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RE: Dear Leader's Peace Prize - 11/16/2011 4:35:13 AM   
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I was actually a little irritated that he won the Nobel Prize. =p What did he win it for? Just for being there?



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RE: Dear Leader's Peace Prize - 11/16/2011 4:42:17 AM   
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I was actually a little irritated that he won the Nobel Prize. =p What did he win it for? Just for being there?



He won it for not being Bush.  It was the international community's way of stamping Bush with the seal of disapproval more than anything else.

That said, the thread was on Abramoff, and ABM sent it off topic with another incoherent diatribe against Obama.


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RE: Dear Leader's Peace Prize - 11/16/2011 4:43:47 AM   
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I figured he won it for being the first black American president, which I do understand is a big deal, considering our issues.
But at the same time, no one knew what his track record was going to be. What if he turned out to be lightyears worse than Bush?

edit -- p.s. back to Abramoff...


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RE: Dear Leader's Peace Prize - 11/16/2011 4:57:37 AM   
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IMO,he won it for turning America,a world leader,from a totrure state back to what she was pre-bush.As well,the war provocateur-state bush and the cons were pushing, back to the peace seeking/peace keeping roll we had before bush.

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RE: Dear Leader's Peace Prize - 11/16/2011 4:59:31 AM   
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IMO,he won it for turning America,a world leader,from a totrure state back to what she was pre-bush.As well,the war provocateur-state bush and the cons were pushing, back to the peace seeking/peace keeping roll we had before bush.


Nope.  The point of Lilly's post was that he won it BEFORE he had really accomplished anything.  Whatever his accomplishments, whether you disagree with them or not, he won the prize before he had done anything.


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RE: Dear Leader's Peace Prize - 11/16/2011 5:34:16 AM   
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Given that former recipients of the prize include the infamous Dr. Henry Kissinger, I'm afraid it means nothing very much.  Giving it to someone just for getting slightly more than 50% of US voters to back a very slightly left of centre platform - without, as Lily says, waiting to see if he'd actually carry it out, which he hasn't - is either meaningless or desperate.  Which is a pity, because the prize is a fine idea in theory.


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RE: Dear Leader's Peace Prize - 11/16/2011 5:43:59 AM   
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Another thing.... lefties, don't you feel just a wee bit insulted/uncomfortable that your Dear Leader won a nobel peace prize for essentially breathing? Anything? Does it register with you people? Hello? Bueller? Anybody?



Pst... guess what... you are a couple of years late, bud. The rest of us acknowledged that when it happened.

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RE: Dear Leader's Peace Prize - 11/16/2011 5:50:25 AM   
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IMO,he won it for turning America,a world leader,from a totrure state back to what she was pre-bush.As well,the war provocateur-state bush and the cons were pushing, back to the peace seeking/peace keeping roll we had before bush.


What exactly did he do? And if he turned American into what she was prebush back then, why is it so fucked up now? Are you suggesting he fixed everything and then screwed it up again?


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RE: Dear Leader's Peace Prize - 11/16/2011 5:52:51 AM   
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What boi said. We have a LONG way to go before we are back to where we were preBush.

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RE: Dear Leader's Peace Prize - 11/16/2011 6:00:59 AM   
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I think he may have meant in the ways of international diplomacy.

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RE: Dear Leader's Peace Prize - 11/16/2011 10:26:56 AM   
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I think he may have meant in the ways of international diplomacy.


So you are saying that Obama turned things around in the 1st month that he was president?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Nobel_Peace_Prize

The five members of the Nobel Committee are appointed by the Norwegian Parliament to roughly reflect the party makeup of that body. The 2009 Committee comprised two members of the Norwegian Labor Party, one from the left-wing Socialist Left Party, one from the Conservative Party of Norway and one from the right-wing Progress Party. The chairman of the Committee was Thorbjørn Jagland, former Norwegian Labor Party prime minister and Secretary General of the Council of Europe since September 29, 2009. The panel met six or seven times in 2009, beginning several weeks after the February 1 nomination deadline. The winner was chosen unanimously on October 5.[13] but was initially opposed by the Socialist Left, Conservative and Progress Party members until strongly persuaded by Jagland.[14]


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RE: One of the GOP's Greatest Men Profiled On 60 Minutes - 11/16/2011 11:11:04 AM   
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is something wrong with this thread... I post and it ends up in a different thread..


