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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

And if you've never heard anyone tell younger people to stop sagging or stop showing thongs, or to chill out on PDAs, you must be living under a rock. I think you're being just a little over-the-top and misinterpreting what people are saying in order to make a point.

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ORIGINAL: SuzeQ

Well the reason I asked is because the other people wouldn't even know they had been exposed to any kink. I get asked if I am saved, or to accept Christ, or whatever regularly when I'm out and about, and I have never once thought to myself "Hmmm, I wonder if he is getting off on the humiliation of asking me that" (Though I will from now on. Thanks a lot OP!! [sm=fingers.gif]).

There's a valid argument to be made for things like flashing somebody, but not for that. I think her objection is simply that it is Christianity that is being played with, I bet that if the thread had been about Hindu humiliation she would have been coming up with silly ideas like everybody else. I can't prove it, we'll never know, and she'll deny it (and probably insult me at the same time), but I'm darn sure of it.

Would it be OK to have a sub wear diapers and have to interact with somebody in public without mentioning the diapers in any way? What about the incontinent person who has to wear them but also gets off on wearing them? Are they supposed to just stay home?

One of the things about the "exposing the public to our kink" argument is that the public has to be aware that they have been exposed to it for the argument to have even a semblance of validity, don't you think?

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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

The way I read the thread, most people are annoyed at the "off the wall" suggestions, not the more covert ones. Wearing a cross, or a WWJD shirt -- whatever. Reciting passages about submission at home -- whatever.
Going into the church and acting out -- no dice.

And if you've never heard anyone tell younger people to stop sagging or stop showing thongs, or to chill out on PDAs, you must be living under a rock. I think you're being just a little over-the-top and misinterpreting what people are saying in order to make a point.

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Is it really difficult to understand that using your kink to engage stranger's in an interaction is crossing the line?

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ORIGINAL: Kaliko

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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady

Is it really difficult to understand that using your kink to engage stranger's in an interaction is crossing the line?

This. (Damn you, Peon.)

I agree with RochSub that it is a subjective question. What I consider crossing the line may not be what someone else considers crossing the line. That's why I won't say whether merely doing something in public, without others' knowledge of what is going on, is crossing the line or not.

But to interact with somebody specifically with the purpose of having them play a role in your whatever-it-is-you're-doing? I can't imagine how that's not clear. I don't mean talking to them incidentally while wearing a diaper. I've certainly walked around all day with all kinds of crazy shit going on inside my bra and I talked to plenty of people. I was specifically referring to asking someone if they've been saved as part of her humiliation.

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

if I had no idea that there was anythihng *ahem* kinky about it, then no, I wouldn't.

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ORIGINAL: Kaliko

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ORIGINAL: GreedyTop

if I had no idea that there was anythihng *ahem* kinky about it, then no, I wouldn't.

But that's what I have trouble with. Does it really matter if someone knows they're being used in such a way? It's still disrespectful. I would be embarassed to be with someone who would use other people as their props and take advantage of their ignorance for our own entertainment value.
It's like gossip. Sure, if the person you're talking about never finds out what's being said, then it never hurts him/her. So...no harm done, then? Is it perfectly okay to use someone else in such a manner for one's own entertainment?

Okay...it's subjective then, I guess. I am widely over here on this side of the fence about engaging other people unknowingly into one's kink activities. I just don't think that's a nice way to treat somebody.

And I admit, the line can be fuzzy as to when it becomes, to me, obviously inappropriate. If I look at someone and am turned on by their ______ because I have a fetish about it, is that inappropriate? Well, then, jeez, I could never leave the house. But if I were to engage in conversation with them that led to a detailed discussion about their ________ because I knew it would get my (or my partner's) rocks off? I think that's crossing the line. Perhaps it's being passive versus being ...um...the opposite of passive.