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Moonhead -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 9:13:47 AM)
The thing that always amuses me about Rand (and which the Randians always refuse point blank to even recognise, never mind discuss) is the way the plutocrat strike in Atlas Shrugged fails miserably. Nobody even notices that the whining pussy John Galt is narked until him and his cronies start blowing shit up instead. Funny the way all the teabgaggers forgot that when they started talking about how the 1% would flee the country if they were expected to pay taxes, innit? (Still, teh Kenyan reneged on all his election promises, so that turned out to be a storm in a teacup anyway...)

stellauk -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 9:14:12 AM)
In a world of almost 7 billion people some 5.5 billion are adults over the age of 18. An estimated 68% of these adults are struggling to survive or live. Just 6% (six per cent) of the world's financial resources is needed to eliminate poverty forever. This would pay for itself and provide a return within two years. Why isn't it happening? More to the point, the United States and Britain are two integral parts of English language culture - a culture that the whole world wants to share and be a part of. Anyone can be a part of that culture. And the OP feels that people on welfare get too much? I beg to differ, I feel that they don't get enough. Giving people food stamps and subsistence level money for doing nothing clearly isn't working. Forcing people into menial jobs isn't going to work either. We've got to start getting our heads round the concept of employability, and tying welfare payments to performance and effort. People's health and social issues should not be something that employers should be dealing with. These are issues which need to be dealt with and sorted whilst people are still on welfare. I'm of the opinion that everybody knows somebody and everybody is capable of doing something which can sustain or support an income. Being on welfare is failure. It's a failure of not having the opportunities or the inability to make use of opportunities available. The most idiotic thing you can do is to take away further opportunities and money. Welfare needs to be much more than form filling and welfare checks. These government offices need to be resource centres where people can learn new skills, stuff like accounting, bookkeeping, and if they can't find a job then they can receive help in setting themselves up in business or to become self-employed. It needs to be the first point towards opportunities in education, apprenticeships, training. Why isn't this happening? I could write more, but I will leave people to draw their own conclusions.

tazzygirl -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 9:15:02 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle Is that Bill Gates? A guy who inherited his wealth? Inherited from whom and how much? His dad, the rather wealthy lawyer. I think he underwrote Microsoft to a slight extent early on, and he certainly paid for the legal degree Gates dropped out of to start the company. I'm dubious that Gates ever flipped burgers either, come to that... Im sure he didnt. At age 15 he had his first paying job as a computer programmer writing a payroll program, then was hired by his school to write their scheduling program. Before he was 18, he was well on his way. Why would he have to flip burgers and why would anyone dismiss the man because of that? When I see someone say he inherited his money, I keep wondering why he even had to start the companies he has. He may have gotten some from his parents, but the bulk of his estate is directly related to his own work. Its not like he is a Hilton.

tazzygirl -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 9:16:45 AM)
quote: Funny the way all the teabgaggers forgot that when they started talking about how the 1% would flee the country if they were expected to pay taxes, innit? Im still waiting for the physician mass exodus due to health care that was predicted if the law was passed.

Moonhead -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 9:19:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stellauk I'm of the opinion that everybody knows somebody and everybody is capable of doing something which can sustain or support an income. Dead right in the majority of cases. Sadly, there just aren't enough opportunities for even low level menial jobs since the manufacturing and production jobs that used to sustain the working class have been outsourced to countries where cheap bastards who are reluctant to pay their employees can get a week's work for what would be a couple of hour's wages in the UK or the 'States.

mnottertail -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 9:32:28 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead Nobody even notices that the whining pussy John Galt is narked until him and his cronies start blowing shit up instead. Of course like wall street, his company got paid to fix and refuck up the shit he blew up, again and again. None dare call it socialism. John A Stormer

Lucylastic -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 10:09:52 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: stellauk In a world of almost 7 billion people some 5.5 billion are adults over the age of 18. An estimated 68% of these adults are struggling to survive or live. Just 6% (six per cent) of the world's financial resources is needed to eliminate poverty forever. This would pay for itself and provide a return within two years. Why isn't it happening? More to the point, the United States and Britain are two integral parts of English language culture - a culture that the whole world wants to share and be a part of. Anyone can be a part of that culture. And the OP feels that people on welfare get too much? I beg to differ, I feel that they don't get enough. Giving people food stamps and subsistence level money for doing nothing clearly isn't working. Forcing people into menial jobs isn't going to work either. We've got to start getting our heads round the concept of employability, and tying welfare payments to performance and effort. People's health and social issues should not be something that employers should be dealing with. These are issues which need to be dealt with and sorted whilst people are still on welfare. I'm of the opinion that everybody knows somebody and everybody is capable of doing something which can sustain or support an income. Being on welfare is failure. It's a failure of not having the opportunities or the inability to make use of opportunities available. The most idiotic thing you can do is to take away further opportunities and money. Welfare needs to be much more than form filling and welfare checks. These government offices need to be resource centres where people can learn new skills, stuff like accounting, bookkeeping, and if they can't find a job then they can receive help in setting themselves up in business or to become self-employed. It needs to be the first point towards opportunities in education, apprenticeships, training. Why isn't this happening? I could write more, but I will leave people to draw their own conclusions. I <3 Stella

