and this time I'm not being sarcastic), why don't we talk about your interest instead?

Could you tell me what this ^ means.

Hard to tell, but if I had to guess I would say it means he didn't come here for a discussion. He came here hoping to get hits on his profile and perhaps find someone new to play with. Now that he has accomplished that he is done with the thread and just throwing out random snarky comments.

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