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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/14/2011 8:11:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		No doubt GOP supporters are salivating at the choice before them. Who wouldn't be enthused by the choice between a bore, a buffoon and duplicitous philanderer who cruelly betrayed every woman he married?

It's a worry that these 3 morons are falling over themselves (and each other) in their rush to start another war - this time with Iran. Is there any evidence that any of them knows where Iran is? (No Herman it's not a place to home deliver pizzas) It appears that the GOP wishes to inflict a re-run of Bush the Dumber on the world. Hasn't anyone learnt anything from the disastrous invasion of Iraq? Hasn't it trickled down to the GOP that the GFC is a direct consequence of the doomed economic billionaire-friendly policies Bush the Dumber pursued for years?

It's OK for conservatives to yearn and hanker for a return to a mythical past, but someone really needs to tell them that a real return to the real past is impossible. Where does the GOP find such lamentably under-qualified, untalented idiots? Does it have an endless supply of them (noting Perry is still lurking in the background, no doubt trying to remember where he put his memory aid pills)?

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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/14/2011 8:13:25 PM   
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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/14/2011 8:25:03 PM   
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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/14/2011 8:52:41 PM   
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That's my 'tinfoil hat side' thinking.  I think the RNC actually wants Obama to win again so they can play obstructionist games for 4 years and take over in '16.

They don't give a fuck about the country (neither does the DNC).  All they want is power and we're just a bunch of pawns in the game.


Ya mean as in a great big conspiracy to keep us all at each others throats thinkin my guy is fightin for me and it's not his fault the place is fallin apart ??

So we're all a bunch of cheer leaders for a bunch of crooks who got us all duped ???


YES!!

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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/14/2011 8:56:36 PM   
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Romney/Rubio. Bank it.


I agree with Romney. Please explain your rationale for Rubio.


Secures Florida, pulls some of the Hispanic vote from the rest of the country. Bonafide social conservative to balance Romney's more centrist tendencies. Would destroy Biden in a debate, exposing him for the puppet he is.

One thing that a lot of folks don't understand is that there is no bloc "Hispanic Vote".

Hispanics in the US are about 20 different groups that in a lot of cases HATE each other.

Some of them are Bloc Republican voters (Cubans for example they would vote for Satan if he had an R after his name.). Some are bloc Dem voters and some are in between but they are far from a monolithic group. Noone seems to understand that.

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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/14/2011 9:05:05 PM   
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No doubt GOP supporters are salivating at the choice before them. Who wouldn't be enthused by the choice between a bore, a buffoon and duplicitous philanderer who cruelly betrayed every woman he married?

It's a worry that these 3 morons are falling over themselves (and each other) in their rush to start another war - this time with Iran. Is there any evidence that any of them knows where Iran is? (No Herman it's not a place to home deliver pizzas) It appears that the GOP wishes to inflict a re-run of Bush the Dumber on the world. Hasn't anyone learnt anything from the disastrous invasion of Iraq? Hasn't it trickled down to the GOP that the GFC is a direct consequence of the doomed economic billionaire-friendly policies Bush the Dumber pursued for years?

It's OK for conservatives to yearn and hanker for a return to a mythical past, but someone really needs to tell them that a real return to the real past is impossible. Where does the GOP find such lamentably under-qualified, untalented idiots? Does it have an endless supply of them (noting Perry is still lurking in the background, no doubt trying to remember where he put his memory aid pills)?


I don't know where to begin. Your entire post is full of hyperbole and nonsense.  We all know the story of Newt serving up divorce papers in his wife's hospital room while she was recovering from surgery. This is the baggage I'm talking about and I'm sayin he can overcome.  Even the daughter says the whole thing was exaggerated by the press and not at all what it was portrayed as.   You say "duplicitous philanderer who cruelly betrayed every woman he married?" Me thinks you exaggerate. Got any facts other than the one I just mentioned. 

You can say Gingrich is a " lamentably under-qualified, untalented idiot" but that's just nonsensical and absurd.  Gingrich is an intellectual genius. The rest of the pack doesn't fall into the untalented idiot category either. I don't even think Obama is an idiot. Like I wrote in the OP "Marxist hack" but certainly not stupid.

You say "these morons are falling all over themselves in their rush to start another war".  Once again morons is highly exaggerating and why can't they just go in and break a few things (knock out Iran's nuclear capability) and get out again. I doubt if these guys and Gingrich in particular are going to want a rerun of Iraq, nation building or any of the rest of it.


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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/14/2011 9:22:41 PM   
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Romney/Rubio. Bank it.


I agree with Romney. Please explain your rationale for Rubio.


Secures Florida, pulls some of the Hispanic vote from the rest of the country. Bonafide social conservative to balance Romney's more centrist tendencies. Would destroy Biden in a debate, exposing him for the puppet he is.

One thing that a lot of folks don't understand is that there is no bloc "Hispanic Vote".

Hispanics in the US are about 20 different groups that in a lot of cases HATE each other.

