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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/12/2011 9:16:20 PM   
Taqtiks


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Status: offline 		Wow...you guys are an absolute trip. This started as a completely honest and well-intentioned discussion...criminy.. OK...let me line you up one at a time.

@kaliko
Meant to respond sooner. I apologize. Yes, this is not a relationship/trust oriented event. This is hypnosis for the sake of hypnosis and giving back in the process. I've probably done 40 sessions this year. You'd be amazed how many people are just open to 'trying it'; which is really all I need for my purposes (practice). If I can help them with something relatively simple or easy to do, I do it in exchange for their time and trust.

@Awareness
Oh Oside being poppycock..concur
On why I do it...I never talked about subspace. I'm talking about simply doing inductions because I need to hone my craft and in exchange trying to help give them a boost in something they express as a need. That's it.

@MIP
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My interest was in what the longest amount of time you had ever kept someone in a tansic dream state and what you thought the effects were. And...
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ORIGINAL: Taqtiks
Since you are neither in the DMV area nor intend to visit me you're really (and this time I'm not being sarcastic), why don't we talk about your interest instead?
Could you tell me what this ^ means.


Wow...really? I asked you for your interest. You (finally) talk about your interest "My interest was in what the longest amount of time you had ever kept someone in a tansic dream state and what you thought the effects were" and then follow up with "tell me what this means" in regards to me asking you about YOUR interest. I'm starting to wonder if you actually read what I write in response.
OK..OK...first, I'll be honest..I have NO idea what a "tansic dream state" is. Didn't even come up on google. So yes, please enlighten me..and then someone wiki that for posterity.
Next, I've only done one waking dream (I like to call them guided dreams) which was an hypnotic sky-dive (her choice) and it lasted about 20 minutes. The result was that she (5 months later) carries this as a memory. She's done it. She can recall it completely and looks on the experience favorably.
I wish you had just started with that instead of muddying the water with what you must have known was a charged question. Or was I not supposed to realize it?

@thishereboi

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Hard to tell, but if I had to guess I would say it means he didn't come here for a discussion. He came here hoping to get hits on his profile and perhaps find someone new to play with. Now that he has accomplished that he is done with the thread and just throwing out random snarky comments.


FUCK YOU.
Had more to say but that seemed to sum it up without being snarky.


You guys have made this a completely un-fun experience. This is not your personal playground. Or, if it is, try getting out of here and into the real world more often.
This was my first post here and it got completely derailed by some bullshit and cliquish chit-chat.
Wrong wrong wrong.

T

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/13/2011 7:29:12 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Taqtiks
I can help them with something relatively simple or easy to do, I do it in exchange for their time and trust.

@Awareness
Oh Oside being poppycock..concur
I have a degree in psychology and have had courses that dealt in hypnosis vs. some guy that got a certificate, but I'm poppycock. Uh huh.


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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/13/2011 10:40:05 AM   
MissImmortalPain


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Status: offline 		Okay...the statement I quoted you as saying makes no sense. That was what I asked about. Again I feel perhaps we are gettng mixed up with the use of words. I didn't say dream state because being hypnotized is not the same as dreaming...or so I have been lead to believe. If me using the words you did would make this easier than I will. Do you think that this "walking dream" you put people in is anything like lucid dreaming? As to a charged question....I am sure that even you understand that a lot of people show up in forums saying they know things that might cause harm to others. I have to admit I have only in very few cases had someone react the way you did and it told me something about you. But again I feel if you have a real understanding of this than you could share information and have a good conversation rather than either of us getting touchy about the use of words.

About the jump that you helped someone take part in. Was it partnered jump? Did it have to do with a fear of hights? Does she jump now without you?

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/13/2011 1:21:35 PM   
Awareness


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I have a degree in psychology and have had courses that dealt in hypnosis vs. some guy that got a certificate, but I'm poppycock. Uh huh.
  You have a degree in psychology but you think a post-hypnotic suggestion can override the survival instinct.  Where did you get that degree from?  The back of a cereal box?

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/13/2011 2:43:27 PM   
Taqtiks


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The jump had nothing to do with any fear or phobia. It was just something she wanted to experience but figured she never would.
It was not a partnered jump.
Maybe it would be easier if you told me your qualifications and experience in hypnotherapy. Then I would know how technical to be in my answer.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/13/2011 2:44:54 PM   
Taqtiks


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What a coincidence. I have a degree in psychology (Univ of Md) and took some hypnosis courses too.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/13/2011 3:15:23 PM   
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Status: offline 		So, if you have the psych degree, I'm betting the courses were similar and they taught pretty much the same thing. So, you've just called that information poppycock.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/13/2011 3:26:29 PM   
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You guys have made this a completely un-fun experience. This is not your personal playground. Or, if it is, try getting out of here and into the real world more often.
This was my first post here and it got completely derailed by some bullshit and cliquish chit-chat.
Wrong wrong wrong.



