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SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 1:22:29 PM   
DumbassSub


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Status: offline 		Not sure where to post this request, however i have been requested to research North American publishers that are with interest in sm and power exchange journal/stories that are real. Shall begin with Google and Amazon as my starting reference and to hope for knowledge and insight within the Collarme community for advice and reference.

In short Goddess intends to publish a book of Her exploits and of Her slaves former and current which include myself. At present Her main focus is on my previous exploits as Her slave and in what appears to be a commencing of future exploits and progression. Past exploits have been recorded in Live Journal which makes task much easier in that it requires only to edit and re-write in preparation for published story.

In that neither Goddess nor myself have undertaken such a project i am not sure where or how to start and seek advice and input. Has anyone else ventured on this path and what were the challenges and pitfalls? Are there specifics Goddess or myself should be aware of?






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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 1:24:43 PM   
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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 1:29:02 PM   
DumbassSub


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Status: offline 		No JanahX, that person was a Mistress i met on collarme a short time ago and replied to Her request for workslave. No relationship or ongoing servitude there... simply five work weekends in anticipation of sessions that mostly did not happen.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 1:30:20 PM   
LafayetteLady


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Status: offline 		I'm sure JanahX will have the same question:

So how long have you had your mistress then? Was this relationship in existence during that debacle?

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 1:45:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Is this a request to be pointed in the direction of wank fodder?

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 1:49:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		Goddess i had served a number of years previously. We connected well however a major personal event happened in my life creating some major changes. As such i ceased to serve. In conversing with Goddess again i come to believe that is where my comfort is and as we converse it seems that is path i shall again be on. The publishing aspect is something discussed a few years ago and planned for. Now it resurfaces again.


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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 1:51:13 PM   
DumbassSub


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Status: offline 		Ninebelowzero... if you could convey something constructive it would be appreciated.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 1:52:16 PM   
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Status: offline 		LMAO Sorry but hey ho. Yanno.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 1:54:21 PM   
LafayetteLady


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Status: offline 		Realistically, you need to consider that life events will continue and "major changes" could indeed come again. As such, do you really want to provide material for her to write a book?

Also, if she is successful in this endeavor, do you get to share in any of the monetary rewards that might come along with it? I get the whole "Goddess Worship" thing, but I draw the line in the idea of doing that kind of work (which could be substantial) and watching someone else get the financial windfall.

Logically, and especially given your last work in exchange for services fiasco, get this in writing up front.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 2:40:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		She is already with two years of material so much is place, problem is i am much too verbose and must edit it shorter. In addition to Live Journal entries She remains with Yahoo messages. Yahoo messages i long ago deleted at my end and hope i must not sift through those She has archived in that LJ commenced later. Also as personal issues entered LJ stopped but Yahoo aspects continued until finally fading. In that we discussed this previously some time ago and on board with it, i remain at ease with it. Only aspect that gives me concern is photos as every task was documented. Hopefully that aspect does not get incorporated into a publication but i believe it would not.

There were aspects of our relationship i prefer not to express openly as i am with no desire of a barrage of judgments, comments, accusations that have nothing to do with my request of input and advice. A post by January in Confusion/Resentment thread has so i prefer to avoid such judgments that incorrectly assume. As for other comments more facetious in nature i understand it comes with the territory.

To undertake task would have so that we in essence commence where events left off and to see where it goes. She is with much better aspect of that than i am. There is both a servitude and monetary aspect to it but i would not benefit from any monies nor am i with interest in such. I would prefer my aspect be totally from aspect of submission and servitude for Her benefit. I am happy with that. It is exact as You say... i would do it from the "Goddess Worship" aspect and as such i do not mind that She would potentially be with financial windfall.

Yes, i learned a lesson with my work slave escapade. That series of events i truly did not fathom. It was with a stranger, we shared no previous history and with assured expectations that were not forthcoming. Big difference here is Goddess is not a stranger, also She is with truth & integrity. We were with a history and mutual understanding. I was with no expectation of monetary gain when topic first surface between Goddess and myself. In that my perspective is from the "Goddess Worship" aspect i remain with no desire of monetary gain. If i can accomplish task, it is my gift and servitude to Her. If She can benefit from it, Her appreciation will be greater, my sense of satisfaction and accomplishment will also be greater. That's a win-win situation as submissive and slave that i am happy with. 

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 2:58:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Are you/her looking for a publisher, editor, or cowriter? Has the book already been written. Has she actually sent it out to anyone to see if there is an interest in how it is written?

