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Teachers’ hefty salaries are driving up taxes, and they only work 9 or10 months a year! It’s time we put things in perspective and pay them for what they do – babysit!

We can get that for less than minimum wage.

That’s right. Let’s give them $3.00 an hour and only the hours they worked; not any of that silly planning time, or any time they spend before or after school. That would be $19.50 a day (7:45 to 3:00 PM with 45 min. off for lunch and plan– that equals 6 1/2 hours).

Each parent should pay $19.50 a day for these teachers to baby-sit their children. Now how many students do they teach in a day…maybe 30? So that’s $19.50 x 30 = $585.00 a day.

However, remember they only work 180 days a year!!! I am not going to pay them for any vacations.

LET’S SEE….

That’s $585 X 180= $105,300 per year. (Hold on! My calculator needs new batteries).

What about those special education teachers and the ones with Master’s degrees? Well, we could pay them minimum wage ($7.75), and just to be fair, round it off to $8.00 an hour. That would be $8 X 6 1/2 hours X 30 children X 180 days = $280,800 per year.

Wait a minute — there’s something wrong here! There sure is!

The average teacher’s salary (nation-wide) is $50,000.

$50,000/180 days = $277.77/per day/30 students=$9.25/6.5 hours = $1.42 per hour per student – a very inexpensive baby-sitter and they even EDUCATE your kids!)

WHAT A DEAL!!!!

Make a teacher smile; repost this to show appreciation for all educators.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Represented by one of the most powerful unions in the country and underpaid? Bullshit.

Add in their first class benefits and their average total comp is at least $75,000 a year and they have the best job security in the country. Calculating the hourly wage on a "per student per hour" basis is a nice little game but irrelevant. They arent doing piece work and they arent paid on an hourly basis. And in a piece that is supposedly supportive of them calling them babysitters is pretty fucking demeaning.

Pay for performance and the one's who are worth it will get paid more, and the vast majority who are slackers will get paid what they are worth....McDonald's wages, because that's where they would be working.

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For all of our professions. I've worked plenty of weekends and nights and didn't see any extra

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ORIGINAL: Iamsemisweet

Many of the teachers I know pay for classroom supplies out of their own pockets. I don't know any other profession where the professional is expected to buy work supplies themselves, and not get reimbursed.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

I never got reimbursed for nursing supplies either. But my costs we not on the same scale as a teachers. Sure, I could spend 200 dollars on a stereoscope... 200 on shoes... another 200 on uniforms... but they can be used over and over and over again, for years. And that would have been the cost for the best supplies... I could have gone much cheaper.

The supplies you purchase for your own use are to help you make your own job easier. What teachers pay for is to teach children.. much of which can only be used once.. and some typically only for that one year. $300 reimbursement? That can go quickly in just paper supplies and such alone.

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Represented by one of the most powerful unions in the country and underpaid? Bullshit.

Add in their first class benefits and their average total comp is at least $75,000 a year and they have the best job security in the country. Calculating the hourly wage on a "per student per hour" basis is a nice little game but irrelevant. They arent doing piece work and they arent paid on an hourly basis. And in a piece that is supposedly supportive of them calling them babysitters is pretty fucking demeaning.

Pay for performance and the one's who are worth it will get paid more, and the vast majority who are slackers will get paid what they are worth....McDonald's wages, because that's where they would be working.

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If they choose to stay on their own, kudos to them. We all do it. For all of our professions.

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I've worked plenty of weekends and nights and didn't see any extra. Are they heroes because they do it too? Well, then, I want a parade, please, since I spend many hours each week volunteering with and for children on my own time.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

But arent you complaining about teachers?

You stated something about them feeling "entitled".

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If they choose to stay on their own, kudos to them. We all do it. For all of our professions.

In my profession we arent allowed to work off the clock. Even by choice.

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I've worked plenty of weekends and nights and didn't see any extra. Are they heroes because they do it too? Well, then, I want a parade, please, since I spend many hours each week volunteering with and for children on my own time.

And this last part speaks to how you truly feel about teachers.

Im sorry.. I wont agree with you. I find your snark on this topic a little over the top.

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For arguments sake, though? Let's say I'm wrong. Let's say each teacher is expected to spend $500 on supplies every year. (At 50 teachers in a school, that's a large amount of tangible supplies in an ever-growing technological classroom, but that's beside the point.) The salary is now $49,500. My opinion of the fairness of that salary still stands.

Pretax. IF they can itemize, they may be able to write some of that off.

Im not expected to spend 500 a year on my supplies. I can, easily, to my own benefit. But I am not expected to buy band-aids, thermometers, bp cuffs, syringes, ect ect ect. But its ok for teachers to supplement the materials they need to teach properly? That has never made any sense to me.

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

If parents actually raised their children to be productive members of society, children could actually learn, instead of the few students needing baby sitters taking up all the teachers time because mommy decided her little darling "does no wrong".

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I was kind of trying to pull it off of the discussion of the purchase of supplies. I can say, with 100% surety, that teachers in my area are not expected or required to buy authorized supplies without reimbursement. I can say that until I'm blue in the face, though. It really doesn't mean that somebody isn't going to know somebody who didn't get reimbursed. So I was trying to say that, let's just take that out of the equation and say that teachers do have to purchase their own supplies. I still believe they're fairly compensated.

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ORIGINAL: YSG


[ Hardly, especially when you consider that a bachelors degree in any other field is worth at least $60,000 a year just in salary (not including benefits).