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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/8/2011 5:28:16 PM   
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"He's never published any false/misleading papers."

Prove that he's never published any false/misleading papers.

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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/8/2011 5:28:57 PM   
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She`s beating the corporate whore in the polls right now.

Sure election day is a while away but she is ahead.

Are all those folks emotionally charged too or just fed up with corporate welfare?


You do know that Harvard is a profit making corporation in an industry that leeches on corporate welfare more than any other right? Oh, of course you didnt. I wont overestimate your intelligence again, my bad.

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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/8/2011 5:32:09 PM   
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Who are you again?

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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/8/2011 5:34:29 PM   
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Are all those folks emotionally charged too or just fed up with corporate welfare?


There is nothing wrong if you want to end corporate welfare, but there is something wrong if you want a lawyer--who spend years dolling out corporate welfare-- to be the one in charge of ending corporate welfare.

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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/8/2011 8:03:47 PM   
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Very emotionally charged today, aren't we? Guess that's the mentality you need in order to support Elizabeth Warren.

FYI: I work full time and am completely self sufficient. This is what you're able to do when you accept personal responsibility and have a little work ethic; instead of simply claiming "I HAVE A RIGHT TO EVERYTHING" and then voting in a bunch of socialists on the basis that they will fulfill this lefty pipe-dream. Hmmm...sounds like you and Elizabeth Warren! Keep trying!


You tell someone not to vote and what? You expect them to be nice to you. And now you're declaring yourself what? Remarkable cause you have a job?
Gimme a break kid, I'm just having a few laughs off the local weenie-be dom.
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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/8/2011 8:41:27 PM   
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There is nothing wrong if you want to end corporate welfare, but there is something wrong if you want a lawyer--who spend years dolling out corporate welfare-- to be the one in charge of ending corporate welfare.


Back to the original question Who the fuck do you think is a good bet in this particular race?

And don't waste my time trying to tell me I am a Warren Supporter... That was the case only until there were additional alternate choices to Warren.



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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/8/2011 8:54:45 PM   
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If you want to be petted, try not shoving your ideology in everybody's face.


LOL. This is a forum on politics. Thanks for the laugh!

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Back to the original question Who the fuck do you think is a good bet in this particular race?

And don't waste my time trying to tell me I am a Warren Supporter... That was the case only until there were additional alternate choices to Warren.



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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/8/2011 9:33:20 PM   
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Are all those folks emotionally charged too or just fed up with corporate welfare?


There is nothing wrong if you want to end corporate welfare, but there is something wrong if you want a lawyer--who spend years dolling out corporate welfare-- to be the one in charge of ending corporate welfare.



Elucidate this point for us, if you would. You know; facts, figures, etc. from an academic and professional journal standpoint, not a pop political or mass media sand box. Please, don't tell us we wasted such tax money on the likes of this.

On that point, if you think that you have paid even 1/20th of the way towards your college education by dint of your own summers of picking cotton and winters of delivering pizza, you absolutely do not deserve to graduate.

All I can say is, if the trash collectors and CNC machinists knew how much their tax deductions were paying for you frat boys, and all the destruction of society and culture by way of academic deconstruction of history, the real revolution would start at 5:30 AM this morning.








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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/8/2011 10:33:48 PM   
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For your sake: stay home; don't vote - it will benefit us all!


Sure thing Junior.
Right after you go the fuck home and suck down some more of mommy and daddy's cash, wholly unearned by you.



Very emotionally charged today, aren't we? Guess that's the mentality you need in order to support Elizabeth Warren.

FYI: I work full time and am completely self sufficient. This is what you're able to do when you accept personal responsibility and have a little work ethic; instead of simply claiming "I HAVE A RIGHT TO EVERYTHING" and then voting in a bunch of socialists on the basis that they will fulfill this lefty pipe-dream. Hmmm...sounds like you and Elizabeth Warren! Keep trying!


Yeppers. An Ivy League graduate on a Ivy League Graduate salary (coz I expect you're for too smart to sell yourself short aren't you?) offering us all Tips on How to Live a Wholesome and Productive Life ......... preferably definitely somewhere far away from him (please there's a good pleb! Too many slobs in the 'hood will bring house pricesresidence values down) ...watch Fox, have kid or two, consume, consume and then consume some more;
and (LISTEN, didn't ya hear ME now??? I said LISTEN up now, this is the important bit) leave all the important stuff to Those Of Us Who Know Better(aka Masters of the Universe).

