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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 6:02:13 AM   
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That they stay together is the main condition of anyone who wants to adopt them, as they have been together all 5 years of their life since they were born together in Australia, and lived in Portugal, England, and now here without being separated once. They love each other, and freak out when separated.

If I'm understanding you, they haven't just been together with each other for five years, they've been with YOU for five years. You're their family. How do you think they're going to feel watching you turn your back and walk out on them? Nice new home, shit. YOU aren't going to be there.

I'm not trying to make you feel bad, I just want to make sure you're thinking straight. I admit, I don't understand the situation, what's possible, how temporary it might be, etc. If it absolutely positively has to be done, I'd go with Termy's advice. But first, I'm going to tell you a true story.

I once "had to do" what you're doing. And I honestly believed it was the right thing in the circumstances. Fortunately, a couple of good people took my pal. They liked him, and he was well cared for. He was healthy. He had a good home. And I guess anybody would say he was happy.

But every single day, when people started coming home from work, he would jump up on the window sill and watch. He sat there and watched and watched, until the last person passed. He didn't do that if I was home. Now he did it every day. Only the person he was looking for never came.

They had him a year. Then one day, he just put his little head down on his paws and died. I only learned about this afterward, when they took the trouble to find out where I was living and wrote to tell me that he was gone. You don't want to get a letter like that.

It ain't gonna happen twice, I can tell you. I'll find another way. I'll fucking make one. I know you're doing this because you love them. It was the same with me. I just neglected to factor into the equation that he loved me too. Maybe there's food for thought there.

K.




Even though it made me cry, i really appreciate you sharing your story. A lot of people don't realize that a lot of cats develop severe depression when separated from their owners. A lot of them go to shelters or new homes and just refuse to eat altogether until they pass away or are put on an IV/force feed, which only lasts so long. 

Most of the kill and no kill shelters around the country are over full and just cant take any more cats. The kill shelters will take them but in a lot of cases they are brought in and killed within 72 hours, i know this is true for the majority of cats that come into the NY ACC. A sniffle,sneeze, or depressive state is a death sentence.

If you have to re-home them please do make sure you follow the previous advice and charge for them(a significant amount as well) There is more than one documented case of people getting kittens and cats (And dogs and pups) off craigslist and then torturing and killing them. Even if its a low percentage, do you want to take the gamble?

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 6:24:38 AM   
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Several things I will reply too.
First, I have tried emailing bengal rescues, but its been a week and no response.
Second, I won't take them to a shelter, as they have no guarantee of being kept together.
They were born in Australia, which I figure is a bit far for a breeder to be of any help.
Kirata- Thats sad, I feel for you- though the cats have been together for 5 years, I haven't had them the whole time. I raised them from kittendom in Aussie land for a year- after which visa expired and I came back to the states to only get them back a year and a half ago. They have been proven to be happy in various environments so long as they have eachother.


As for why I can't have them anymore- Until I get back on my feet (literally) from surgery, I have been living with my father, for practical reasons. He allows me to have my one fluffball of a cat, but no others. I found temporary housing for them with my mother but I had only asked her for the 3 months the doc said it would take. It's been a month past with the end not in sight and my mother wants them gone yesterday. Something about them knocking things off shelves and sleeping in sinks- flea season didn't help.
At the moment she is keeping them locked in a tiny powder room which barely has room for the kitty litter and food, which drives me insane everytime I go visit them.

So far the best advice seems to be charging an adoption fee, and from what one lady emailed me on craigslist, asking for vet references from any potential families, and calling said vet.

Thanks for the replies, if you can think of any other good questions I should ask, let me know!


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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 7:07:57 AM   
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http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/bengalcatrescue/ That is the national rescue group on Yahoo, of which I am a member of, and they have been known to even get transport from other places arranged and "convoy" the kitties to a new home.

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 7:14:15 AM   
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Are the cats neutered? Because one of my
biggest concerns about finding a home for
purebred cats is a backyard kitty mill breeder
might get hold of them. Like most sociopaths
and criminals they're good liars and could get
a vet reference.
Two things I would suggest. Ask humane
shelters if they will give you a courtesy listing
on their facebook pages. I think you stand a
better chance of finding qualified people that
way than on craigslist.
You could ask the shelter to help you find a
rescue organization.
There are several cat rescue groups.
One called exotic cats rescue that helps
all sorts of purebreds find homes.



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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 7:14:45 AM   
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He allows me to have my one fluffball of a cat, but no others.


Are there other animals in your father's place? I really don't see the difference between one cat and three. (My ex had 10, which I thought was insane, but he managed with twice daily scoopings and frequent vacuuming.)

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At the moment she is keeping them locked in a tiny powder room which barely has room for the kitty litter and food, which drives me insane everytime I go visit them.


I hope you are visiting them regularly.

