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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 9:20:56 AM   
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You can't judge software without auditing its source code. Until the vendor provides it for examination, then we can just disregard any claims he's making.

Even then I think the underlying theory is flawed. People certainly express stress when speaking. Stress doesn't equal lying however. I would assume Bialek not being an experienced public speaker had to add stress to her statement. Cain is an experienced public speaker so his stress level was likely lower even if he was lying.

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 9:21:51 AM   
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There is only one test needed for two of the accusers, and they are both clearly liars. The test? Gloria Allred.

for the simple minded, it seems to work.For the thinking part of society, not so much

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 9:23:10 AM   
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I'm not saying the code is good or bad. Just that without an audit, whatever results it does give are useless.

For example, here's the source for arguably the most important code in the history of computing, if not the most often used.

http://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/coreutils.git/tree/src/ls.c



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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 9:26:45 AM   
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You are aware of his ties to Republicans.

And YOU are aware of two of Cain's accusers ties to Democrats in Obama's adminstration.

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 9:29:13 AM   
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Obama wasn't even on the radar when Herman Cain's behavior was causing the NRA to payout multiple cash settlements....

Face it, the guy is a creep. Worse than Bill Clinton.

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 9:50:28 AM   
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There is only one test needed for two of the accusers, and they are both clearly liars. The test? Gloria Allred.


How does she get in touch with these people, anyways?

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 9:51:55 AM   
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One word, Aylee. Lawyer.

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 9:52:33 AM   
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Its a vast left-wing conspiracy, obviously. 

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 9:52:37 AM   
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become a weirdo celebrity ball bustin biotch and you dont need business cards.
Weird follows you like poop on your shoe

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 12:02:16 PM   
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Worse than Bill Clinton.



LMAO. You get funnier every day.

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 12:03:16 PM   
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Its a vast left-wing conspiracy, obviously. 


The truest things are said in jest. All of this points to Axelrod.

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 12:09:56 PM   
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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 12:09:59 PM   
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You are aware of his ties to Republicans.


And what about his accuser's ties? Is (she) also a Republican?
I mean ties other than to a big check.
And look at her lawyer, is it Gloria Alread??? I'm sure she's doing this out of the goodness of her own heart and "a big check" has nothing to do with it, right?


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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 12:30:44 PM   
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Worse than Bill Clinton.



LMAO. You get funnier every day.


You don't think Bill Clinton is a creep?

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 12:40:58 PM   
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You are aware of his ties to Republicans.

And YOU are aware of two of Cain's accusers ties to Democrats in Obama's adminstration.


Yes, something conservatives have brought up repeatedly. Whats good for the goose is good for the gander.

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And what about his accuser's ties? Is (she) also a Republican?
I mean ties other than to a big check.
And look at her lawyer, is it Gloria Alread??? I'm sure she's doing this out of the goodness of her own heart and "a big check" has nothing to do with it, right?


One was a Republican, changed to Democrat, and hasnt voted in a decade nor donated to any campaign.

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 12:41:12 PM   
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Worse than Bill Clinton.



LMAO. You get funnier every day.


You don't think Bill Clinton is a creep?


Clinton was a sexual predator with credible accusations going back to his ignominious dismissal from Oxford and subsequent sexual assault at Yale. So far there has been nothing, zero, nada, credible in the accusations against Cain.

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 12:51:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

There is only one test needed for two of the accusers, and they are both clearly liars. The test? Gloria Allred.


How does she get in touch with these people, anyways?



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Bialek was also asked why she chose celebrity attorney Gloria Allred to represent her, another point that Cain raised in his campaign statement. Bialek said that others recommended Allred to her because of her reputation and told her, "Gloria's the best ... and she will walk you through this." Allred, also on the show, said she took Bialek's case free of charge.


http://nationaljournal.com/politics/cain-accuser-says-she-s-not-getting-paid-for-story-20111108

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And look at her lawyer, is it Gloria Alread??? I'm sure she's doing this out of the goodness of her own heart and "a big check" has nothing to do with it, right?


See above pops.

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 12:54:55 PM   
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So far there has been nothing, zero, nada, credible in the accusations against Cain.


Except two settlements... oh and those pesky complaints filed by those women.

If you are going to believe Clinton's women, you have to use the same basis for Cain.

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 12:59:19 PM   
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Clinto had a pesky stain on a blue dress that came to light.

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RE: Cain, Bialek and Lie Detectors - 11/10/2011 1:01:06 PM   
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Clinto had a pesky stain on a blue dress that came to light.



She will just claim that it was consensual, conveniently ignoring the feminist tenet that it is never consensual when the man holds a position of power. Dont bother servant, her "independent" thought and hypocrisy knows no bounds.

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