LOLOLOLOL!!!!! thanks for the laugh !!! Now he's telling everyone what their personal playground should be ----> Thats some funny motherfuckingshit.
And then continues on to tell everyone to get off of here and live in the real world. LOLOLOL !!
go row your own motherfucking boat. Who are you to be telling anyone what they should be doing or how they should be spending their time? What the fuck do you know anyways? Seems to me like a whole lotta nothing about nothing.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/13/2011 3:37:50 PM   
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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/14/2011 4:27:55 AM   
Taqtiks


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Maybe a private chat would clarify things for both of us. I get the feeling we are talking past each other.

@Janah and Ninebelow
I get the feeling that you are only here because of someone else. Great..more of the clique. How about this. Instead of pissing all over someone else's thread...either contribute or leave it alone.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/14/2011 8:11:16 AM   
MissImmortalPain


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Status: offline 		I studied deep regression therapy for about four years in the early '90s. Most of it had to do with deep age regression which is part of why your "walking dream state" interests me. I did a lot of work with some people that got very deeply into parts of their past that they didn't know had as much affect on them as they thought. I know it may not be the reason you brought the topic up but for me it really is an interest in the lasting affects of hypnosis. The modification of the mind you might say. You commented about this and bdsm. I have an interest in the subjective nature of this and how if would/could lead the person/people involved. I am taking from what you said that you are only looking for a temporary amount of time? I could be wrong about that though. So could you explain how you would have such a session go on or if you think there would be a lasting impact.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/14/2011 3:39:43 PM   
MistressSnow


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Status: offline 		Many years ago I attended a munch that had a BDSM hypo guy. I am biased as I am a fem-dom and the hypo guy was a dom, so right off the bat I would not fall under for him. He attempted to put "under" the entire group. I noticed (no joke) nearly all the subs went under, and none of the dom/mes???? Anyway that is my two cents.

Have at it!!!!

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/14/2011 9:39:52 PM   
Rochsub2009


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Status: offline 		I'm sorry that I'm late to this thread.  Unfortunately, I don't log on here very often these days.  But I think I can get this thread back on track.

I know the OP personally.  He is NOT a troll, nor is he a newbie.  He has no nefarious motive for posting here.  Rather, he is a very experienced BDSM practitioner who has been a member of this board since 2004, though he has refrained from posting until now.  He is HIGHLY intelligent, and I think that anyone on this board would have great respect for him if you met him. 

Frankly, I haven't liked the way he has been treated in this thread.  I know that we've had quite a few whacko hypnosis threads around here, so I understand the skepticism.  However, in this case, it is unfounded.

I completely understand and appreciate the questions and concerns that many of you expressed.  Safety is paramount in all areas of BDSM.  So I don't think that the questions were meant to be as hostile as the thread unfortunately became (Although a few people did post comments that seemed to have no other purpose but to be snarky).

Bottom line:  If any of you are in the DC/VA/MD area, and are interested in experimenting in this area, I would encourage you to contact him privately.  I can't guarantee you that you'll click personally, but I can guarantee you that you'll walk away with a great deal of respect for the OP.  More importantly, if this is an area that you have an interest in trying, I think you'll enjoy the experience. 

As a side note, I hope the OP won't take this thread personally.  I would love to see him become a regular contributor to the boards.  But based on the way the thread has gone so far, I doubt that will happen.  :-(

Anyway, I hope this helps. 
-Roch


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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/15/2011 3:14:48 AM   
Taqtiks


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Thank you for the kind words...It's appreciated and good to 'see' you again.

@MIP
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So could you explain how you would have such a session go on or if you think there would be a lasting impact.

In reverse order.....the lasting impact would be a 'new memory' or rather a vivid memory of a very real-seeming dream. The topic could be on something they enjoy, a fantasized idealistic scenario, or something they might not do in reality because of real-life restrictions, danger or ummm questionable moraility. An example would be a woman that I had approach me about wanted to experience a gangbang. It's something she and her husband had talked about but she is unwilling due to lack of control, fear of AIDS, etc. We didn't do the scene yet, but through hypnosis she could experience her gangbang (favorably) without actually taking the risks that prevent her from experiencing it in reality. You can take that anywhere you want to go from pet-play to hard bdsm, to exhibitionism to extreme insertion to feminization to...wherever. So, back to your question...the impact is they keep the memory. In this particular application, I'm not looking for a cathartic experience or any kind of resolution. In fact, I would not even try this with something they aren't 'sure' they want to experience.