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First, I have tried emailing bengal rescues, but its been a week and no response.


So email again. Better yet, if there is a phone, call.

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So far the best advice seems to be charging an adoption fee, and from what one lady emailed me on craigslist, asking for vet references from any potential families, and calling said vet.


There you go.

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 7:59:46 AM   
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ORIGINAL: VideoAdminAlpha

http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/bengalcatrescue/ That is the national rescue group on Yahoo, of which I am a member of, and they have been known to even get transport from other places arranged and "convoy" the kitties to a new home.

Thanks, made a post on there.
Just wish I knew how to put a pic with it.
Been looking at some of their kitten pics.



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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 8:07:36 AM   
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For massive amounts of Miko and Wetpaw bengal kitteny goodness... The baby pics.

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/ankhofbast/IMG_1458.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/ankhofbast/IMG_1677.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/ankhofbast/IMG_1481.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/ankhofbast/IMG_1663-1.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/ankhofbast/IMG_1369.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/ankhofbast/kits044.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/ankhofbast/IMG_1725.jpg
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/ankhofbast/kits005.jpg

And when wet paw tried to smuggle over with me to America...
http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/ankhofbast/IMG_1672.jpg




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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 8:26:40 AM   
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They're beautiful cats.[:)
Bengal Rescue Network and Spot
and Stripe Bengal Cat Rescue have
facebook pages you could post on
their walls.
I'm about to go through a rescue group
to adopt a Siamese. I'm impressed by the
dedication of the people involved who foster
and find suitable homes for the cats.
They also educate people about the breed.
Best of luck and I understand you wanting
to keep them together.

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 9:08:40 AM   
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Write the owner of the group---they will give you step by step instructions on how to attach a pic and that will prompt them to take action possibly also.

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 2:59:48 PM   
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ORIGINAL: kalikshama

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He allows me to have my one fluffball of a cat, but no others.


Are there other animals in your father's place? I really don't see the difference between one cat and three. (My ex had 10, which I thought was insane, but he managed with twice daily scoopings and frequent vacuuming.)

quote:

At the moment she is keeping them locked in a tiny powder room which barely has room for the kitty litter and food, which drives me insane everytime I go visit them.


I hope you are visiting them regularly.

quote:

First, I have tried emailing bengal rescues, but its been a week and no response.


So email again. Better yet, if there is a phone, call.

quote:

So far the best advice seems to be charging an adoption fee, and from what one lady emailed me on craigslist, asking for vet references from any potential families, and calling said vet.


There you go.


It would seem to me to be the father who makes the strong distinction between one and three cats, and that one is his limit. Seeing that she is under his roof, like it or not, she must accommodate him. No all are as cat friendly or tolerant as you or I may be.

Personally, I could tolerate a sudden and temporary addition of 2 furballs, especially if they belonged to kin. Tho' painful and hard for some of us to understand/condone, he has a right to his rules, boundaries and limitations. He is the master of his home, and has the final say so.

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 3:07:45 PM   
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It would seem to me to be the father who makes the strong distinction between one and three cats, and that one is his limit. Seeing that she is under his roof, like it or not, she must accommodate him. No all are as cat friendly or tolerant as you or I may be.

Personally, I could tolerate a sudden and temporary addition of 2 furballs, especially if they belonged to kin. Tho' painful and hard for some of us to understand/condone, he has a right to his rules, boundaries and limitations. He is the master of his home, and has the final say so.


It is.
My father, much as I love him, has a very strong front on hating animals to the point of giving me Korean cookbooks for Christmas, and I had to wait for my parents to get divorced before I had pets as a child. My being able to have one furball at his house was something that shocked every person who has ever met him.
(But i have seen him pet her when no one is looking!)


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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 7:57:02 PM   
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My advice,make it clear to whoever that they are to return the cat(s) to you if for some reason they can`t keep them.Make sure it`s a forever-home.Make them sign a paper or something saying so.If only to make it crystal clear what your conditions are.

Also, tell them you want to follow up later to see that they didn`t sell the cat(s) to the lab for testing drugs and make-up on.Make them sign a paper saying they are NOT selling the animal to a research lab.It`s more common than you`d imagine and legal in most states.


Good luck

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 8:03:54 PM   
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I think 059 is onto something and I think taking it even farther would be a good idea. You are not selling the cats or charging a fee, you are renting them out. They are responsible for taking care of them and all and they come as a set. There is a one time flat rate lifetime fee for the cats. When one dies, return the live one and the corpse and get your money back. Make it a contract so they have to do it.

Although I'm not sure just how enforcable such an agreement is.

T^T

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 9:03:16 PM   
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How about advertising for a temporary home for them, if you see a light at the end of the tunnel in regards to getting out from under your father's roof?

