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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/18/2011 11:47:48 AM   
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It'd also have to be a mix of fantasy and reality. Surgical blade, not near vital organs and arteries, kinky RNs on site, full first aid, not too deep, etc.


As an RN who also enjoys kink, you wouldnt find me anywhere near that scene. But thats just me.

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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/18/2011 11:54:39 AM   
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It'd also have to be a mix of fantasy and reality. Surgical blade, not near vital organs and arteries, kinky RNs on site, full first aid, not too deep, etc.


As an RN who also enjoys kink, you wouldnt find me anywhere near that scene. But thats just me.


I know a few who would though ;)

Also, what would keep me from this is the same thing that keeps me from playing with venipuncture, I do poorly with blood loss, can't give blood because of it.

Well, actually kinda get close to doing venipuncture since I've been talking with medical friends about safe amounts for me, 4 or 5 vials can still make a lot of mess.

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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/18/2011 12:01:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		4 -5 can be safe, I have drawn that much myself. That I would do in a kink setting. I just have major problems with invading the human body. We all know the "blueprint" of where things are supposed to be inside the body. Problem is, they arent always where they are supposed to be.

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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/18/2011 12:10:43 PM   
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And anything that severe goes through a lot of consideration w/ me.

Even venipuncture has been a year of investigation, thinking and pondering.

And in that case I'd only likely be sick for a few months(which is what happened when I gave blood) if too much blood was drawn.

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4 -5 can be safe, I have drawn that much myself. That I would do in a kink setting. I just have major problems with invading the human body. We all know the "blueprint" of where things are supposed to be inside the body. Problem is, they arent always where they are supposed to be.



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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/18/2011 6:25:40 PM   
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Personally, anything which violates psychological or physiological integrity...

In my case, there's an essential question which must be answered:  "Is this healthy?", with various considerations of physical and psychological health. 



I totally agree. Golf should be considered a mental disorder.

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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/18/2011 6:27:16 PM   
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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/18/2011 8:13:58 PM   
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Honestly, I find stabbing fucking hot, and after semi-accidentally getting stabbed in the hand 2 weeks ago it's something I'm researching, and pondering.
  I find it fucking insane - you don't need a registered nurse, you need a fucking therapist.


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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/18/2011 8:37:29 PM   
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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/18/2011 8:42:11 PM   
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Honestly, I find stabbing fucking hot, and after semi-accidentally getting stabbed in the hand 2 weeks ago it's something I'm researching, and pondering.
  I find it fucking insane - you don't need a registered nurse, you need a fucking therapist.



Gee, guess I should just make an appointment with myself then.

:P

I have a fetish with blood and injuries, ain't gonna do nothing that's gonna maim me or make me die.

If after all the planning and research into any form of play that is a reasonable risk I don't do it.

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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/18/2011 9:00:47 PM   
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Status: offline 		Out of all the people I have seen/heard explain how they go about what it is you want, yours is the most practical. A Risk assessment makes sense. Some people are on the outer edges. From a kink point of view, I can appreciate that. From a medical point of view, I do worry. Sometimes too much knowledge ( in my case) can be a dangerous thing as well.

The most often injured organ is the liver, followed by the intestines, when discussing abdominal stab wounds. In the chest, the lungs can be nicked quite easily.

Question, does cutting not do it for you?

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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/18/2011 9:20:23 PM   
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Out of all the people I have seen/heard explain how they go about what it is you want, yours is the most practical. A Risk assessment makes sense. Some people are on the outer edges. From a kink point of view, I can appreciate that. From a medical point of view, I do worry. Sometimes too much knowledge ( in my case) can be a dangerous thing as well.

The most often injured organ is the liver, followed by the intestines, when discussing abdominal stab wounds. In the chest, the lungs can be nicked quite easily.

Question, does cutting not do it for you?


Cutting does it, and to be honest we don't do cutting play that often, usually every few months. Cutting can be addictive, so we don't do it a lot. It's in the plans for new years, and the time before that was September.

And jesus we're not talking abdominal wounds, that's bordering on suicidal. Maybe in the breast, a quarter to half inch in the thigh with close study of the arteries? Not sure, ain't nothing I'd do any time soon, if ever. Does it turn me on? Yes.

The stabbing story: we were playing with knives and it was an unusual time when we had switched knives (risky), and the point was digging into my hand. We do this all the time without even piercing the skin, but I pushed into it a little bit, and my focused was too divided on doing other evil things and the point drove into my hand probably about a quarter inch. The pain level didn't change. Next thing I knew I was bleeding on fucking everything.

A doc friend of ours handed us a paper plate to collect the blood, and a band-aid. It was awesome, the free flowing amount of blood, the whole shebang.

We cleaned up. When I got home I cleaned it out with hipacleanse, threw on a butterfly and a bandaid. It's healing up fine, gonna have a lovely scar.

