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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 10:46:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TigerBDSM

Been away for years, was totally happy with my girls. Now I'm searching again.

I see that the quality of replies from the group has sharpened over the years. I will begin to author under this older profile name soon. I'm sure to get some push back from the group.


Sorry to hear that.. And please publish! Love reading this stuff (and the comments from the peanut gallery ;-))

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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 12:48:23 PM   
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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 1:51:34 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Casteele

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Don't you "beep beeeeep beeeeep beep beep beeeep" at me, young lady! ::ties you up and spanks your cheeky bum::



Ha!! ha!!! You know morse. See now thats a handy skill to have when ball gags are involved.
(George Costanza from Seinfeld wow, just wow they are right.)

hmm I had better add a comment to the OP to stop this being a derailment....
.....*thinking*
.....nope...I got nothing, sorry. So maybe just a token - "Grats on reaching the final level of kink activity?" When you finally worked out the true way did end credits appear?



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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 2:41:52 PM   
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My personal experience has included women who, by the very nature of being deeply submissive, were not comfortable stating these needs and desires.
and in order to have their wants needs and desires met---they top from the bottom.   

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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 2:54:17 PM   
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Not necessarily.
Some just go "I'm not sure how to express this, but I'm happy with things as they are."

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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 4:57:57 PM   
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Yadda Yadda Yadda.... there's a limit to the amount of energy one needs to expend getting inside another persons head. Hell, it all depends upon the walls and boundaries. Some people can't figure themselves out with full access to the shit inside their mind. Some times, you simply need to force the will along without trying to make a great big mind fuck production about it. There's a lot of situational, all depends kind of stuff... which ain't accounted for in True-Wayism postings like this.

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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 5:03:08 PM   
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hmm I had better add a comment to the OP to stop this being a derailment....
.....*thinking*
.....nope...I got nothing, sorry. So maybe just a token - "Grats on reaching the final level of kink activity?" When you finally worked out the true way did end credits appear?


go ahead and de-rail all you want. The Op flounced days and days ago.

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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 5:18:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mazterlock

Many years ago when Myspace was new, it was discovered by the BDSM community. It thrived, got messy and as everybody knows, eventually faded away. I was going to edit this very old blog and update it for collarme but I decided this community might find it more interesting to read this blog exactly as I wrote it all those many years ago...  (Well, I certainly did!).

WHAT A TRUE MASTER DOES

"Maybe I am just noticing more but it seems like many more women on Myspace are trying to sort out real Masters from posers. That is a very good thing.
Here is my opinion of what it means to be a true Master.

A real Master is much more sensitive and caring than a macho type of man. This can seem ironic at first but there is a big difference between aggressive dominant behavior and the behavior of a true Master who often waits quite a long time before asserting his dominance.

Submissives, by nature, do not assert what they want. A true submissive is a very strong person with the confidence to surrender control to a Master. A submissive is NEVER a victim. But, she knows that the very act of telling a man that she wants to be tied up, for example, can run the risk of "topping from the bottom" which ruins the moment and eventually the relationship. Submissive women always find a wonderful, but often subtle way of showing that they want you to take control but it is up to the Master to interpret nuanced behavior in order to uncover the details of what she wants through his own perceptions and experience.

Every woman is unique and every submissive woman has unique needs, desires, fantasies and hopes. The only thing submissives have in common is the desire that the right type of dominant man will unveil their submission and push them to explore the extreme limits of their deeply rooted desires. Pain is just one example, but a good one. Every submissive woman I have ever been with had a different level of tolerance for pain and a different psychological reaction to the role or pain in an M/s relationship.

While on the surface, especially to a novice, it appears that the Master is simply dictating what the slave must do, the reality is that a true Master is intensely tuned in to the unspoken aspects of a relationship and is constantly adjusting his approach. A true Master always has the goal of getting as deep inside the head of his slave as he possible can. Wearing leather and carrying a whip and hand cuffs at the ready has nothing to do with it.

Real Masters understand that what is happening on the surface when you observe an M/s relationship is usually just a hint of what is going on deep inside the mind of the slave. Speaking for myself, the physical submission is very exciting but it is tapping into the psyche of a truly submissive woman that is most fulfilling.

Some submissives have rape type fantasies. That is the hardest "scene" for a true Master to play out. True Master's hate the idea of forcing themselves upon a woman. They crave the opposite. For myself, I do not want to complete the final act of intercourse until a woman is literally begging for it - she should be so on the edge of ecstasy and pain and emotions - that she simply must have me. That is what most true Master's seek.

If you keep these things in mind, it will be pretty easy to sort out the hundreds of men on Myspace who are posturing as a Master as opposed to actually being one."


Well, I gotta tell you MazterBate....I feel VERY informed now.

Almost whole....complete even.

Thank you.


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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 5:20:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: RaspberryLemon

Ok look, guy. You are not the authority on what makes someone a "true" or "real" Master or dominant. People are all incredibly different, and there's no ONE "right" way to do it. There are endless possibilities and let's face it, they're all "the right way" to somebody.