[singing, all together now, after Kylie] We should be sooooooo lucky! We should be sooooooo lucky! .........and
(To the tune of "I can't Get no ... Satisfaction"): I shall have no ....expectations ... No! No! NOOOOOOO!

Only wasn't it Those Of Us Who Know Better (aka Masters of the Universe) whose monumental galactic-sized fuck-ups got us all into this humongous Global Financial Crisis in the first place ...... ?????


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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/8/2011 11:42:22 PM   
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I understand some cynicism, but I think Elizabeth Warren will be a really important test as to whether we can stand up to big money.

I'm giving Elizabeth $10 a month. If lots of little people come together, we can stand up to the big guys!


Why? She's not one of "the little people" nor does she care about little people.
Let me guess, they had a state wide search and her name came up right?
Five and a half million people in Massachusetts and she's the best they could come up with?

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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/8/2011 11:43:57 PM   
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Are all those folks emotionally charged too or just fed up with corporate welfare?


There is nothing wrong if you want to end corporate welfare, but there is something wrong if you want a lawyer--who spend years dolling out corporate welfare-- to be the one in charge of ending corporate welfare.



Right.

Sorry to re-visit this, but how is it that it's OK to have CEOs of military contractors and oil companies and pharma and agro-chem companies in the top 5 levels of US government, in pursuit of satisfying the frat boy simplistic politics to suit your game-boy mentality, as long as that being by somebody wearing a cowboy hat. A cowboy hat on Elizabeth Warren would look quite silly. There's the clue. 

All the aforementioned industries are many decades past needing any government assistance to start the industry, but they found the mother load in the process, and they aren't going to let go.

But you asswipes keep voting for these asswipes.

Glad that you think it's all politics and games.

Have fun while it lasts, 'dude'.





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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/9/2011 9:28:35 AM   
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"He's never published any false/misleading papers."

Prove that he's never published any false/misleading papers.


Easy. He's never been published.

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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/9/2011 2:27:06 PM   
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Wow, the strawmen are out in full force tonight!

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Elucidate this point for us, if you would. You know; facts, figures, etc. from an academic and professional journal standpoint, not a pop political or mass media sand box. Please, don't tell us we wasted such tax money on the likes of this.


Here you go: TARP

I'm not going to say that TARP was a waste of money or anything... that would be...GASP... crazy!

The fact is that Elizabeth Warren was in charge of managing the TARP funds and dolled out lots of cash to the politically connected. And for some reason, people think she is a good move to reign in corporate interests! Unbelievable! You can't make this up!

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All I can say is, if the trash collectors and CNC machinists knew how much their tax deductions were paying for you frat boys, and all the destruction of society and culture by way of academic deconstruction of history, the real revolution would start at 5:30 AM this morning.


The first reasonable thing that you've said. Thanks for subsidizing my education! (All of you!)

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Only wasn't it Those Of Us Who Know Better (aka Masters of the Universe) whose monumental galactic-sized fuck-ups got us all into this humongous Global Financial Crisis in the first place ...... ?????


You're exactly right. Those "Masters of the Universe" are all socialists--like you--and have been in charge of all things social science for the last 100 years. Do you really think that free markets are popular with the Ivy League or in government? Those "Masters" just want idiots like you to keep voting for them so they can maintain their position of power and lucrative lifestyle at your expense. Of course, when their toxic marxist/keynesian inspired ideology inevitably fails, you'll be in line supporting them again because YOU KNOW BETTER!!!

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Sorry to re-visit this, but how is it that it's OK to have CEOs of military contractors and oil companies and pharma and agro-chem companies in the top 5 levels of US government


Where did I say that it was?

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All the aforementioned industries are many decades past needing any government assistance to start the industry, but they found the mother load in the process, and they aren't going to let go. But you asswipes keep voting for these asswipes.


What? Voting for who? Government provides a vehicle for these cronies to infect the economy. This isn't a problem of markets; they have nothing to do with what ever political hack appoints them to positions of power.

