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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 8:36:28 AM

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So I "feel" people, and yes, that even works online. To date, I have never met anyone from online who wasn't exactly what I thought they'd be, so this weird psychic radar seems to work.

Another thing, LaT alot of the posters aren't just random names on a computer screen.
I"ve met a minimum of 40 people from this site so yes it can get personal. Even for those regular posters that haven't met anyone yet (I do stress regular) you can develop an online relationship with posters that you banter back & forth with...(remember how Holly aka sirsholly & I used to go at each other all in the name of fun) and that can make it personal too.
Holly & I never met face to face but the online friendship was definitely there. Posters will chat on the phone, chat on the other side, chat on IM so it is personal even if you've never met them in person.

Oh certainly! There are a few that I've gotten to know beyond here so that is, to me, an entirely different story. It has gone beyond the internet which for ME, builds more of an emotional bond.

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 8:49:29 AM

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I dont understand the emotion either.. I try to keep my emotions out of online and real life situations.. life is too short to get all tied up in knots about nothing much, anything and everything setting one off.. and to let your emotions go wild, is imo a sign that a person cant control themselves and can be easily manipulated by others/strangers.. they need a life!..

I have found that in real life situations too tho. For example when i was in college, an english in-class assignment was to take a side debating whether the govt should legalize drugs (like heroin, etc) or not, you could take either side. I figured the traditional "no to legalizing drugs" was boring so i took the side that yes, the govt should make them legal. It was simply an exercise in debate, how to formulate a logical consise arguement with a list of reasons supporting it. I did that.. The next freakin day the teacher makes mine public and reads it aloud in class.. All the students jumped on me, how could i think that hard drugs should be legal? blah, blah, blah.. like that was my personal opinion, which it wasnt, it was just an assignment and i felt that side would provide more of a challenge.. The classes reaction really surprised me, all the emotion and all.. there was no emotion in it for me at all, it could have been a report on "should pigs have wings or not"..

Online, there have been times and posters that have responded to my emotion-free opinions immediately with a personal attack full of abuse and insults.. wtf? so some time ago i made it my policy to no longer respond to those posts and posters.. I only enjoy posts and posters where it is an actual discussion and enough respect that it avoids becoming personal. And not only do i respect those posters more than most because they refrain from making it nasty and personal, my mind is actually more open to try to understand their point of view, even if i still do not agree with them..

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 8:52:48 AM

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This...."Most of the time I am posting with very little emotion and what emotion I do have is either humour, or mild annoyance. Rather like that of having a harmless gnat flying around in your face."

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 8:52:51 AM

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I think an exercise in a class, especially an exercise in debate is different than an "attack" on our person (even if the attack is only verbal).

By definition, debate should be unemotional. I don't think most human beings can survive without emotion.

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 8:55:59 AM

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zero. Im a vulcan dontcha know.

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 8:56:18 AM

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I think that for me........when people get ridiculous. The attack stuff. If it is directed towards me I only see it as a negative on them, not me.

It is THEIR STUFF they are projecting onto me, taking out on me. That I don't care about at all. Most especially on here! On here, people can throw shit at me all day and it's........."meh, whatever"

I just hate seeing it projected onto people that may not be sufficiently equipped to cope with it. That is usually what causes me to fire with both barrels. No prisoners. I could kill without remorse.........kinda deal.

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 9:03:23 AM

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I think an exercise in a class, especially an exercise in debate is different than an "attack" on our person (even if the attack is only verbal).

By definition, debate should be unemotional. I don't think most human beings can survive without emotion.

Peace and comfort,

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well, i think the fact it was supposed to be an emotionless debate/assignment was lost on the class.. but it was an attack of my viewpoint, if you want to call it that..

No, i do have emotions, just i try to keep them out of situations where they shouldnt be, where you need to be objective to come to a conclusion or decision or solve a problem or some such thing. I prefer to keep my emotions for the cuddly sucky lovey dovey stuff i would do with a boyfriend.. that is where my emotions come out!..

