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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Thats a pathetically weak strawman  even for you hill

Why not try to address what I actually wrote for once

Dont answer, the question is rhetorical and the answer is obvious enough. Its because youre not capable

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

More bullshit, Obama never claimed any credit for the war in Iraq.

He can, if he wishes, claim credit for making good his campaign promise to bring the troops home as soon as possible.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-16186136

Actually he delayed bringing them home well beyond his campaign promises, and adhered to the Bush timetable in the end. And he wanted troops to remain but got thrown out, so bringing them home wasnt even his idea.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Iran is just a tiny country though, how could it possibly harm even a fly

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

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ORIGINAL: DarkSteven
I'm not exactly disagreeing with you, Ron, but the whole country will descend into a prolonged civil war soon.  There's no way to tell whether the net result will be positive or negative until several years have passed.

It's not necessarily going to be that prolonged: for all anybody knows the Iranians will invade the second the withdrawal's finished.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Sorry, but I have no such emotional feelings about your posts in this thread, you dont seem to have what it takes to make a significant point

Like the average leftist here the very best you can manage is a weak attack on the messenger. Addressing the topic of discussion is sadly beyond you, and I waste little time worrying about the particular angle your small minded personal attacks are taking at any given moment

You claim others are liars without having any ability to reason out what you think the lie may be, for example, and you cant answer very simple questions.

You lash out angrily and blindly without thinking, and cannot touch the OP or the followup posts themselves because thats what leftists do thread after thread

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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

No it is my way of telling you your Op was slanted bullshit...... I did read it on my own, which is why you dont like the reply pointing out your lies.

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Thats a pathetically weak strawman  even for you hill

Why not try to address what I actually wrote for once

Dont answer, the question is rhetorical and the answer is obvious enough. Its because youre not capable

It isn't a strawman, it's a general statement but if the shoe fits, by all means wear it.
Praising what our troops do under difficult conditions had absolutely nothing to do with praising the person that put them in that position.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Sorry, but I have no such emotional feelings about your posts in this thread, you dont seem to have what it takes to make a significant point

Like the average leftist here the very best you can manage is a weak attack on the messenger. Addressing the topic of discussion is sadly beyond you, and I waste little time worrying about the particular angle your small minded personal attacks are taking at any given moment

You claim others are liars without having any ability to reason out what you think the lie may be, for example, and you cant answer very simple questions.

You lash out angrily and blindly without thinking, and cannot touch the OP or the followup posts themselves because thats what leftists do thread after thread

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Obama praised what our soldiers accomplished in Iraq, for liberating the people of Iraq and" by extension he praised president Bush and the Iraq war itself"

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


You post this, after dumping how many different tangents to a topic

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Sorry, but I have no such emotional feelings about your posts in this thread, you dont seem to have what it takes to make a significant point

Like the average leftist here the very best you can manage is a weak attack on the messenger. Addressing the topic of discussion is sadly beyond you, and I waste little time worrying about the particular angle your small minded personal attacks are taking at any given moment

You claim others are liars without having any ability to reason out what you think the lie may be, for example, and you cant answer very simple questions.

You lash out angrily and blindly without thinking, and cannot touch the OP or the followup posts themselves because thats what leftists do thread after thread

ANd then you post THIS as a comment

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Obama praised what our soldiers accomplished in Iraq, for liberating the people of Iraq and" by extension he praised president Bush and the Iraq war itself"

And you expect ANYONE to post with anything but disrespect, condescension, sarcasm, outright hilarity and snark.
You couldnt respond to it any other way, except to call it bullshit.
Go ahead make your comments about being unable to respond with weak attacks or derision, or your latin crap. when you post shit like that you deserve what you get.
What a moronic statement to make " by extension he praised president Bush and the Iraq war itself"
did you pick that up while slagging thru drudge or newsmax, or malkins page, or is that a rush meme?
Just askin, because its utter bullshit to anyone not inside your head.
Just because people do not respond to you in the way you understand or like, doesnt make them any less right.

Oh by the way, Im having a whip round to pick up some cash to buy you a REAL dictionary, without the drama llama definitions
Would you prefer Oxford English edition, or Websters?
or there is always the picture version if you feel intimidated by "weal" ones.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Read the Fort Bragg speech (the full text of which I linked to above) and ask yourself, what did he praise the troops for doing

What was the accomplishment

See if you can give yourself an honest answer to that question.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Read the Fort Bragg speech (the full text of which I linked to above) and ask yourself, what did he praise the troops for doing

What was the accomplishment

See if you can give yourself an honest answer to that question.