My best impression you all:

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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/9/2011 3:25:17 PM   
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Sorry if  I accused you of voting.

I have been non-guilty of that myself at various times. (I can feel my ex-Aussie GF smacking me on the back of the head for that one)

That said, I really wish that you had more of an original, not to mention genuinely individual take on things. As it stands, we are wasting our tax money on grooming prettier parrots, such as you propose yourself to be, and proud of it.


It apparently has escaped your otherwise sharp and astute notice, but E. Warren in her congressionally proscribed and limited role concerning TARP had the task of collecting data on what the bankers and their insiders at the Fed and the Treasury and the NY Fed and the SEC were doing and gave reports on their actions. The only decision making from her in that process had to do with what size and and how many copies to make and whom to send them to. Why do you think they hate her so much, such as to torpedo her appointment to the consumer credit protection agency? If she were as much of  a 'friend' to the industry as you imply, they would have eagerly RPG'd everyone out of the way instead.


Yup, you are truly one really sharp individual there.

The world awaits your presence.






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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/9/2011 4:20:39 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Edwynn

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Are all those folks emotionally charged too or just fed up with corporate welfare?


There is nothing wrong if you want to end corporate welfare, but there is something wrong if you want a lawyer--who spend years dolling out corporate welfare-- to be the one in charge of ending corporate welfare.



Right.

Sorry to re-visit this, but how is it that it's OK to have CEOs of military contractors and oil companies and pharma and agro-chem companies in the top 5 levels of US government, in pursuit of satisfying the frat boy simplistic politics to suit your game-boy mentality, as long as that being by somebody wearing a cowboy hat. A cowboy hat on Elizabeth Warren would look quite silly. There's the clue. 

All the aforementioned industries are many decades past needing any government assistance to start the industry, but they found the mother load in the process, and they aren't going to let go.

But you asswipes keep voting for these asswipes.

Glad that you think it's all politics and games.

Have fun while it lasts, 'dude'.







This.

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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/9/2011 8:53:24 PM   
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Only wasn't it Those Of Us Who Know Better (aka Masters of the Universe) whose monumental galactic-sized fuck-ups got us all into this humongous Global Financial Crisis in the first place ...... ?????


provfivetine
You're exactly right. Those "Masters of the Universe" are all socialists--like you--and have been in charge of all things social science for the last 100 years. Do you really think that free markets are popular with the Ivy League or in government? Those "Masters" just want idiots like you to keep voting for them so they can maintain their position of power and lucrative lifestyle at your expense. Of course, when their toxic marxist/keynesian inspired ideology inevitably fails, you'll be in line supporting them again because YOU KNOW BETTER!!!


Wow! Whatever you're on, can I have 50 please?


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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/9/2011 10:56:30 PM   
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~ nudges & jostles tweaker for position in line for the 50 hits ... ~


Was it the "masters of the universe are socialists" thing that turned you on? For me, I have to forgo sense of shame here and admit that the Greenspanist/Henry Paulsian inspired ideology as was translated into unfortunate reality for many a former home owner and job holder while Mr. "masters thesis in ankle grabbing" here fulfills his delusion by referring to financial deregulation as "Marxist/Keynesian," was just too much for me to resist.

OK, I'll share. After the first 20 here.




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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/9/2011 11:57:37 PM   
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~ nudges & jostles tweaker for position in line for the 50 hits ... ~


Was it the "masters of the universe are socialists" thing that turned you on? For me, I have to forgo sense of shame here and admit that the Greenspanist/Henry Paulsian inspired ideology as was translated into unfortunate reality for many a former home owner and job holder while Mr. "masters thesis in ankle grabbing" here fulfills his delusion by referring to financial deregulation as "Marxist/Keynesian," was just too much for me to resist.

OK, I'll share. After the first 20 here.





My! You're a sharp one aren't you Edwynn! It's soooooo true. Whisper "Master of the Universe" into my ear and that's it - I'm on the floor begging for more! Anybody's!!!!!

Add "socialist slut" to that and I'll explode in bliss! Does it for me every time!!! Hasn't failed me yet !!!

No worries about sharing either .... after all we're 'socialists' - that's what we do!