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 9:08:50 AM

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No, i do have emotions, just i try to keep them out of situations where they shouldnt be, where you need to be objective to come to a conclusion or decision or solve a problem or some such thing.

So, you arrive at opinions on issues completely without employing emotion?

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 9:10:02 AM

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I think that for me........when people get ridiculous. The attack stuff. If it is directed towards me I only see it as a negative on them, not me.

It is THEIR STUFF they are projecting onto me, taking out on me. That I don't care about at all. Most especially on here! On here, people can throw shit at me all day and it's........."meh, whatever"

I just hate seeing it projected onto people that may not be sufficiently equipped to cope with it. That is usually what causes me to fire with both barrels. No prisoners. I could kill without remorse.........kinda deal.

Yes, i agree, it says so much about the person that has made the personal attack..

I also think that perhaps for some posters, its a game, they bait the unsuspecting.. imo, they personally attack someone so in defence the baited personally attacks him/her back and gets the baited person wound up so bad that they go overboard and get themselves banned..

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 9:12:01 AM

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I just hate seeing it projected onto people that may not be sufficiently equipped to cope with it. That is usually what causes me to fire with both barrels. No prisoners. I could kill without remorse.........kinda deal.

What type of people are you referring to, LaT? New posters? Childlike mentality?

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 9:13:29 AM

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I just hate seeing it projected onto people that may not be sufficiently equipped to cope with it. That is usually what causes me to fire with both barrels. No prisoners. I could kill without remorse.........kinda deal.

What type of people are you referring to, LaT? New posters? Childlike mentality?

Based upon what I've seen, a great many people are not well equipped to let it roll off without freaking out in some way.

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 9:19:42 AM

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No, i do have emotions, just i try to keep them out of situations where they shouldnt be, where you need to be objective to come to a conclusion or decision or solve a problem or some such thing.

So, you arrive at opinions on issues completely without employing emotion?

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I try to. Even when i was with my ex, when i tried to discuss a problem, i tried to make it emotionless. For me it was, lets discuss this problem (objectively and without blame, etc) and come up with possible solutions and then try implementing one or more of them..

Even when he refused to discuss problems and would literally stand up and walk away from me.. I still did not get emotional, i was disappointed but i just let him walk away (you cant force anyone to do something they dont want to do).. needless to say, those problems never were resolved (which as you can guess is a good part of why he is my ex).. When i told him i no longer wanted to be married to him, there was no emotion for me, it was just a statement and informing him of my decision (which took me a very long time to come to).

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 9:22:34 AM

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Based upon what I've seen, a great many people are not well equipped to let it roll off without freaking out in some way.

Those are the people that really ought to get out more & socialize if freaking out means that they feel like their character is being attacked and their feelings are hurt.

If they're freaking out in a combative way than I stand by post #5.

I agree w/you regarding the personal attacks, that I believe is a case of being brave on the internet because in real life you're a wus (not you, LaT, the attacker)

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 9:26:56 AM

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Even when he refused to discuss problems and would literally stand up and walk away from me.. I still did not get emotional, i was disappointed but i just let him walk away (you cant force anyone to do something they dont want to do).. needless to say, those problems never were resolved (which as you can guess is a good part of why he is my ex).. When i told him i no longer wanted to be married to him, there was no emotion for me, it was just a statement and informing him of my decision (which took me a very long time to come to).

The words I highlighted in red are emotions. The fact that at some point, you loved your ex and then, at some point, you didn't suggestions that the decision to end the marriage involved some emotion.

Even if I believed that you were as Vulcan (forgive an old Trekkie) as you claim, there is emotion in almost every decision.

When you were debating the legalization of drugs, I'm guessing that you read some materials - be they medical reports or crime statistics - and you decided how to interpret those reports so you decided how you FELT about them.

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 9:27:37 AM

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It is the third paragraph I don't get, the getting angry at words on a screen typed by people you do not know well enough to care what they think.

Well, this is probably just one of those areas where people have to agree to disagree. While I try not to take myself too seriously, our integrity/reputation/honor (take your pick) is all we truly have in this life. For someone to assail that is something (in my mind) which is worth defending.