Back to the first question, the session would go quite along the lines that you already know: induction, deepener, (maybe another deepener), create the scene vividly in their mind and weave the plot (carefully). You just have to be watchful for mindfields (those dangerous things that distract them or could snatch them out of trance). So it's important to ask about phobias and to anticipate strategies to those things about which they have already expressed concern (ex. "you know that these men have all been screened for anything mental or physical that could harm you and that they all passed with flying colors. They are all here just for the goal of pleasing you tonight).

Without turning this into a book, that is one application in a nutshell. In all fairness, you have to be able to achieve a pretty decent level of rapport and trust with the subject to get them to allow you to take THEM on this journey.

Let me end by saying that this is only ONE application and not my ONLY reason for posting here. I just need people to work with to keep honing my skills. The more I do it, the better I get at it and I get better at it by doing it more.

T

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/15/2011 3:56:01 AM   
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****Janah and Ninebelow
I get the feeling that you are only here because of someone else. Great..more of the clique. How about this. Instead of pissing all over someone else's thread...either contribute or leave it alone.


Assuming an adversarial posture is far more common than not for many of the posters on this site. If it were not for ego stroking and crude but failed attempts at sarcasm many would have nothing at all to say. Frankly hypnosis in all its many varying states is widely and frequently used during debriefings by highly trained information extraction specialists. Interrogators trained by governments all over the world view hypnosis as but one tool in a highly varied chemical, mental, emotional, physical tool box available to them.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/15/2011 10:33:37 AM   
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@Roch
Thank you for the kind words...It's appreciated and good to 'see' you again.



Likewise.  I hope you get a few volunteers.  It sounds like it should be fun.

BTW, my apologies for the treatment that you received.  CM really is a great place (the message board side, NOT the other side), and we have some very interesting conversations here.  Hopefully you'll choose to stick around and see for yourself.
-Roch

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/15/2011 10:55:04 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Rochsub2009

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ORIGINAL: Taqtiks

@Roch
Thank you for the kind words...It's appreciated and good to 'see' you again.



Likewise.  I hope you get a few volunteers.  It sounds like it should be fun.

BTW, my apologies for the treatment that you received.  CM really is a great place (the message board side, NOT the other side), and we have some very interesting conversations here.  Hopefully you'll choose to stick around and see for yourself.
-Roch



In all fairness Roch, Taq set the tone at the very beginning of the thread with his response to MIP's legitimate (and innocent) question. Many posters tend to run with the OPs initial reaction/responses and it dominoes until everyone has their say. Nature of the message board beast. It has to run its course until clarifications are made, which they eventually were.

< Message edited by MistressDarkArt -- 11/15/2011 10:56:06 AM >

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/15/2011 1:10:04 PM   
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You guys have made this a completely un-fun experience. This is not your personal playground. Or, if it is, try getting out of here and into the real world more often.
This was my first post here and it got completely derailed by some bullshit and cliquish chit-chat.
Wrong wrong wrong.



LOLOLOLOL!!!!! thanks for the laugh !!! Now he's telling everyone what their personal playground should be ----> Thats some funny motherfuckingshit.
And then continues on to tell everyone to get off of here and live in the real world. LOLOLOL !!
go row your own motherfucking boat. Who are you to be telling anyone what they should be doing or how they should be spending their time? What the fuck do you know anyways? Seems to me like a whole lotta nothing about nothing.


quote:

****Janah and Ninebelow
I get the feeling that you are only here because of someone else. Great..more of the clique. How about this. Instead of pissing all over someone else's thread...either contribute or leave it alone.


It is a WARM AND FUZZY FEELING???? LOOK INTO MY EYES.... AND TELL ME ABOUT YOUR FEELINGS .....

and YET again ... you continue to tell strangers how to spend their time and what to do. Controlling much? Its people like you, that pretty much ensure that I do the complete opposite of what you say. Just cause that is obviously the RIGHT MOVE each and every time.

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/15/2011 1:41:41 PM   
Rochsub2009


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ORIGINAL: MistressDarkArt

In all fairness Roch, Taq set the tone at the very beginning of the thread with his response to MIP's legitimate (and innocent) question. Many posters tend to run with the OPs initial reaction/responses and it dominoes until everyone has their say. Nature of the message board beast. It has to run its course until clarifications are made, which they eventually were.


I agree.  There was fault on both sides. 

Hopefully, he'll get a few volunteers, and everybody will have a spanking good time.  ;-)

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RE: Erotic Hypnosis- DC, Md, Va area - 11/15/2011 2:40:11 PM   
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