Some of them are Bloc Republican voters (Cubans for example they would vote for Satan if he had an R after his name.). Some are bloc Dem voters and some are in between but they are far from a monolithic group. Noone seems to understand that.


Then you have Puerto Ricans who many of those groups can't stand and they call them "snobs."
My nephew, while in college  is friends with many people from Spain. He said they can hardly tell what Mexicans are saying when they speak as (they) speak  "Andalusion Spanish' which is considered "real Spanish."
And he said that they said a lot of other things about Mexicans which I won't go into here.
Tonight on t.v. there was an ad for Rick Perry! He should save his money.


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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/14/2011 9:24:21 PM   
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That's my 'tinfoil hat side' thinking.  I think the RNC actually wants Obama to win again so they can play obstructionist games for 4 years and take over in '16.

They don't give a fuck about the country (neither does the DNC).  All they want is power and we're just a bunch of pawns in the game.


Ya mean as in a great big conspiracy to keep us all at each others throats thinkin my guy is fightin for me and it's not his fault the place is fallin apart ??

So we're all a bunch of cheer leaders for a bunch of crooks who got us all duped ???


YES!!


Ok.....I'll get out my tin foil hat and conspiracy theory books.  And I'm not entirely discounting your point either.  It's just hard to put your finger on the details. I don't think the republicans are going to throw this one though.


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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/15/2011 12:22:10 AM   
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His baggage won't hurt so much as Obama's baggage on the economy.  In any case he will overcome it.

Please say that ain't so Lucy.  Which candidate would it not be safe with ? I have concerns with him too but he's the guy who is going to get the nomination.


Exactly, When will Dictator Obama start acting like a dictator and fix the damn economy. I know he want to act like America is a democracy and all where the house has not passed one bill or brought one bill to the floor on fixing the economy. Hell the house had to show Dictator Obama that America is a democracy by re-affirming that "In God We Trust" is America's motto after incorrectly stating that E Plurabus Enum was America motto which it is NOT. Gees when will the damn Messiah get his act together and fix the damn economy and stop waiting for the house to give him a Economy bill to sing. I mean all the House has been working on is Abortion bills after all.

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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/15/2011 6:07:46 AM   
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That's my 'tinfoil hat side' thinking.  I think the RNC actually wants Obama to win again so they can play obstructionist games for 4 years and take over in '16.

They don't give a fuck about the country (neither does the DNC).  All they want is power and we're just a bunch of pawns in the game.


Ya mean as in a great big conspiracy to keep us all at each others throats thinkin my guy is fightin for me and it's not his fault the place is fallin apart ??

So we're all a bunch of cheer leaders for a bunch of crooks who got us all duped ???


YES!!


Ok.....I'll get out my tin foil hat and conspiracy theory books.  And I'm not entirely discounting your point either.  It's just hard to put your finger on the details. I don't think the republicans are going to throw this one though.


I cant put my fingers on the details either but the utter ineptitude of the RNC over the last near decade seems to point in that direction. They're either the stupidest bunch of SOB's that ever existed or they have long term plans afoot.

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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/15/2011 7:33:40 AM   
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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/15/2011 7:43:22 AM   
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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/15/2011 12:43:31 PM   
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That's my 'tinfoil hat side' thinking.  I think the RNC actually wants Obama to win again so they can play obstructionist games for 4 years and take over in '16.

They don't give a fuck about the country (neither does the DNC).  All they want is power and we're just a bunch of pawns in the game.


Ya mean as in a great big conspiracy to keep us all at each others throats thinkin my guy is fightin for me and it's not his fault the place is fallin apart ??

So we're all a bunch of cheer leaders for a bunch of crooks who got us all duped ???


YES!!


Ok.....I'll get out my tin foil hat and conspiracy theory books.  And I'm not entirely discounting your point either.  It's just hard to put your finger on the details. I don't think the republicans are going to throw this one though.


I cant put my fingers on the details either but the utter ineptitude of the RNC over the last near decade seems to point in that direction. They're either the stupidest bunch of SOB's that ever existed or they have long term plans afoot.



RINO's,  the establishment eastern republicans for the most part are RINO's. Virtually the same progressive shit,  philosophy of government as the liberal democrats.   We need a real true to life fiscal conservative for president who can articulate conservatism and take it to the dems.  The American people are not all stupid.  They will get it when the right conservative guy comes along.

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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/15/2011 12:49:48 PM   
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RINO's,  the establishment eastern republicans for the most part are RINO's. Virtually the same progressive shit,m philosophy of government as the liberal democrats.   We need a real true to life fiscal conservative for president who can articulate conservatism and take it to the dems.  The American people are not all stupid.  They will get it when the right conservative guy comes along.


Hadda clean this up a bit because it was getting unwieldy. Your above statement reminded me of something I was told over 20 years ago. A southern Democrat will generally be more conservative than a northern or west coast Republican.
I scoffed at the time but it proves to be mostly true.
As for your statement "The right conservative guy" I'll agree to a point. I think we need the right fiscally conservative guy (or gal). I also feel that the government needs to stay the hell out of my bedroom, loving room and computer. The Republican party needs to quit selling its soul to the religious right and just worry about governing and fixing what's economically wrong with the country. Leave the social stuff to the individual. Isn't that what 'less government' is all about?

