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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 7:02:31 AM   
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Since your profile mentions that you´re looking for a teacher ... I´m pretty damn good at demonstrating the correct use of the apostrophe. You definitely need some help with that ...


LOL

This site must be driving you nuts. I rarely use apostrophes. Just cant be bothered.


I´ve got a few spare if you want them

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 7:03:59 AM   
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lol.... sorry... edited mine cus you edited yours.

I dont use my own.... lol... dont know where I would store yours.

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 7:06:09 AM   
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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 7:09:36 AM   
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Tazzy, I´ll leave them here and you can dip in and out when you need one. Go on ... use them .... they´re pretty ... :D

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 7:11:10 AM   
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I never use apostrophes. In fact- its a signature typing quirk of mine.

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 7:12:40 AM   
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I will edit a post for typos more than once.... lol... punctuation? Naaaa.

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 7:21:16 AM   
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Right, I am off to form a breakaway republic. It shall be called Grammarland, and all infringements will be severely punished. All hail the great god Punctuation.

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 7:22:29 AM   
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You wont mind if I visit every once in a while, will ya?

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 7:22:32 AM   
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Tazzy´s pic gets a special exemption on the grounds of cuteness.

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 8:51:40 AM   
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You can journal about it like I do! lol

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 10:34:34 AM   
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I see that the vast majority of you have bashed my age and my authority. This is very common. I dont believe there is a set age to become a Mistress, and in my profile i do claim to want mentors to teach me to better my skills. But this thread has obviously turned into a pride issue and a worthiness issue. My servants tears were genuine and it is true that i questioned whether to punish him or firmly console him. If this thread sincerely offended you, i find that to be quite juvenile. If you think that mentoring a growing Mistress is insulting, then thats rather humorous.


Thank you for the email you sent. I am sorry if you were hurt by what I said, but I cannot say I am sorry that I took you to be something you say you aren't, because you did present yourself in a manner that assisted me in my conclusions or assumptions. It is only that, that I have to go on. As I said... most young ladies coming here claiming to be a princess or goddess superior, really have one interest and that is money. To assist in the assumption that many have are many reports that I have personally seen on the young people entering the sex industry in some manner and why they do so and to what effect upon their lives. Having the history I have, in working with a lot of young girls, pimps, prostitutes, johns, parenting, making life work and helping in crisis, etc. and seeing the effect upon their lives and trying to help them and protect them, I may have an added attitude about it all.

It isn't just a kink when it all plays out, a great deal of the time. However, there are also those that simply want the cash and it is there because there will always be horny men with different ways of wanting to meet their fantasies, etc and they will want young women for various reasons and will be willing to pay for what they cannot get without paying for it as well as having a kink or intimacy reasons for what they do. Knowing the ugly side of all of this, helps to taint my view of it all. You fall into basically a category... though I hate categories for the most part, that is sometimes the only way one can view it without being close to the situation. Trust me, I know I am in a category too.

There are times we get ahead of ourselves in life. We jump in wanting to really live, experience and explore and often don't know the pitfalls, the danger, the damage that can be done, the effect of what we do on our own lives as well as others. We tend to do more without a lot of knowledge or experience base when we are younger. While many believe all is fair in seeking happiness, how often do they think of the damages that families, friends and people we are involved with, will have to face and work through or be ruined by, when in a mad rush to appease some desire or experience? Having been on the other side of this and trying to save families and people effected by life choices some have made either by true choice or by no other choice and seeing the heartbreak and damage close hand... I have very firm opinions and attitudes about it all. We are not isolated beings and what we do often not only harms us or our life, but others. Because something is fun, doesn't always make it right. Because something that isn't always right in the long run doesn't mean it is all bad, but I will make the choice to error on the side of... be careful... thats a life you may be effecting.

You say you have been involved with some public events and watching other dominants and wish to have mentors. Being involved in a more personal manner with others rather than those here that you do not know, one could assume that you could ask these dominants to mentor you and I do hope you seek mentoring before actually getting out there in the game if what you do could have an effect upon your life as well as the lives you touch. Know a bit of what you are doing before you jump in and start making messes. I would say you jumped in a bit too fast if this is your kink, because of your post. First of all, your profile is only a few days old. You may have started this before this profile, but that is unclear. Now... you have an it... a pathetic guy that you are going to release. You don't know about his tears, what to do about them and you came to ask what to do. We can't always know what to do until we are in the moment, but if you really didn't know what to do in this situation, it suggests, since this is a fairly common type of situation, that you might want to consider more mentoring before you are actually running peoples lives.

Many men will play the begging, tears... oh no please mistress... let me stay with your superior self, I know I am a worm. They do so as part of the game and sometimes to manipulate. I guess many that are into its, worthless worms and being superior, might laugh and play along or actually believe what they are doing. You would have to ask someone more into that kink, if you will and that might have been what you were trying to do. However, personally speaking, you really need to examine what you are doing and why and see the pitfalls and have enough balance in what you're doing to know that you aren't hurting yourself or others because really... don't we all know... that people really aren't all bad or worms and deserve to be treated cruelly and as if they have no worth? Sometimes a kink can have a huge effect on a person and this is why some kinks are hard limits to people.

