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RE: Personal Income Tax Increases - 11/13/2011 11:02:32 AM

thompsonx

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

My argument was that if a country has a 18/19% tax on all income both corporate and private it will not be difficult to ballance the budget if you are not spending 2000+ times as much money on the miltary.
Now if estonia does ok on 18/19% with a tiny military budget how can the u.s. get by with 18/19% with the 2000+ times amount we spend on the military?

By cutting the budget... something Congress will never allow.

Congress does what the military industrial complex tells them to do.

It doesnt matter what country you use in comparison,

I used your examples for comparison.

we spend far too much money on military...

That was my point.

The last ten years have not helped one bit.

It is a pretty easy trail to follow back to the civil war...not just the last ten years.

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RE: Personal Income Tax Increases - 11/13/2011 10:33:42 PM

Aswad

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

So, as long as there are 'republicans' there is no hope, and that's not going to change.

Then why isn't Angurvadel severing necks in the morning and taking polls in the evening?

An extra blade would be welcome right about now, incidentally.

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RE: Personal Income Tax Increases - 11/13/2011 11:14:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

The problem comes when they try a modified flat tax... that never works and only serves to benefit the rich.

Correction: it only serves the entrenched.

Nowhere is that as apparent as here, where the rich were completely on board with the idea, along with the socialists and the liberals, but the whole thing got shot down by Labor and the beurocrats' labor union. They are the entrenched ones in Norway, whereas the rich are not. You have a business and politics model where politics and big money go hand in hand. We have one where beurocrats and labor unions and the labor party go hand in hand. The trick being that we're up to the fraction of people having a vested, permanent interest in a labor party majority exceeding a third of the voter mass while the labor party keeps increasing that pool of laborers, on everyone else's taxes, creating a mutual dependency.

It's actually kind of interesting, but ultimately frustrating, as they're a parasite on the whole. In communism, they are the healthy tissue, and load bearing. In the Norwegian model, they are a tumor being supplied by the healthy tissue. The US model seems more closely analogous to a hostage taking situation, but going with the existing analogy, most of the tissue is getting necrotic from hypoxia due to a constriction. In both cases, surgery is called for, but neither country has got the insurance in order. Flat tax and flat benefits are two very effective surgeries, but the patients aren't convinced being well again will pay for it.

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