Mind you, I'm not talking about cussing and spitting saliva out of my mouth and kicking the cat angry. I'm talking about: "I need to set the record straight on this" angry.

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Having been several times in my outside life the target of unwarranted personal attacks, I've learned from hard experience that defending oneself is typically counterproductive. Of course I want to defend myself but then it's just my word against those of my attacker. It's allowing the attacker to direct my thoughts and feelings. At some point in time I came to realize that all I have to do is continue being myself, and letting people judge me based on my typical words and behavior. The attackers always end up revealing their true colors and their words and actions turn around and reflect back onto them. All in all, that has worked much better for me.

The best revenge is sitting back and watching your enemies make fools of themselves in front of those they were trying to impress.

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 9:46:04 AM

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Even when he refused to discuss problems and would literally stand up and walk away from me.. I still did not get emotional, i was disappointed but i just let him walk away (you cant force anyone to do something they dont want to do).. needless to say, those problems never were resolved (which as you can guess is a good part of why he is my ex).. When i told him i no longer wanted to be married to him, there was no emotion for me, it was just a statement and informing him of my decision (which took me a very long time to come to).

The words I highlighted in red are emotions. The fact that at some point, you loved your ex and then, at some point, you didn't suggestions that the decision to end the marriage involved some emotion.

Even if I believed that you were as Vulcan (forgive an old Trekkie) as you claim, there is emotion in almost every decision.

When you were debating the legalization of drugs, I'm guessing that you read some materials - be they medical reports or crime statistics - and you decided how to interpret those reports so you decided how you FELT about them.

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ok, then i will restate what i meant in another way.. I try not to make my emotions (if i have any) public or part of the discussion or decision. I do try to limit the affects of emotions when i feel them in situations where i feel they are not appropriate and/or serve no purpose.. so if i feel myself letting my emotions inside starting to get away on me, i take a step back and rein them in again.. sort of put them in a box on the top shelf of the closet.. I dont know how to explain it otherwise. The deciding factor in ending my marriage, was finally realizing that i no longer loved him,.. that emotion no longer existed. So with that, there really wasnt much emotion in my decision. There was some sadness that i needed to end it but that emotion was not part of the end decision or had any effect on it..

I do try.. that doesnt mean i always succeed entirely (which is when i realize it and rein them in again)..

ets- about the in-class report,.. no, i didnt read anything extra to write the report and it had no bearing on how i felt about the subject. It was just more of a challenge to write, to oppose the conventional opinion.. I sometimes like to be a contrarian..

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 9:47:22 AM

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I rarely post with a whole lot of emotion these days and I certainly rarely feel anger from message board stuff. When I DO find myself feeling riled up I recognize its time for me to stop and look inward at exactly what is affecting me like that and why. I don't like feeling riled up (for lack of a better term) so I want to understand what, within me, is driving that so I can address it.

There have been many times I have been enlightened by what I've discovered.

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 9:48:44 AM

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In my first post on this thread, I stated that I didn't think it possible for people to form opinions without emotions being a factor in the decision. Nothing you have written convinces me to the contrary. Of course, you have every right to believe that you've divorced yourself from your emotions. I believe that's a fallacy and I don't believe it to be an ideal.

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 9:54:13 AM

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I just hate seeing it projected onto people that may not be sufficiently equipped to cope with it. That is usually what causes me to fire with both barrels. No prisoners. I could kill without remorse.........kinda deal.

It doesnt help their case that they are grown adults and that a lot of them are obnoxious and are just begging for it.

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RE: How does emotion figure into your on-line interacti... - 12/9/2011 9:56:11 AM

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In my first post on this thread, I stated that I didn't think it possible for people to form opinions without emotions being a factor in the decision. Nothing you have written convinces me to the contrary. Of course, you have every right to believe that you've divorced yourself from your emotions. I believe that's a fallacy and I don't believe it to be an ideal.

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Michael

Like i said,.. I try.. and i dont like making any emotions i might have public and certainly dont want them to morph into a personal attack..

of course you are free to disagree with me..

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