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 3:52:56 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just received clarification. It is two part project. First part is to take selected stories from Her website(originally i had impression it was my events primarily on Live Journal) I am to take the stories and to edit them. These She will incorporate into a book for wish i am to follow through on so it published. Step two then becomes my earlier history with Her and my now ongoing aspects. In Her words... that is test and if it works we take you LJ slave and will make further entries slave. First we make a book with 10-15 stories of Me slave... and you will it do slave.

I am totally new to this process and unfamiliar with it, however i interpret we seek a publisher. It has not been sent to anyone to see if there is an interest in how it is written. Seems a logical first step.... admittedly something not discussed nor considered. It is planned to first take the current short stories on Her website and to edit. Then follow due processes in hope of publishing. Step two is then to do similar with my history past and ongoing.



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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 4:03:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		In the old days what you are looking for was refered to as a "vanity press"... now its called self publishing. i like the old name better.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 4:50:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Are you sure you're the best choice of editor? Your style is rather more prolix than a fiction/story reader would wish.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 5:37:01 PM   
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Status: offline 		Short of self publishing(which costs money) she needs to find someone that has an interest in what she is writting about and how well it is written. She can self publish if she wants to though the idea of paying to publish something that has already been given out for free online is a little odd. If the stories are on her lj for anyone to read than it is not likely anyone will pay for them. If she want to seek out a publisher it is very unlikely that they will want to speak to you in her place. I take it from what you have said though that this all means the "book" is not actually written yet. That should be what she is doing rather than setting you on tasks to find someone that will publish a book that she has not even created yet.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 6:40:04 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissImmortalPain

Short of self publishing(which costs money) she needs to find someone that has an interest in what she is writting about and how well it is written. She can self publish if she wants to though the idea of paying to publish something that has already been given out for free online is a little odd. If the stories are on her lj for anyone to read than it is not likely anyone will pay for them. If she want to seek out a publisher it is very unlikely that they will want to speak to you in her place. I take it from what you have said though that this all means the "book" is not actually written yet. That should be what she is doing rather than setting you on tasks to find someone that will publish a book that she has not even created yet.


Besides all of the above, and Lady Hib's comments about your style...not to be rude, but your writing on here is not without quite a bit of grammatical and syntax errors. Are your language skills/ability up to the task of editing.

As for the photos, regardless of all of your "servitude" desires, she couldn't publish anything without releases from you and if you don't want the photos published for all the world to see, that is your right, slave or not.

If this were to be a vanity press type of thing, is she going to expect you to take on those costs? Depending on what you do, it isn't cheap. In all honesty, I don't think there would be a great deal of interest with a bonafide publisher that is going to take on the expense of publishing this as a "collection" of her internet posts and internet messages. Should go without saying, but from a marketing perspective, "reality" in BDSM isn't all that marketable. People who buy a lot of that stuff (aside from the "manual" types of things) are going to be more interested in fantasy (think "Story of O" and the Anne Rice "Beauty" series).

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 6:43:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SimplyMichael

In the old days what you are looking for was refered to as a "vanity press"... now its called self publishing. i like the old name better.

That does have an excellent ring to it...

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 7:45:06 PM   
LookieNoNookie


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Hold on.....one second......I'm just trying to....uhhhmmmm......

You're over 40?

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 8:04:55 PM   
hausboy


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Status: offline 		Masquerade Press and Cleis Press have both published a lot of BDSM work.  My suggestion:  look at the published fiction that you have, and see who publishes it--they always have a snail mail (and now usually an email) address.

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RE: SM Publisher - 11/15/2011 8:47:25 PM   
DumbassSub


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Status: offline 		In all honesty Lady Hibiscus i do not think i am best choice. I feel honoured and privileged yes, but i do not see myself with the qualifications for such. I know nothing of publishing, in addition i do not see myself as skilled in the art of grammar... certainly not to the degree of others. Also Miss Immortal Pain very much opened my eyes which i am appreciative and thankful for. Makes me realize i may totally be out of my league here in where i am going and how i will get there. The words/insight She conveyed i very much appreciate and to reflects the awareness and knowledge... if not that, then certainly She is with a insight i very much respect.

Earlier today initially i thought it was my history and experience Goddess was referring to. With that i had a comfort zone. A short time later i discover it is compilation of slave experiences/stories already on website Goddess wants for me to edit, correct and find publisher for. It is new to me but i shall give my best effort and see what comes of it.

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