It was a fun, happy accident of an experience. Natural to want to manufacturer it somehow, with a reasonable degree of safety.

Also we've gotten crazy enough with the knives a full first aid kit comes along whenever we bring them anywhere, an no one else is allowed to play with them or touch them anymore.



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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/18/2011 9:29:23 PM   
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Why? So she can lead a boring cookie-cutter life in accordance with your narrow view of what is and isn't appropriate?
Yes, because the only alternative to insane behaviour is to live like a robot.  What a stunningly well-constructed argument.


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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/18/2011 9:48:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Oh ok, that clears up a lot for me. I was really trying hard not to assume where.. and I really should have asked. Dont just study the arteries. Take the nerve paths into consideration as well. Its one of the reasons why a shot given in the butt is placed where it is.

When/If you do this, I hope that Dr friend is around. Seriously. A little slip....

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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/19/2011 12:48:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Oddly enough, a friend and I were having a discussion along these lines just a few days ago. Certain things a good portion of people find edgy, we're more like "Eh, its a Tuesday thing." and shrug it off. Perfect example... about a year or two ago I went to a cutting class done by Michael Sol, in which he told a story about how he was asked to leave a kink convention (I don't remember which one) because within a cutting scene, he cut off a tiny bit of flesh from the woman, and "forced" her to eat it.

Both of us had a general wtf reaction. The girl it happened with wasn't calling red on the action, it had been previously negotiated, and there wasn't even an issue of cross-contamination. Hell, I think it'd be hot to do, but only with the right partner who had the right amount of experience and with lots of safety discussion prior. I also didn't realize a lot of asthmatics don't like breath play, until I talked to a few other people who had it, and it was a hard limit of theirs. People I play with are always aware I have it, my rescue inhaler is always within reach, and it'd never crossed my mind not to engage in breath play, because I fucking love it.

So really, its all pretty relative to the people involved. There are a lot of things I find insanely hot that some people would say I should see a therapist for. Some other people have kinks I think the same thing about. However, if I happen to have some huge moral abhorrence to what they're doing, I simply don't participate or don't watch whats going on. They're consenting adults, and I have no place telling them what is right or what is wrong (obvious exception being if I feel something severely dangerous is going on, then I'll alert a DM and have them decide, since its their space).

I don't pretend to have some almighty knowledge of just where that line between kinky and unhealthy is, because for every single act I enjoy, there is a group of people out there who would tell me I'm just fucked in the head to want something like that. So I just go into everything I do with as much research and as many safety precautions under my belt as possible, and weight the risks and rewards. If the rewards win, I can do what I want with a relative amount of safety, then I do it. Simple as that.

((Excuse the rambling post, its nearly three in the morning here ))

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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/19/2011 1:43:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		Could the issue with the convention have been because it was too close to cannibalism?

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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/19/2011 5:19:17 AM   
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Extreme Fred in the Extreme Thread...


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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/19/2011 8:34:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ive come to the conclusion that I dont have issues with what others do to themselves, or have done to them, if that is what they desire.
I guess for me the only issue is consent.While I could not see me doing "some of the more extreme" here in more than fantasy scenarios. I certainly dont put anyone down for it.
Extreme sports are/can be more devastating and hurt more than just the participant.
extreme S&M .. not so much.
Even "crazy" people have rights
I find "hatred" to be more of an ugly issue than someone wanting to be stabbed, by someone she knows for a fantasy fulfilment.
Crazy is subjective



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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/19/2011 10:49:07 AM   
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Could the issue with the convention have been because it was too close to cannibalism?


I didn't ask why, the act in itself just didn't really strike me as anything really edgy, or even particularly dangerous. Like I said, it was a really small bit of skin.

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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/19/2011 11:01:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		I have total issue with people that are into extreme and cant handle it and go into it irresponsibility. Though I don't know everyone's issues - when it goes wrong and the irresponsible becomes an unpaid medical issue or a society issue. I as a tax payer have a huge problem with it.

The chances of these types of things becoming a snafu are much higher and somewhere in the back of my mind common sense tells me, it just doesn't keep to being a individual thing.

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RE: Extreme BDSM / Fetishes - 12/19/2011 11:10:00 AM   
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Status: offline 		I never said anything about people who cant handle it.
a HUGE diffference between someone who is careless with their safety and someone who cant handle it.
Have you ever been to a sporting even where the crowd was nonconsentually hurt? or killed?
how many people die every year diving into caves and deep sea diving
how many people get hurt at a soccer/football/hockey game when fights break out or stands fall or there is a crush of fans.
If you are careless then your omission from the gene pool is gonna happen, wether its breaking neck skiiing, diving and getting the bends , or cutting /hitting someone who wants to be stabbed and or hit.
the bullshit about unpaid medical doesnt work outside the US
and BDSM and "its followers are far from restricted to the US.
puhleeze dont use money as a qualifier



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