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RE: Dear Leader's Peace Prize - 11/16/2011 11:14:36 AM   
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Given that former recipients of the prize include the infamous Dr. Henry Kissinger, I'm afraid it means nothing very much. Giving it to someone just for getting slightly more than 50% of US voters to back a very slightly left of centre platform - without, as Lily says, waiting to see if he'd actually carry it out, which he hasn't - is either meaningless or desperate. Which is a pity, because the prize is a fine idea in theory.


I agree, unless a Nobel prize is awarded for an achievement in the sciences... I don't get really impressed anymore.



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RE: One of the GOP's Greatest Men Profiled On 60 Minutes - 11/16/2011 11:22:18 AM   
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I understand that MSLA can get the left side of the spectrum's dander up a bit, but you got sucked into her baiting, and made it a partisan issue in fact, then.


MSLA is simply typical of the amplified and directed destructive attitude maintained by a small group... But if anyone owns them, it's the neo-cons here.
    I'm really not interested in having their 'style' explained. The style is intellectual dishonesty as Willbe likes to describe it. Least when he does it, it's entertaining as opposed to vulgar.

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You kinda did deny any Democrats "on the scale of" Abramoff, in your post I quoted directly above.  IMHO you might have better have phrased you request that Abramoff be detested by any "American", not just any "Republican". By failing to do so, you again hit the partisan "Republican's are such shits" button.


First let address the concept of 'kinda' ... I'm not particularly concerned with what I 'kinda' do when the group that angrily and repeatedly attack mine, or for that matter ANY liberally oriented threads with INSULTS as opposed to facts. So if you want me to enlist in a debate about my actions, let's make sure it's not a time when I 'kinda' do something.
Bottom line is when I say something intentionally to get in someone's face, there ain't no 'kinda' about it.
In the point you cited, I INTENTIONALLY threw out a challenge to someone that can only see in one color, red. Something the CONTINUALLY demonstrate post after post.And the post was CLEARLY a challenge to that person. The fact that other people got a rash from it? Not a real big concern for me.
Again, I made TWO separate statements at the start of the thread. And as always, I pick a provocative headline. My opening statement in this particular thread is PARTYLESS. And it expresses an outrage over the corruption this man engaged in. And YEAH, it's my opinion that if what he did to our government doesn't fuck with you, YEAH, you have something wrong with you.
But beyond that, I won't waste any more time pointing out to to people who CLEARLY are just out googling a bunch of shit about Jack Abramoff so they can make it GROTESQUELY PARTISAN, as they always do and then blame me for their fucking case of rabies... Well, let me know how that works out for ya, but I really don't give a rat's ass about the outcome, cause if it isn't me, it's whoever else they want to go off on.

This is in Response to Firm's last question of me before acute disinterest set in and a sorry excuse for a poster decided to turn it into a thread about his racist tendencies.
Anyway Firm I figured I owed you at least an answer.


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RE: One of the GOP's Greatest Men Profiled On 60 Minutes - 11/16/2011 11:28:14 AM   
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that she doesnt get anyone elses dander up is more worrying than anything
protecting it just makes it worse, and hypocritical
big shock eh

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RE: One of the GOP's Greatest Men Profiled On 60 Minutes - 11/16/2011 1:26:33 PM   
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that she doesnt get anyone elses dander up is more worrying than anything
protecting it just makes it worse, and hypocritical
big shock eh


I'll do a lot of things for a debate but being told 'I reacted' is well just kind of window dressing to me. Least I didn't give a lecture on curbing one's dog before yelling at the neighbors.



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RE: One of the GOP's Greatest Men Profiled On 60 Minutes - 11/16/2011 1:27:14 PM   
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RE: One of the GOP's Greatest Men Profiled On 60 Minutes - 11/16/2011 2:05:24 PM   
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Thanks for the response, Stern.

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RE: One of the GOP's Greatest Men Profiled On 60 Minutes - 11/16/2011 2:49:48 PM   
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Thanks for the response, Stern.

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Any time... You expressed yourself better and more reasonably than any of the people responding with their white canes out. I figured you should know how I felt.



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