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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/15/2011 1:15:17 PM   
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RINO's,  the establishment eastern republicans for the most part are RINO's. Virtually the same progressive shit,m philosophy of government as the liberal democrats.   We need a real true to life fiscal conservative for president who can articulate conservatism and take it to the dems.  The American people are not all stupid.  They will get it when the right conservative guy comes along.


Hadda clean this up a bit because it was getting unwieldy. Your above statement reminded me of something I was told over 20 years ago. A southern Democrat will generally be more conservative than a northern or west coast Republican.
I scoffed at the time but it proves to be mostly true.
As for your statement "The right conservative guy" I'll agree to a point. I think we need the right fiscally conservative guy (or gal). I also feel that the government needs to stay the hell out of my bedroom, loving room and computer. The Republican party needs to quit selling its soul to the religious right and just worry about governing and fixing what's economically wrong with the country. Leave the social stuff to the individual. Isn't that what 'less government' is all about?



Yes indeed, my loving room is for lovin too...... But yes I agree. The republican party has been hurt over the years by issues such as abortion. I know women who seem to understand and agree with conservatism when it comes to budget deficits, national debt, spending too much on all the stupid shit we spend too much on and all the rest of it.  They are seemingly staunch conservatives one minute but then some freakin *man* comes along and tells em what they can and can't do about their pregnancy and they turn into flesh eating liberals.  Similar thing with gay marriage and even gays in the military to some extent.  I have an opinion on gays in the military but I do wish conservatives would get off the moral shit and stick to the fiscal stuff.

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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/15/2011 1:18:59 PM   
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RINO's,  the establishment eastern republicans for the most part are RINO's.



More of a New England phenomenon than "eastern".

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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/15/2011 1:30:16 PM   
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RINO's,  the establishment eastern republicans for the most part are RINO's.



More of a New England phenomenon than "eastern".

In my post, when I said 'northern' I should have said 'northeastern'. You're correct there.

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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/15/2011 1:33:30 PM   
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RINO's,  the establishment eastern republicans for the most part are RINO's. Virtually the same progressive shit,m philosophy of government as the liberal democrats.   We need a real true to life fiscal conservative for president who can articulate conservatism and take it to the dems.  The American people are not all stupid.  They will get it when the right conservative guy comes along.


Hadda clean this up a bit because it was getting unwieldy. Your above statement reminded me of something I was told over 20 years ago. A southern Democrat will generally be more conservative than a northern or west coast Republican.
I scoffed at the time but it proves to be mostly true.
As for your statement "The right conservative guy" I'll agree to a point. I think we need the right fiscally conservative guy (or gal). I also feel that the government needs to stay the hell out of my bedroom, loving room and computer. The Republican party needs to quit selling its soul to the religious right and just worry about governing and fixing what's economically wrong with the country. Leave the social stuff to the individual. Isn't that what 'less government' is all about?



Yes indeed, my loving room is for lovin too...... But yes I agree. The republican party has been hurt over the years by issues such as abortion. I know women who seem to understand and agree with conservatism when it comes to budget deficits, national debt, spending too much on all the stupid shit we spend too much on and all the rest of it.  They are seemingly staunch conservatives one minute but then some freakin *man* comes along and tells em what they can and can't do about their pregnancy and they turn into flesh eating liberals.  Similar thing with gay marriage and even gays in the military to some extent.  I have an opinion on gays in the military but I do wish conservatives would get off the moral shit and stick to the fiscal stuff.

Here Here.

What consenting adults do to get off in the privacy of their home is none of the governments damn business. I'm as straight as a Kansas highway but if 2 guys who are of age and committed want to get married, more power to em. (if 2 hawwt chicks want to get married, I want videos of the honeymoon)

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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/15/2011 1:33:35 PM   
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Romney/Rubio. Bank it.


I agree with Romney. Please explain your rationale for Rubio.


Secures Florida, pulls some of the Hispanic vote from the rest of the country. Bonafide social conservative to balance Romney's more centrist tendencies. Would destroy Biden in a debate, exposing him for the puppet he is.

One thing that a lot of folks don't understand is that there is no bloc "Hispanic Vote".

Hispanics in the US are about 20 different groups that in a lot of cases HATE each other.

Some of them are Bloc Republican voters (Cubans for example they would vote for Satan if he had an R after his name.). Some are bloc Dem voters and some are in between but they are far from a monolithic group. Noone seems to understand that.


what part of "some of" dont you understand?

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RE: Gingrich, Romney and Cain In Dead Heat - 11/15/2011 1:48:02 PM   
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RINO's,  the establishment eastern republicans for the most part are RINO's.



More of a New England phenomenon than "eastern".


Right, I  knew I was overstating that even though I said for the most part.  It's about half and half in Ohio from what I recall and I think the phenomenon trickles out to one degree or another into some of the other north eastern states.


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