Roll up ! Y'all come'n'geddit now! Freebies here .... address your thank you notes to your local Master of the Universe! Roll up and vote Republican!


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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/10/2011 7:00:53 AM   
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The Woman Who Knew Too Much

Millions of Americans hoped President Obama would nominate Elizabeth Warren to head the consumer financial watchdog agency she had created. Instead, she was pushed aside. As Warren kicks off her run for Scott Brown’s Senate seat in Massachusetts, Suzanna Andrews charts the Harvard professor’s emergence as a champion of the beleaguered middle class, and her fight against a powerful alliance of bankers, lobbyists, and politicians.

...In November 2008, Warren received a call from Senator Harry Reid. Lehman Brothers had collapsed two months before; A.I.G.’s bailout had just been upped to $150 billion, and Congress had passed TARP. Reid asked Warren to head the congressional panel overseeing the $700 billion bailout. The job was vague, with no clear goals, but Warren would turn it into a tough, prosecutorial committee. She did real investigations, grilled government officials, and issued blunt monthly reports demanding more accountability from banks and better returns for the taxpayer. She held public hearings that were televised, asking the questions that many taxpayers wanted asked—and questions that bankers and Treasury officials did not want to answer.

Perhaps the most widely watched hearing is the one that took place in September 2009. A video of part of that hearing can still be found on YouTube, under the title “Elizabeth Warren Makes Timmy Geithner Squirm.” It opens with Warren asking the question that was on the minds of many taxpayers: “A.I.G. has received about $70 billion in TARP money, about $100 billion in loans from the Fed. Do you know where the money went?” What followed during the rest of the hearing was the spectacle of the Treasury secretary tripping over his words, his eyes darting around the room as Warren, calm and prosecutorial, kept hammering him with questions. At another hearing, in December 2009, Geithner appeared to be barely able to contain his annoyance, at one point almost shouting at her. Warren’s questioning “was masterful,” says Neil Barofsky, who ran the TARP oversight for Treasury. “She eviscerated him.” But Warren would pay a price for those hearings.

“Geithner hated her,” says a former administration official. Part of it was seen as personal because she had scorched him in public. But the whole thrust of her work on the oversight panel—getting the facts out to the public—was at odds with Geithner’s perceived conviction, shared by the Wall Street establishment, that the details of the banks’ TARP rescue should be hidden from public scrutiny whenever possible in order to give the banks time to recover, an assessment that a Treasury spokesperson disputes, insisting that “Secretary Geithner initiated unprecedented disclosure requirements for financial institutions.”

According to Barofsky, however, “Treasury’s descriptions of what was happening were very skewed towards the positive and often incomprehensible. There was this reluctance towards transparency,” and Warren’s work on the oversight panel “helped bring light in a lot of dark areas.” As Treasury sought to cosset the banks, never requiring them, for example, as Barofsky points out, to explain what they were doing with their billions in TARP bailout money, Warren persisted. She went on television shows to criticize the government’s secrecy, the huge bank bonuses, the fact that even after the bailout the banks had escaped disciplinary measures. Obama’s top economic advisers, according to a former administration official, thought Warren was “a pain in the ass.” On Wall Street, Warren was regarded, says one bank vice-chairman, as “the Devil incarnate,” and, according to another executive, a “showboater,” who didn’t really know what she was talking about.

But her sin was actually quite the opposite: she knew what she was talking about.

Read more: http://www.vanityfair.com/politics/features/2011/11/elizabeth-warren-201111.print

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RE: Join Elizabeth's Call for Wall Street Accountability - 12/10/2011 2:42:38 PM   
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Wow! Whatever you're on, can I have 50 please?



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~ nudges & jostles tweaker for position in line for the 50 hits ... ~

Was it the "masters of the universe are socialists" thing that turned you on? For me, I have to forgo sense of shame here and admit that the Greenspanist/Henry Paulsian inspired ideology as was translated into unfortunate reality for many a former home owner and job holder while Mr. "masters thesis in ankle grabbing" here fulfills his delusion by referring to financial deregulation as "Marxist/Keynesian," was just too much for me to resist.

OK, I'll share. After the first 20 here.



What was deregulated?


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