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 9:28:50 PM   
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I have to put my 2 cents in here. I have a very long history of involvement with rescuing and re-homing cats. Your absolute best bet is to go through a Bengal Rescue or other similar group. Many of them can post on PetFinder.org, where there is a lot of exposure.  They also have the time and knowledge to properly vet potential adopters. If your vet has an adoption program, that is the next best choice. They will get the best care, but the exposure isn't as good. The hardest part of finding a home for an animal is trying to ensure that that pet will be in good hands. Charging a lot of money will discourage some people, but I could tell you many sad stories of people who paid a fortune for a pet but had not idea or inclination about proper care.

I adore Bengals and want to help you and them. I am very much involved with cat and kitten adoptions and have a detailed program set up. We are listed on PetFinder.org and have a Facebook page that features our available kitties. My staff are the best at making sure that all cats go to the best possible home. I'm also not far from you. CM me if you want to discuss having us help find them a new home. We also work with a number of non-profit groups who can cross-post on PetFinder.org.

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Note: Obviously this is in response to the OP. I still haven't gotten the hang of these message boards.


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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/24/2011 9:38:05 PM   
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BION,the cuter the photos of the cats, the better.Don`t just snap a phone pic and post it.People respond better to better pics.

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/25/2011 6:33:58 AM   
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Hows this for cuteness, all packaged and ready to go!
Another baby pic, so false advertising. Then again, wetpaw's a runt- so he has perma baby face!

http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/ankhofbast/IMG_1666-1.jpg

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/25/2011 8:50:15 AM   
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I think I have the adoption ad right. The one I had written before just came off way to sad.
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Do you find going to the bathroom a lonely experience?
Adopt these two and you will never be lonely or need a book to keep you entertained in the commode again!
When taking a bath- any bits sticking up out of the water count as islands to be jumped on- and you thought a rubber ducky was fun!

Introducing the bengal brothers:

Miko- His jumps will astound you! Make those tall people understand how shorties feel, with this cats amazing stare from above action. Never been shown, but has the quality and a sweet loving personality. The calmer of the two, Once he knows you he will use you as a bed on a regular basis. If you meow at him he will meow right back to correct your horrible pronunciation.

Wetpaw- apt to his name, you can expect him to attack his water then come walk on you. Patting you in the face with a wet paw seems to be his way of keeping you hydrated. He was the runt of the litter and seems to have a Napoleonite complex. Aggressively friendly, he will NOT be ignored and has a special bulldog walk to let you know who is in charge.

These brothers have been together since being born 5 years ago in Perth, Australia. They are world travelers, with more stamps on their passports then most people. They have lived in Portugal and England, and came to the states a bit over a year ago.
They are cultured with that friendly aussie temperament. Don't you dare say "Put another shrimp on the barbie" around them. They will steal your shrimp.

They had a clean vet visit as of 2 weeks ago, are fixed, and healthy with new rabies tags. Sadly, due to a surgery that is taking longer then expected to recover from, I find myself unable to keep them, and the temporary placement I had for them has run out.
My main concern is that they stay together in a good, loving home. They obviously love each other, and have never been separated.

Purely inside cats.
They are both 5 years old.
Very social with people- get along with younger playful cats. Never been introduced to dogs.
Not for anyone with feline allergies- their fur is somehow more potent.
They love water and to sleep in sinks.
Also love belly rubs. And you gotta love their spot covered bellies.

They will come with two huge cat carriers, as well as a cat tower if wanted.
I am not looking to separate them at all- due to feedback I have seen so far, I don't think that will be a problem.
Purebred, not sure where the papers are, but I think I have passports for them somewhere. And tons of cute baby pics I can mail.

Bengals as a breed are very vocal cats, they will talk to you, and let you know when they need food, clean kitty litter, or lovings.
They do not like laziness in these areas and will subdue you with cuteness.
Please let me know if you are interested. More then anything I am looking for a promise they will not be separated, and if for any reason you no longer want them or can't take care of them, I will be the first person you call.

God I love those bellies. Raspberries never never work as well as you would think though.

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/25/2011 9:01:04 AM   
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It's a beautiful ad, would read very well on PetFinder.org 

Please read my previous post, if you haven't done so yet. FYI, my group also has the ability to board cats long term (we do ask for a nominal donation to cover expenses, unless you want to continue to supply food and litter. I'm not talking about being in a cage continuously. they would be free all day with lots of people to be with, caged only at night. Think about this if it is possible that sometime in the foreseeable future you feel that you will be recovered enough to have them back.

There are details I have not included, to protect my privacy, but if you CMail me I will be happy to explain.

La B

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/25/2011 9:24:57 AM   
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Hows this for cuteness, all packaged and ready to go! Another baby pic, so false advertising. Then again, wetpaw's a runt- so he has perma baby face! http://i143.photobucket.com/albums/r160/ankhofbast/IMG_1666-1.jpg


Adorable!

But you are going to use current pics, yes?

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