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I dont expect leftists to intelligently discuss a topic ever, lucy

They prove every day they are completely incapable, which is why they are forced to rely on these personal attacks, phony weak strawmen, ad hominems hijacks and derails etc, day in and day out, thread after thread

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


I dont expect leftists to intelligently discuss a topic ever, lucy

They prove every day they are completely incapable, which is why you rely on these personal attacks, strawmen, and derails etc, day in and day out, thread after thread

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ORIGINAL: Lucylastic


You post this, after dumping how many different tangents to a topic

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Sorry, but I have no such emotional feelings about your posts in this thread, you dont seem to have what it takes to make a significant point

Like the average leftist here the very best you can manage is a weak attack on the messenger. Addressing the topic of discussion is sadly beyond you, and I waste little time worrying about the particular angle your small minded personal attacks are taking at any given moment

You claim others are liars without having any ability to reason out what you think the lie may be, for example, and you cant answer very simple questions.

You lash out angrily and blindly without thinking, and cannot touch the OP or the followup posts themselves because thats what leftists do thread after thread

ANd then you post THIS as a comment

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Obama praised what our soldiers accomplished in Iraq, for liberating the people of Iraq and" by extension he praised president Bush and the Iraq war itself"

And you expect ANYONE to post with anything but disrespect, condescension, sarcasm, outright hilarity and snark.
You couldnt respond to it any other way, except to call it bullshit.
Go ahead make your comments about being unable to respond with weak attacks or derision, or your latin crap. when you post shit like that you deserve what you get.
What a moronic statement to make " by extension he praised president Bush and the Iraq war itself"
did you pick that up while slagging thru drudge or newsmax, or malkins page, or is that a rush meme?
Just askin, because its utter bullshit to anyone not inside your head.
Just because people do not respond to you in the way you understand or like, doesnt make them any less right.

Oh by the way, Im having a whip round to pick up some cash to buy you a REAL dictionary, without the drama llama definitions
Would you prefer Oxford English edition, or Websters?
or there is always the picture version if you feel intimidated by "weal" ones.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

There wont be much covert to it, in my opinion.

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OBAMA: 


But there was one constant - there was one constant - your patriotism, your commitment to fulfil your mission, your abiding commitment to one another. That was constant. That did not change. That did not waiver.

It's harder to end a war than begin one. Indeed, everything that American troops have done in Iraq - all the fighting and all the dying, the bleeding and the building, and the training and the partnering - all of it has led to this moment of success.

Now, Iraq is not a perfect place. It has many challenges ahead. But we're leaving behind a sovereign, stable and self-reliant Iraq, with a representative government that was elected by its people.


We're building a new partnership between our nations. And we are ending a war not with a final battle, but with a final march toward home.

This is an extraordinary achievement, nearly nine years in the making. And today we remember everything that you did to make it possible.

We remember the early days: the American units that streaked across the sands and skies of Iraq, the battles from Karbala to Baghdad, American troops breaking the back of a brutal dictator in less than a month...


...That's why you, the 9/11 Generation, have earned your place in history. Because of you, because you sacrificed so much for a people that you had never met, Iraqis have a chance to forge their own destiny.

That's part of what makes us special as Americans. Unlike the old empires, we don't make these sacrifices for territory or for resources. We do it because it's right.


There can be no fuller expression of America's support for self-determination than our leaving Iraq to its people. That says something about who we are.

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Read the Fort Bragg speech (the full text of which I linked to above) and ask yourself, what did he praise the troops for doing

What was the accomplishment

See if you can give yourself an honest answer to that question.

Leaving Iraq alive.  Killing bin Laden and others, fighting Al Queda.  Enduring the hardships   Certainly nothing about 'freeing' Iraq.

Unless you are reading a speech that he never gave there, heres the one I read, with full text:

http://www2.nbc17.com/news/2011/dec/14/complete-text-president-obamas-speech-fort-bragg-ar-1713958/

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Obama praised what our soldiers accomplished in Iraq, for liberating the people of Iraq and by extension he praised president Bush and the Iraq war itself

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ORIGINAL: Owner59

No banners, no "Mission Accomplished" gloating,no self congratulating like shrub did,A LOT,no swaggering or stealing credit.

Solemn,respectful dignified acknowledgment of 9 years of sacrifice and four thousand five hundred fallen GIs.

A 45 minute ceremony to fold and pack our flag and to mark the end of a long,often horrible mission.

Welcome home, men and women of the United States armed forces,the world`s best.

Job well done and mission accomplished!