You having had two opportunities besides your profile to be known to us and both coming off in your proclaimed kink rather than an introduction is going to set some people off. Some will find no problem with it and some will. That too is part of what we do. We all may have some aspect of that and if we can't stand our ground in what we do without being hurt, wounded, ect. then we might need to examine things. For instance... I too have some challenges in what I do. Dom men for instance... some think no woman can be a real dominant. They attack, they try to position themselves to change/break the female domina and prove she is really a submissive, but hasn't yet met the right dom to help her see the error of her ways. If I am not able to withstand the things they say, meet whatever situation they present to me and not let it effect me... then I am not ready to go public with what I do and could be harmed by it or make mistakes. Then there are those trying to play with a woman simply because they feel entitled. If I can't handle them and know to some degree how to handle them or the situations that come up without it effecting me negatively then I need to back track and prepare. A man crying because I won't do something he wants or in taking a man on or releasing him... I best know to some degree what is going on if I want things to go well.

After your introduction, you had to have been given a clue as to how you were coming off and that not all here were into the kink you are into and how they respond. You had to know there might be something there to think about and consider how you would deal with it. Yet, you rushed in again with this thread. Another way to handle this might have been to read some dominant profiles, note who might be into the same kink you are into and contact them.

I encourage you to really think and examine yourself and what you are doing. Is this kink right for you? Will it bring about life events or changes that you can handle? Do you really feel men are worms or do you play a role? Find answers before you are out there, maybe causing harm to yourself or others. You don't have to be perfect at what you do. Most are not perfect in any manner... but you damn well can be pretty damn good at what you do and can offer balance and assurance that you aren't doing harm.


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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 10:55:23 AM   
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Why would you punish him? Is it not touching to have a guy who cares so deeply for you?

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 11:55:57 AM   
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One of my slaves cried because of the thought of being released from my authority. I wasnt sure if i shouldve comforted him or punished him.
Please respond to this thread or message me.
Dont be mislead, im a tough fucking women and i dont put up with bullshit, but shedding tears... Struck a peculiar chord in me...


There are some dynamics that rely on an emotional or a social distance. By emotional distance, I mean a type of dynamic described by this thread. By social distance I mean that it not one's place to expect the type of interactions or treatment one might expect from a peer or a companion but it is not devoid of affection. An example of this dynamic could be D/s between those who are sexually incompatible--gay or straight man serving a gay woman where there might be affection but with clear, disparate statuses. Perhaps the dynamics you describe draws upon one or both of the two.

Because there was the question of being dismissed, it leads me to wonder whether a mistake by the sub led to that scenario.

Also, some dynamics rely upon roles that differ significantly from how they generally interact socially. The roles could be to achieve a certain type of dynamic or to express dark SM wants. For example, dynamics I describe in the thread I reference above could rely on this air of emotional distance and a harsh, strict role. Once that air is broken, it could indeed break the dynamic.

Thus, the question about whether to punish or comfort could touch upon two points: (1) whether the tears should soften the response if the sub had made a mistake that merits dismissal, or (2) whether softening the response could adversely affect the dynamic. I do not know whether either situation applies to the OP and will speak generally toward these two scenarios for sake of discussion.

For the first question, it depends on many factors: the degree of transgression, the damage it has caused, whether it was a matter of judgment or character, more. I don't think tears are an automatic fix but genuine tears could represent genuine repent and it reduces to whether to accept an apology.

The second question is more tricky. The response of a submissive comes from the collective action of different components of the psychology of that submissive. The submissive has all components that humans in general have, including the component that wants to love and be loved, and the component that wishes for masochism and/or submission. Sometimes these components pull in opposite directions and striking the balance between them can be tricky.

Dominants also have these different components that come together. It is possible the OP's experiences have revolved vertically around the sadistic components, and that she is experiencing a similar pull in opposite directions by her different components.

If there is a pull between the different components, there are ways to proceed that simultaneously satisfy the different components. For example, let us consider a dynamic that is based on emotional distance. Suppose a sub is indeed in need of some comfort. One way to deliver the comfort and yet maintain the emotional distance is to give this comfort in an unconventional way, or a way that simultaneously draws upon compassion and sadism. For example, suppose a sub has made a significant mistake that merits talk of dismissal, and is crying. The dominant wishes to comfort him but does not wish to soften the dynamic.

Dominant: Come here. Bow and put your forehead on my feet. Wash my feet with your tears and beg for forgiveness. Stay there until I tell you otherwise. We can talk about this later.

This could be accompanied by one foot (or both feet) being moved onto the back. There is physical contact that brings comfort but it is all occurring in a way that is preserving the dynamic.

