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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/25/2011 9:26:44 AM   
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FYI, my group also has the ability to board cats long term (we do ask for a nominal donation to cover expenses, unless you want to continue to supply food and litter. I'm not talking about being in a cage continuously. they would be free all day with lots of people to be with, caged only at night. Think about this if it is possible that sometime in the foreseeable future you feel that you will be recovered enough to have them back.


Wow!

OP - jump on this!

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/25/2011 9:33:42 AM   
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IMHO...

CHARGE A FEE for the purchase of your kitties! Those who will pay prove that your kitties will continue regular trips to the vet, and they will be tremendously spoiled!
(I've found homes for over 20 cats...and only one was returned.)

HAVE THEM SIGN A CONTRACT? People don't wish to sign a contract, they wish to purchase and enjoy their new pets! It will make them feel like
a. You don't trust your own intuition as to them being a good owner, and
b. They should check their home for (your) surveillance cameras as soon as they walk in the door! <lol>

No offense to you... but if in fact your last post was of an ad you intend to run? I feel it reads too wordy, sounds desperate, and sounds like you are selling used cars!
Ads are meant to attract the reader... be short and to the point...and leave a way to reach the ad maker.
Opening with "Do you find going to the bathroom a lonely experience?" sounds bizarre to me. <sorry>

Where to place an ad? In your local newspaper or shopper. On the bulletin board at your veterinary service. On the bulletin board in your break room at work.
Make copies and ask your friends to put them at THEIR workplaces.

I realize you want to find the best homes and keep the kitties together. We ALL want only the best for our kitties. But we are human beings, as well.
If you are going to be this paranoid, then you shouldn't give them up...period!

Good Luck!
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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/25/2011 9:49:08 AM   
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I don't feel I am being paranoid at all. I am not sure where you got that from.
I have contact info at the bottom of the actual ad, but wasn't going to post my actual email on this site- I think that may even be against the rules here.
As for contracts the yahoo group Alpha sent me too sent me a adoption questionnaire I can send to prospective families that brings up a lot of things I hadn't thought to ask about. Such as the families beliefs on declawing. It has a contract bit to it as well.

As for the ad- It was intentionally a bit cheesy. I am going to be just as choosy finding a home for my babies as I was finding a man for myself.
That means someone with a sense of humor, cause my babies are troublemakers sometimes, and I want someone who will think it is cute when they sleep in a sink, not freak out over it being unhygienic and cat hair in their sink.
I want someone who wants them for their personalities, not just their mad good looks. ^^

I know, I know, they're just cats...
To you.


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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/25/2011 9:53:14 AM   
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I would so take them if I wasnt already owned by two (mutt) babies.. Ilove your last ad.. brilliant!!

Click.. I think someone with the sense of humor to giggle madly at her last ad would be better suited to Bengals.. IMO

I COULD be wrong..

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/25/2011 3:20:06 PM   
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Now that I have time, I wanted to share my experience fostering a friend's cat for 5 months. J had to move unexpectedly and sent out a facebook blast looking for a temporary home. Sounds like the first person who fostered the cat had a small place with several other cats, and they didn't get along. I had a big place with only one other cat, who was not my own, so I could devote myself to my foster cat.

Within three days, he was sleeping on my bed and within a week, he was following me around like a doggie. My housemate and I introduced the other cat slowly and they became friends.

I was really sad to give the kitty back after my friend got settled, but they'd been together 8 years and belonged together.

So OP - there's a fostering success story for you!

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/25/2011 3:39:58 PM   
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Yeah, you are a wonderful person for doing that!

Luckily my cats are whores and have been socialized to the point where they love all people, so I have no doubts so long as they are kept together they will integrate happily into a new home.
It's me who will be and is sad.

They had better withhold their special treatment of running to the door and presenting bellies for rubs when I get home for atleast a few months though!


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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/25/2011 9:30:14 PM   
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I have two beautiful bengal cats which due to various reasons I am having to adopt out. I tried a bengal rescue, but the people never got back to me, so I turned to craigslist.
I already have several offers to take the cats(I am sending them off with all their toys and cat tower and carriers), but have also been warned by several people that since bengals are a very expensive cat, there is always the chance of someone taking them, and then separating them for money, since I am charging nothing.
That they stay together is the main condition of anyone who wants to adopt them, as they have been together all 5 years of their life since they were born together in Australia, and lived in Portugal, England, and now here without being separated once. They love each other, and freak out when separated.