So please stop talking about what "true Masters" are/do/want and what all submissive women are/do/want. For example, that crap about subtlety. Some submissive women may be subtle, but personally I am by no means subtle with my Master and he really appreciates my openness and assertiveness. Being subtle and beating about the bush, to me, is just pointless when you could just speak up and be forward. The point being, everybody's different (although most of us learned this when we were still in kindergarten,) and they're not "wrong" for being different--everybody operates and lives and likes different things, and D/s and M/s are not excluded from this rule.



Yes he is!

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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 5:21:14 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LaTigresse


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ORIGINAL: LanceHughes

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ORIGINAL: MsLadySue
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How many times do we have to repeat this?

EXACTLY once per new-bie.  C'mon.... give the guy a break!


He is 46 so no. If he was 26, maybe. But at age 46 he should not have his head stuck quite so far up his ass.


My guess is he thinks it smells like roses.

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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 5:22:11 PM   
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Just skimming through and Des had to mention BPD...

At least I take my meds, speaking of which...*gulps them down*


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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 5:23:18 PM   
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ORIGINAL: ChatteParfaitt

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Using the word "true" around here is obviously a mistake, but I can't really disagree in substance with most of what you're saying. I don't think its bad advice at all for anybody just beginning to explore this, I've seem much more misleading manifestos.



Agreed. If you substitute "true Master" with "caring dominant" (or some such) it comes across much better, at least from the dominant side.

From the submissive side, it sucks. I find the paragraph below to be just full of horse shit.

Submissives, by nature, do not assert what they want. A true submissive is a very strong person with the confidence to surrender control to a Master. A submissive is NEVER a victim. But, she knows that the very act of telling a man that she wants to be tied up, for example, can run the risk of "topping from the bottom" which ruins the moment and eventually the relationship. Submissive women always find a wonderful, but often subtle way of showing that they want you to take control but it is up to the Master to interpret nuanced behavior in order to uncover the details of what she wants through his own perceptions and experience.

If I tell the man I like to be tied up I'm topping from the bottom? Er, what the fuck? I highly recommend people talk about what they want, before and after.

An example.

Me: I'd really like to get raped this weekend.

Him: Oh really? You are such a slut. Well, Miss slutty I just might make that happen <sneaking a peek at my boobs> or then again, maybe not. <wicked chuckle>

I am more than capable of asserting what I want in *any* situation. He is more than capable of deciding if I get it.


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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 5:24:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Mazterlock

Thank you, Stacey. A submissive woman definitely can and should tell a man that she wants to be tied up and it is wonderful for me when a woman is explicit. My personal experience has included women who, by the very nature of being deeply submissive, were not comfortable stating these needs and desires.

I know I will be slammed for this stereotype, but in New York City, you meet submissive Japanese women who grew up in Japan but have lived here for many years. If you wait for them to tell you what they desire, you will be waiting forever.

This is not about one type of submissive being "better" than another. This is about appreciating the idea that every submissive women is unique and a "good" Master should appreciate that. That's all I really mean by "true" and I'm sorry that this one word caused a lot of the responders to conclude that I am very narrow minded.



Maz....just a hint here but....you really should put down the shovel.

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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 5:26:40 PM   
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ORIGINAL: LillyBoPeep

True masters are more sensitive, too, so it only takes one or two strokes.


And this, frankly, just gets to the whole issue of men being selfish sexually....that we finish sooner and all that.

I'm here to tell you, as the breadwinners...we got shit to do....so let's get moving here!

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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 5:27:45 PM   
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But... love between two women is the most perfect kind of love...


but sex between two men is waaaaay more fun to watch


(I think not).

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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 5:28:23 PM   
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damn, I tossed out the morse code book over 20 years ago....

Lost my dit dot dit...


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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 5:30:13 PM   
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Rex,

The problem with.basing your relationship on fantasy/dysfunction is that it requires both people to not grow or change. Drug addicts are "happy" to get their next fix, women who choose abusive men fall hardest and are haopy at first.

Real relationships are messy, are not 24/7 in the wanker sense. However the depth of actual power exchange is far deeper and most importantly...lasts longer.

In other word holding my breath underwater for a short time doesnt make me a fish, jumping off a building and flying doesnt make me a bird and doing D/s for a couple months doesnt make it a valid relationship dynamix even if it.might be seriously hot.


I think you're a psychiatrist.

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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 5:32:12 PM   
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Oh Jesus Fried Chicken...another true-way thread.


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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 5:34:06 PM   
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damn, I tossed out the morse code book over 20 years ago....

Lost my dit dot dit...


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RE: "What a True Master Does" - 12/11/2011 6:04:15 PM   
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Am I the only one who noticed that the OP wrote,
quote:

Here is my opinion of what it means to be a true Master.

All of us have our own one way of doing things, and all of us know that our way does not equal THE WAY (or should I say, most of us do ). If you stop and think for a minute, OUR way equals a ONE WAY because it's best for us.

When I read the OP, I did not get the impression that he was lecturing us on a one true way...rather, he was giving his opinion of what HIS ONE way was/is.

Nothing wrong with that.



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