I give the scenario above only as an example of how one can simultaneously address different components. I do not know whether it would have worked in the situation described in the OP. Such a response could fail in some, perhaps most, scenarios. It becomes a matter of judgment based on the scenario, the dynamic, and the persons involved.

Cheers,

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 3:28:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: MissJaq

I see that the vast majority of you have bashed my age and my authority. This is very common. I dont believe there is a set age to become a Mistress, and in my profile i do claim to want mentors to teach me to better my skills. But this thread has obviously turned into a pride issue and a worthiness issue. My servants tears were genuine and it is true that i questioned whether to punish him or firmly console him. If this thread sincerely offended you, i find that to be quite juvenile. If you think that mentoring a growing Mistress is insulting, then thats rather humorous.


Oh please. Your "age" got bashed because at that age, you can't have "a good amount" of experience. You haven't had the time yet to gain it. You didn't make a post as though you were a young woman starting out and looking for advice. You posted intentionally to appear very experienced, and tough, tough, tough.

The responses you got were in response to the ignorance of your statements. Wanting to punish someone because he cried? Stating how you "encountered something new?" Kiddo at your age, nearly every damn day is "something new." Add to that your introduction post where you are looking for "pathetic" men to "worship" you and your profile where you feel a need to state how you like your vodka "neat," and well, you set yourself up for ridicule.

Even now, you question whether you should have "firmly consoled" him. What the fuck is that? You remain a cold hearted bitch while you pat his shoulder?

No one hear finds mentoring a young "growing mistress" insulting. However, when one is already so full of themselves and believes they know so much, all while blatently screaming their mistakes in writing, it is clear you aren't looking ot learn from women more experienced than you.

YOU are the one behaving like a juvenile. When you grow up a bit and figure out that you have much to learn about being just a human being (since your posts/profile indicate you have quite a way to go there), and want some sincere advice, come back. If you haven't continued down this deluded path of self grandieur, someone MIGHT offer you some advice.

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 3:55:40 PM   
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I did not see that part, ok she was not about to comfort him then!

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 4:00:44 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady
YOU are the one behaving like a juvenile. When you grow up a bit and figure out that you have much to learn about being just a human being (since your posts/profile indicate you have quite a way to go there), and want some sincere advice, come back. If you haven't continued down this deluded path of self grandieur, someone MIGHT offer you some advice.


Jeez, LL, she's behaving like a juvenile because she *is* a juvenile. Or, literally, within months of that, at least in its sense as a legal definition. She's of an age where people ordinarily grapple with the biggest things about personality - ego, warmth versus coldness; what being a good human adult means . . . .

I was a total arse at her age. Actually, I remained so throughout my twenties. Although even then I wasn't stupid.

But, yet, see how nicely I turned out? It takes a while, especially for women who, as we all know, mature more slowly than males. ;-)

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/24/2011 4:07:21 PM   
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What the fuck is that? You remain a cold hearted bitch while you pat his shoulder?
Why not? Granted, its not something I would want anything to do with, but if that's their kink, who are we to belittle it? Just because its not your thing doesn't make it wrong. The Domme as a cold-hearted bitch is a stereotype, but all stereotypes are based on reality.

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If you haven't continued down this deluded path of self grandieur
Pot, may I introduce you to kettle....

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/25/2011 1:31:13 PM   
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As a subbie type I have a specific question that hopefully Missjaq can answer, it's something that the older ones cannot but I would appreciate a response. Please answer if that's OK Miss Jaq.

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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/25/2011 1:54:24 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero

As a subbie type I have a specific question that hopefully Missjaq can answer, it's something that the older ones cannot but I would appreciate a response. Please answer if that's OK Miss Jaq.



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RE: Fellow Mistress needs advice about slave - 11/25/2011 4:04:59 PM   
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ORIGINAL: PeonForHer


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ORIGINAL: LafayetteLady
YOU are the one behaving like a juvenile. When you grow up a bit and figure out that you have much to learn about being just a human being (since your posts/profile indicate you have quite a way to go there), and want some sincere advice, come back. If you haven't continued down this deluded path of self grandieur, someone MIGHT offer you some advice.


Jeez, LL, she's behaving like a juvenile because she *is* a juvenile. Or, literally, within months of that, at least in its sense as a legal definition. She's of an age where people ordinarily grapple with the biggest things about personality - ego, warmth versus coldness; what being a good human adult means . . . .

I was a total arse at her age. Actually, I remained so throughout my twenties. Although even then I wasn't stupid.

But, yet, see how nicely I turned out? It takes a while, especially for women who, as we all know, mature more slowly than males. ;-)


Actually, while being a juvenile often is the equivalent to acting like and ass (one look around these boards proves that), the inability to properly respond to someone's tears is not simply a sign of youth. The acting like an arrogant know it all? Very much her youth talking. Her thinking she is "oh so special?" Again part of youth and I would imagine it is all the worse coupled with the headiness of discovering the whole domination thing.

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