Any advice on how to find the best family for them? From the number of responses I have gotten to the posting I have choices, but have never had to give one of my babies away before, and have no idea what questions to ask potential homes.

The idea of losing them is very painful, but as they are right now stuck in a small bathroom with no room to run or play, I just want them out and in a good home together, even if it is no longer with me. Every time I visit them, they cry when I have to put them back, and it breaks my heart.



OMG....Beautiful animals....wish I would have know just weeks ago.

Just find them someone who'll love them......I can't imagine that'll be too incredibly difficult.

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/26/2011 8:43:29 AM   
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Why aren't you considering a longer term foster care situation? If you didn't know it was available before, you know now.

So are you still looking to get rid of the forever to a new home?

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/27/2011 11:17:02 AM   
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tolovetolaugh, I know the perfect home for them. They're my neighbors on the Central California Coast who just lost their beloved kitty to cancer. They're absolutely lovely people (both retired with plenty of time to give them attention). They would take them both, give them a forever home and be treated like royalty...cherished and kept safe and content. Best of all, since I can't take them myself, I could visit them!! I'll write you on the other side with their contact info.

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/27/2011 11:20:38 AM   
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Why aren't you considering a longer term foster care situation? If you didn't know it was available before, you know now.

So are you still looking to get rid of the forever to a new home?


Yes. This seems like it would be ideal.

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/27/2011 11:52:37 AM   
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I'm not in favor of charging money for them, as people who want a status symbol cat might be able to afford them but you will have no guarantee that they look after the cats the right way.

My 2 dogs and 2 cats are all rescues, I paid nothing for any of them and would have been seriously turned off by an owner who would charge for his pet going to a good home, they all have cost me a fortune in vet bills and are very well taken care of, I love Dobies, but I don't think much of breeders who put breeding standards above everything else instead of the animal's well being (and don't even get me started on the abomination of cropping and docking) so I thought rather than getting "brand new" dogs, I give dogs who need a home a home. The first dog, the girl, I drove for about 3 hours to just see, as the owner wanted to meet me first as all sorts of people wanted to take her due to her pedigree, some flaked out when they heard she's neutered, others seemed clueless about the needs of the breed or treated the dog too harshly. After 5 minutes it was obvious that she had taken a shine to me (she almost squashed me by sitting on my lap and licking me), I handed him a letter from my vet who said I take excellent care of my pets and spent a fortune on surgery for a pet rat the cats had caught and brought in, and that the little rat was as happy as a rat can be and even got playmates so he'd not be lonely as they are pack animals. I offered the guy to come back as often as required, offered him to check out my house and visit anytime in case he decides to give her into my care and asked him when I should come back. He told me to take her and I made a point of informing him how she settled in and to write him a thank you letter with pictures, then left it as that as I was sure it would be just make it more painful for him, he told me he appreciates that I took all doubts from him mind if the dog is well taken care of.
The 2nd Dobie was offered to us from the RSPCA, apparently a problem child who went through several homes, we didn't want another dog initially but he's now a beloved family member (and cat slave).

I'd recommend you do the same, meet the people in person first, grill them, if they can't be bothered to do that, how sure can you be that they make an effort to care for the cats and keep them together? You want to do what's best for your pet!

Additionally, you must have a regular vet, talk to him or her and ask if they would know somebody, they see first hand who treats pets well and would possibly not recommend somebody who's just in it for profit!

I assume you're in the US (as Craig's list isn't that popular on this side of the pond), but in case I'm wrong and you happen to be in the UK and you don't find anybody, let me know, I know a friend of mine and his wife love Bengals and would never consider parting with a cat, or I take them in, the dogs worship cats (to the point where they clean them and court them) and my 2 cats are quite used to other cats, as we sometimes have a "lodger cat".

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/27/2011 1:51:59 PM   
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I'm not in favor of charging money for them, as people who want a status symbol cat might be able to afford them but you will have no guarantee that they look after the cats the right way.

I'd recommend you do the same, meet the people in person first, grill them, if they can't be bothered to do that, how sure can you be that they make an effort to care for the cats and keep them together? You want to do what's best for your pet!


I am not in favor of charging money much either- I don't want to feel like I am selling my babies. On the other hand, I will be sending them off with over a months worth of food and litter, a huge cat tower, 2 huge cat crates and tons of toys, so if someone cant pay an adoption fee, I would be worried about how they pay the vet.

