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Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 12:32:09 PM   
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David Duke, the former Ku Klux Klan leader, white supremacist and Louisiana politician, was arrested and taken into custody in Cologne on Friday, prior to a planned speech to a right-wing extremist group, German police said Monday.

The statement by the Cologne police department said that Duke, 61, is "obliged to leave German territory without delay." In a message on his website, Duke said he had been released from jail and requested financial assistance from his followers to fight the deportation.

"To fight this case will cost a lot of money, time and effort," he wrote.

The arrest appears to be tied to Duke's expulsion from the Czech Republic in 2009, following his detention there on suspicion of denying the Holocaust, a crime in many European countries, including Germany. The Cologne police statement said that Duke "was not entitled to stay in Germany" because of a travel ban against him in another, unspecified European country.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/29/david-duke-arrested-in-germany_n_1119010.html

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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 12:35:15 PM   
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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 12:37:09 PM   
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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 5:39:47 PM   
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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 6:30:45 PM   
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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 6:39:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		WHen you put it that way Violet, I get what you are saying, but it was his decision to go to germany where they have their rules and requirements regarding the holocaust. Hes getting much less than he deserves in my mind, but then its a good job I dont have my own country:)


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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 6:43:42 PM   
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I'm actually against this. I do believe that the world could do without him and his ideas, but I also believe that the world could do without suppression of ideas.


Violet, I'm 100% pro- the free expression of ideas. The more the merrier from where I sit. Sorry, but I do draw a line at the expression and incitement of hate. Which is what this vicious individual and his odious message is all about.

So, well done Germany, good riddance to bad rubbish.

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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 6:50:07 PM   
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I'm actually against this. I do believe that the world could do without him and his ideas, but I also believe that the world could do without suppression of ideas.


What do you think would happen if I came to the US and violate the US constitution and break laws? Wanna bet that they would deport my backside in a heartbeat? Due to the Hitler's reign and the resulting crimes Germany is very sensitive on the issue, and it isn't that an idea is suppressed, what he did would equate to somebody claiming that slavery never happened in America and it's a vicious lie that black people are spreading - I somehow doubt that it would be well received.


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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 6:58:28 PM   
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I'm actually against this. I do believe that the world could do without him and his ideas, but I also believe that the world could do without suppression of ideas.


I admire that stance. But I still wish the cabin of his flight would suddenly depressurize and suck his nazi ass out through a hole smaller than a hot girl's navel
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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 6:59:58 PM   
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What do you think would happen if I came to the US and violate the US constitution and break laws?


I think that would MAJORLY depend on who busted you
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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 7:14:02 PM   
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ORIGINAL: VioletGray

I'm actually against this. I do believe that the world could do without him and his ideas, but I also believe that the world could do without suppression of ideas.

A wonderful idealistic way of looking at things violet,but given Germany's unique history,and the attendant national quilt over said history,their laws concerning hate speech and Holocaust denial speech is perfectly understandable and actually commendable.

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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 7:36:39 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don't get me wrong, David Duke certainly deserves a hot-sauce enema, and Germany's ban of such things is nothing if not understandable, but I get uncomfortable when people start banning ideas, because if the winds change and the wrong person gets into power, MY ideas might get me in trouble.

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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 8:11:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		Outrageous. David Duke has the right believe in what wants to believe regardless of the FACTS, EVIDENCE, and PROOF that things reality happened. If man wants to believe that the moon is made of green cheese, babies come from storks, or that holocaust didnt happen, that is his RIGHT. It should NEVER be a crime to reject reality and substitute you own based on whatever you want to believe. All you liberals and progressives with your "Facts", "Evidence", and "Proof" can take it and shove it. If man choose to live in a fantasy reality, that should be his right.

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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 8:31:54 PM   
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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 8:55:09 PM   
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Hes getting much less than he deserves in my mind, but then its a good job I dont have my own country:)


When you consider how close that son of a bitch came (yeah I know it wasn't THAT close... but it's the principal) to actually giving this country a Nazi president.

"In the United States, Duke continues to speak regularly at gatherings of prominent right-wing groups and writes for Stormfront, a leading white-supremacist website."

Ha! They keep referring to him as "former kkk" leader and "former neo-nazi" BULLSHIT! He just took the jackboots off because he was told to by his GOP Handlers.... I still don't know if he was serious or Bush's Nomination Insurance back in 88


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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 8:55:56 PM   
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Outrageous. David Duke has the right believe in what wants to believe regardless of the FACTS, EVIDENCE, and PROOF that things reality happened. If man wants to believe that the moon is made of green cheese, babies come from storks, or that holocaust didnt happen, that is his RIGHT. It should NEVER be a crime to reject reality and substitute you own based on whatever you want to believe. All you liberals and progressives with your "Facts", "Evidence", and "Proof" can take it and shove it. If man choose to live in a fantasy reality, that should be his right.



He can think whatever he pleases. He can choose whatever model of reality he likes. He can say whatever he likes at home or to his friends. These things are not at stake in this instance.

Duke chose to articulate his hate in the public sphere in a foreign country and that's quite another matter.

He chose to visit Germany - a country with particular history, sensitivities and laws in this area that he chose to point two fingers at - to articulate his hate in a public place. Germany very wisely declined to offer him a platform from which to spew his hate.

An American parallel might be defending Osama bin Laden's 'right' to conduct a speaking tour in Manhattan .... Is that the type of thing you'd like to defend? No doubt your voice was raised loudly to defend the building of the mosque in NYC ....... yeah sure.

No surprise is it that Duke's apologists are found on the Right side of politics, the same side of politics that has traditionally nurtured, defended and promoted racism, and opposed virtually every anti-racist measure adopted everywhere in the West.

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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 9:24:03 PM   
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The statement by the Cologne police department said that Duke, 61, is "obliged to leave German territory without delay."



Fuck... can't someone slip someone a few bucks to... ahem... monitor that an "unfortunate accident" doesn't befall Duke before he leaves?!!   (whistles)



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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/29/2011 10:39:38 PM   
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You are all really fakes.

You produce one fucking victim he created and we can go down there with my guns and whack him. Freedom of this and freedom of that. You want polygamy, no problem, you want deviance, no problem, you want all kinds of shit, no problem.

But when it comes to this he has no rights.

Oh, but it was Germany. OK, well that guy on TV who got axed in Iraq, tough shit, he should've stayed home.

All of you here except VioletGray disappoint me. You fucking make it sound like this guy commited genocide and WHY ? You are as much of a bunch of fucking bigots as the normal fucking bigots ! Disgusting.

And some people have the fucking nerve to bitch that I am a racist. Go FUCK ,,,,,,,,, nevermind.

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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/30/2011 12:10:51 AM   
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You've certainly gone a long way to proving everybody wrong.

Some people also have the 'fucking nerve' to stand up to racists.
That includes guntoting alcoherent ones.

You are in no way coming from the same angle as Violet.

WTF happened to you?

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RE: Germany sets to deport KKK chappie - 11/30/2011 12:43:41 AM   
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...you want all kinds of shit



Not true... I'm rather particular about my shit.   LOL



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