tj444 -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 10:14:03 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle If Paris Hilton is so smart, let her earn her own fortune. Actually, she does earn her own fortune!!! She may earn it easier than a job flipping burgers but she does work and earn money, she doesnt just sit on her ass. "The ubiquitous heiress may not be as wealthy as she'd like you to think. But she is piling up her own personal fortune as brand spokesman, reality TV fixture, B-list movie starlet and bestselling author. Paris also puts out her own perfume and jewelry. Call them her day jobs; at night Paris gets paid big bucks to show her face at of-the-minute clubs, commanding up to $300,000 per appearance abroad." http://www.forbes.com/lists/2005/53/U3HH.html

farglebargle -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 10:18:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: Moonhead quote: ORIGINAL: tazzygirl quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle Is that Bill Gates? A guy who inherited his wealth? Inherited from whom and how much? His dad, the rather wealthy lawyer. I think he underwrote Microsoft to a slight extent early on, and he certainly paid for the legal degree Gates dropped out of to start the company. I'm dubious that Gates ever flipped burgers either, come to that... Im sure he didnt. At age 15 he had his first paying job as a computer programmer writing a payroll program, then was hired by his school to write their scheduling program. Before he was 18, he was well on his way. Why would he have to flip burgers and why would anyone dismiss the man because of that? When I see someone say he inherited his money, I keep wondering why he even had to start the companies he has. He may have gotten some from his parents, but the bulk of his estate is directly related to his own work. Its not like he is a Hilton. No-one at IBM would have given him the time of day if he wasn't Bill from Preston Gates' kid

mnottertail -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 10:27:57 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle If Paris Hilton is so smart, let her earn her own fortune. Actually, she does earn her own fortune!!! She may earn it easier than a job flipping burgers but she does work and earn money, she doesnt just sit on her ass. "The ubiquitous heiress may not be as wealthy as she'd like you to think. But she is piling up her own personal fortune as brand spokesman, reality TV fixture, B-list movie starlet and bestselling author. Paris also puts out her own perfume and jewelry. Call them her day jobs; at night Paris gets paid big bucks to show her face at of-the-minute clubs, commanding up to $300,000 per appearance abroad." http://www.forbes.com/lists/2005/53/U3HH.html Give me several million bucks or the name to trade on and I can earn my own fortune as well. Hell,

Lucylastic -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 10:31:06 AM)
no wonder, actual working people pissed when they get the shaft paying for people like that

tj444 -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 10:40:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle If Paris Hilton is so smart, let her earn her own fortune. Actually, she does earn her own fortune!!! She may earn it easier than a job flipping burgers but she does work and earn money, she doesnt just sit on her ass. "The ubiquitous heiress may not be as wealthy as she'd like you to think. But she is piling up her own personal fortune as brand spokesman, reality TV fixture, B-list movie starlet and bestselling author. Paris also puts out her own perfume and jewelry. Call them her day jobs; at night Paris gets paid big bucks to show her face at of-the-minute clubs, commanding up to $300,000 per appearance abroad." http://www.forbes.com/lists/2005/53/U3HH.html Give me several million bucks or the name to trade on and I can earn my own fortune as well. Hell, Fargle so rarely gets anything right, this is just another case of that.. She doesnt have any inheritance yet, that i am aware of, and the point was that she does work.. and i think it basically started with that sex tape.. so she turned lemons into lemonade.. and a lot of green.. Not the way i would do it but hey, it worked for her.. Just cuz someone might get an inheritance some day, doesnt mean they are lazy entitled people snorting coke while waiting for someone to die.. just like not all people on welfare are lazy and want something for nothing..

Moonhead -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 10:59:35 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle No-one at IBM would have given him the time of day if he wasn't Bill from Preston Gates' kid Not actually true: they were also talking to Gary Kildall, who definitely wasn't related to anybody at Preston Gates.

farglebargle -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 12:41:58 PM)
Yeah, and look what happened to him...

Moonhead -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 12:49:12 PM)
Actually, Gates got the contract because Kildall wasn't available to talk to big blue, and his wife was unwilling to make promises she was unsure they'd be able to keep. (Unlike Gates, who promised the moon on a stick regardless of what was doable...) That isn't the point though: the point is that they were talking to Kildall, or at least his other half and co manager, so namedropping wouldn't have been the only reason Gates got the gig.

tazzygirl -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 1:22:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: mnottertail quote: ORIGINAL: tj444 quote: ORIGINAL: farglebargle If Paris Hilton is so smart, let her earn her own fortune. Actually, she does earn her own fortune!!! She may earn it easier than a job flipping burgers but she does work and earn money, she doesnt just sit on her ass. "The ubiquitous heiress may not be as wealthy as she'd like you to think. But she is piling up her own personal fortune as brand spokesman, reality TV fixture, B-list movie starlet and bestselling author. Paris also puts out her own perfume and jewelry. Call them her day jobs; at night Paris gets paid big bucks to show her face at of-the-minute clubs, commanding up to $300,000 per appearance abroad." http://www.forbes.com/lists/2005/53/U3HH.html Give me several million bucks or the name to trade on and I can earn my own fortune as well. Hell, Yep, between 2005 and 2007, Paris worked so hard and impressed Barron so much that he all but disinherited her. http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/12/26/uk-hilton-charity-idUKN2636653220071226

mnottertail -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 1:38:34 PM)
LOL like father like son. She should sue him. Earn it like the old man did.

Moonhead -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 3:21:44 PM)
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mnottertail -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 3:22:18 PM)
Yeah, pwned.

Moonhead -> RE: 11 rules your Kids did not learn in school (12/22/2011 3:27:11 PM)
And then some.

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