I do want to meet the people who take them in person. I feel like I am a fairly good judge of character, and you can tell animal people real easy when they interact with animals.
I have been sending an adoption questionnaire the bengal rescue group sent me to a few people who made themselves sound good from craigslist, but so far, no one has sent it back. A bit worrying. : /

MDA I really appreciate the thought and hope your friends are recovering well from their loss, but Cali is so far away the amount it would cost to get the cats to them, is about how much it would cost to buy two purebred kittens gas being what it is, not to mention driving time.
But now you have shown them bengal pics... the thought is in their mind and you can probably convince them to get some from closer for you to play with. =D

As for fostering vs giving them away- I don't have the money to pay anyone to board them : /





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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/27/2011 2:05:28 PM   
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Do what my friend did when she had to re-home a pedigree dog. She put an ad out with a decent amount of money as an adoption fee. She interviewed perspective adoptees until she found just the right family. Then she gave them the dog. Or you could take the money and give it to a no-kill shelter. : )

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/27/2011 2:17:44 PM   
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I am not in favor of charging money much either- I don't want to feel like I am selling my babies. On the other hand, I will be sending them off with over a months worth of food and litter, a huge cat tower, 2 huge cat crates and tons of toys, so if someone cant pay an adoption fee, I would be worried about how they pay the vet.

I do want to meet the people who take them in person. I feel like I am a fairly good judge of character, and you can tell animal people real easy when they interact with animals.
I have been sending an adoption questionnaire the bengal rescue group sent me to a few people who made themselves sound good from craigslist, but so far, no one has sent it back. A bit worrying. : /




How about you charge for the food, litter and all the rest? It will just sound different and attract different people, you don't want anybody who thinks "I bought them, they're mine to do what I like with them and what a bargain they were..."

A questionnaire might really put somebody off, when I was looking to give a Dobie a home, some organizations were having questionnaires that simply put me off because of how things were phrased. If they want to grill me about what I know about the breed I plan to adopt, how well I am prepared to care for them and all that, even checking out my home, not a problem, but to be honest in case I would ever have to part with any of my pets (I hope not), I would do what Kia's owner did, make them come and visit and see the dog, talk to them, make sure they interact well with the animal. It might sound stupid, but I think all our pets picked us (my other half said they recognized me as a soft touch and knew they would be spoiled rotten) and in the end animals have a sense for people. Meet them and let your cats decide, they will pick somebody suitable.

In case boarding for a while is a financial problem, maybe we could all help a little bit and you wouldn't have to part with your babies?

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/27/2011 2:37:30 PM   
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Should you find a prospective adopter (s), verbally or in contract, consider requesting and requiring the people let you make occasional drop-ins, to ensure the animal's care and content is up to snuff. Of course, you don't imply you don't trust them, but only want to visit the kitty you miss so much. I once had a lady take, promise to take care of, and promise to call me if ANYTHING went awry, as I would gladly guide her out of the problem, or if she chose, to immediately take the cat back (one I had bottle raised from being a day-old). It turned out her effusive promises were for naught, and had just about as much value as our present day dollar. I ran into her one day, many months later, only to find out she took the cat to the pound, when it began having accidents outside the box, which is interesting, as it had immaculate habits in my home (it was well-taught), and was not given up for adoption until it was 14 weeks old and mature enough.

I was astounded, and fit to be tied, as that was one of the very things I'd clearly educated her about. I explained how those things could happen, and if they did, to call me immediately, and I'd teach her how to rectify and retrain. In spite of all her promises, she did not honor them. From then on, I insisted on the "drop-in" deal, as people can fool you the first time or two. In my book, talk is cheap, and pretty is as pretty does. Pretty, she wasn't!

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/27/2011 2:50:10 PM   
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Talk *is* cheap, which is why I suggest asking for money even if you don't plan on taking it.

We love all our kittys. One was found, one was adopted from a friend, one from a no-kill shelter and well...we all know Mr. Fitzy was a gift to me from John and not inexpensive. *We* take care of them all equally, but there is some truth in the saying that we value what we've paid for...

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/27/2011 2:53:45 PM   
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I actually really liked the questionnaire, as it brought up a bunch of points I would have never thought to ask.
Like a potential families views on declawing. I would probably do very bad things to someone if I found out they declawed my babies.
Also bengals are an amazing breed, but they have certain peculiarities to them, and the questionnaire asks questions that help determine if the person has looked into the breed enough to know what they are and agree they can handle them.
It brings up housing points- is someone trying to take pets their landlord would not allow? Saying after the question that I WOULD check.
It asks about how old the people my cats would have to interact with, the pets they would have to tolerate, and so on.


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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/27/2011 3:28:36 PM   
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Talk *is* cheap, which is why I suggest asking for money even if you don't plan on taking it.

We love all our kittys. One was found, one was adopted from a friend, one from a no-kill shelter and well...we all know Mr. Fitzy was a gift to me from John and not inexpensive. *We* take care of them all equally, but there is some truth in the saying that we value what we've paid for...


Not so sure about that, I didn't pay for the cats or dogs, they all cost me a fortune - I took Kia on and a few weeks after we had her we found out that she has arthritis, her medical file is 12 pages, every vet visit is about 2 to 4 lines with plenty of abbreviations, she finally is springy again due to leech treatment but I think I spent the equivalent of a new car on her. I think if somebody pays, they will possibly see it a bit different and might not spend limitless amounts at the vet. Also a person who loves a pet will learn everything about the pet and the breed. I would trust the instinct of the fur babies far more than if a person is willing to pay for them.

Maybe I'm a bit cynical about it, but there are so many ads where people try to make money from their pets that it can be a bit offputting. I recall one, where somebody was desperately looking for somebody to take on her 7 year old Dobe as there is apparently a jealousy issue with her newborn baby and she needs a new home for the dog ASAP. The sucker that I am, I called up and offered to foster the dog and potentially maybe keep it (if you got 2 pony sized dogs, a 3rd one doesn't make a difference), she said she has an offer of 1K for it (no papers) and if I can top it, I can pick up the dog. I was REALLY pissed off and gave her a piece of my mind, she gave me the same "If you don't pay, I can't trust you to look after dog well..." crock of shite, something she said made me wonder, and I feigned interest, it turned out she bred the poor dog (a female) and from overbreeding the dog was simply ill and exhausted, and her "newborn" is actually 12. I called the RSPCA and they said they'd look into it, dunno what came out of it, but yeah, a bit prejudiced when it comes to "Have to give up my beloved pet but want money..." I'm sure it's not the case with OP, but in the extremely unlikely case that I would have to part with one of my fur babies, I would want to know where the people live (does the pet have enough room), would want to see the new environment, would ask about pets they have already and if I may talk with their vet, regarding if they neutered their pets, if they are up with their vaccinations, etc.

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/27/2011 3:30:57 PM   
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Best bit of advice I have gotten so far is to ask for their current or past vets contact info.

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RE: Adopting out my cats, any advice? - 11/27/2011 3:45:24 PM   
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Should you find a prospective adopter (s), verbally or in contract, consider requesting and requiring the people let you make occasional drop-ins, to ensure the animal's care and content is up to snuff. Of course, you don't imply you don't trust them, but only want to visit the kitty you miss so much. I once had a lady take, promise to take care of, and promise to call me if ANYTHING went awry, as I would gladly guide her out of the problem, or if she chose, to immediately take the cat back (one I had bottle raised from being a day-old). It turned out her effusive promises were for naught, and had just about as much value as our present day dollar. I ran into her one day, many months later, only to find out she took the cat to the pound, when it began having accidents outside the box, which is interesting, as it had immaculate habits in my home (it was well-taught), and was not given up for adoption until it was 14 weeks old and mature enough.

I was astounded, and fit to be tied, as that was one of the very things I'd clearly educated her about. I explained how those things could happen, and if they did, to call me immediately, and I'd teach her how to rectify and retrain. In spite of all her promises, she did not honor them. From then on, I insisted on the "drop-in" deal, as people can fool you the first time or two. In my book, talk is cheap, and pretty is as pretty does. Pretty, she wasn't!


I have a similar story that happened many years ago.. An elderly couple going into senior housing had a 12yr old overweight kitty and wanted him declawed because he was now going to be indoors only. After weeks of trying to talk them out of it, they agreed to let me find him a new home where his claws could stay intact. The person who adopted him indicated that she had no intention of having him declawed. Several months later I found out that she had taken him for the procedure. I was so furious I had no words to tell her what I thought of her.

This is why it's important to get vet references and paperwork, and home visits if possible. As experienced as my people are are "vetting" prospective owners, occasionally one slips by. For someone who is not familiar with the things people will do to obtain a pet, especially a purebred, it's a daunting task.

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