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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/6/2012 10:06:27 AM   
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Just bring me flowers and candy.  Sterling roses and some variety of Reese's and I'll put out.  A Gamestop gift card (or one to a fantastic salon) and play with my hair and I'm yours.

Mystery solved.



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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/6/2012 10:26:59 AM   
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are times when we must leave our comfort zone or what we know and try something new… something that might open a few doors or enhance our life. Isn’t that something that a dominant will try to do? .




In business, both women and men are often challenged by their superiors to "get out of your comfort zone" or "think outside the box". These are common cliches ...

Some of the reasoning behind them is you cannot be innovative, creative or moving forward by sticking to the same old, same old ...

And if this is the case, these same cliches apply outside of business, too. So this is a very good point made, even though you phrased it as a question.



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Are women to be catered to… bought… pampered and are only allowed this one position in life? I see this position as very wonderful in ways as I think everyone should be pampered, nurtured and pleased, but I also see that a woman strong in herself will not fit that box women have been placed in, have placed themselves in and have accepted because it is easy to be there.


Even as i was one of a number of men who earlier posted they would be: clumsy, be outside thier comfort zone, etc; if being courted by a Lady, i still have an appreciation for this reasoning.

After all, would I as a man, really want to be with a Woman who wasn't strong in Herself? No, i wouldn't. Especially if she was a Dominant!




While I will deliberately choose to avoid the "new to the lifestyle" aspect mentioned in an earlier post(s), I will say it is very uncommon in 2012 for a Woman to court a man.

But for Women who wish to get out of their comfort zone, courting a man offers a New Frontier to explore. And frankly, it is also pushing limits and buttons. Just in a different way.

A way that would be mutually beneficial to both sexes ...

So after following this thread for several days, i have resolved to pay extra attention to any Lady i detect attempting to court in the future.

Because i have realized She will be actually demonstrating personality traits that i want to be with.


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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/6/2012 10:29:28 AM   
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Just bring me flowers and candy.  Sterling roses and some variety of Reese's and I'll put out.  A Gamestop gift card (or one to a fantastic salon) and play with my hair and I'm yours.

Mystery solved.



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Haha. I'd like to think I'm pretty easy.
I just need it to be really obvious. like "grab me by my hair, toss me around and tell me what to do" kind of obvious.

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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/6/2012 10:32:06 AM   
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I think most men are like that, Servuspet. Heaven knows I try, but they just don't seem programmed to "get it", and worse, they don't seem to notice when THEY are dishing it out, so the mixed signals issue adds to the problem.

How anyone gets together rather mystifies me some days. Well, most days!

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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/6/2012 10:36:37 AM   
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I think most men are like that, Servuspet. Heaven knows I try, but they just don't seem programmed to "get it", and worse, they don't seem to notice when THEY are dishing it out, so the mixed signals issue adds to the problem.

How anyone gets together rather mystifies me some days. Well, most days!


Gee, and here I became a submissive because I didn't think I would have to pick up on signals.

Or maybe I just need that liquid courage.

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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/6/2012 10:41:24 AM   
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If I have to overtake him physically rather than invade his mind... we have already lost.

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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/6/2012 10:42:02 AM   
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Showing up to stuff and not being a douche are pretty much all it takes, really.

Though you should probably not listen to me, I am =FAIL! evidently.

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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/6/2012 10:44:28 AM   
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Well in all seriousness, if I'm in a situation where I would let that work, she's already in my head.

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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/6/2012 10:49:46 AM   
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Nice... 

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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/6/2012 5:57:11 PM   
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I think my answer to this is dependent upon your definition of "courting." If by courting, you mean paying attention to, communicating with, and doing nice things for, then certainly I like being courted, I think most people male or female enjoy being made to feel appreciated, enjoyed, desired etc.

On the other hand, while I appreciate giving and recieving small gifts that are useful or have personal meaning of some sort, I'm not huge on giving or recieving a bunch of gifts as if the simple act of giving something is showing personal attention or courting. If a woman is buying me clothes, I'm likely to feel she is trying to tell me something about my wardrobe. Interestingly, if a woman starts buying me drinks out of the blue (and we are not already well established friends) I tend to feel that I'm expected to "put out." That may not be a bad thing, but I tend to feel "expected" to. On the other hand, if I buy a drink for a woman, I'm certainly not expecting anything beyond some conversation in return. I guess there is a socialized gender component to it all. If a woman buys me flowers I'm probably going to be looking around for a trash can to dump them in when she is not looking.

I'm not sure the whole dominant/submissive role plays a huge part in my thoughts on this. Truth be told, I think I have on average found vanilla women to be more aggressive and forward in terms of making initial contact, indicating what they are looking for early on, and making the "first move." I have met some women in vanilla settings who were very forward wh turned out to be very kinky and sadistic, but in situations where we both knew the other was kinky, I have found the expectation to be that I will at least make the intial contact and be the one to try to get the interaction going. At some point along the way, the woman will typically play a far more forward role in the process. I have no explanation for any of these dynamics and as only one person, I wouldn't even attempt to draw any conclusion from them.

In my experience, words are generally the most important and effective means of "courting" during the early stages in any setting and just to reiterate, I do find being courted in that regard to be enjoyable and I equally enjoy courting in that manner. Dominance, submission, sadism, masochism, etc are personal and sexual traits that have big impacts on relationships, but I do not see them as absolutely dictating how people get to know each other and since I tend to see the roles primarily in the "bedroom" I don't even think they have a huge impact on interaction during more vanilla day to day activities.

When it comes to "playing" on the other hand, there has to be some level of seduction or forwardness from the sadist/domme. I'm not going to tie myself up and try to crawl over to a sadistic woman asking to be beaten. I'm not going to grab her hand and place it on my hair and tell her to pull. I may try to initiate more vanilla sexual activities with a dominant woman once we have an established relationship and I may indicate an interest in playing, but as a bottom/masochist, I won't initiate play beyond occasionally poking, pinhcing, pulling hair etc. I guess i'm not including this part of a relationship as courting.

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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/7/2012 4:13:03 AM   
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I think many (most?) submissive men look for pushiness in a Dominant female.  In fact, if they don't see any, they're likely to assume that she's "too nice", and simply move on. 

I'll announce myself as an exception on that, Roch. From your earlier post on this thread and other, similar of your comments, I know this goes to an important matter for you. 'Too nice' doesn't exist for me. On the other hand I've come across 'too pushy' before and been repelled by it. It all too often feels too cold for me.

I wish I had ESP!



Well, NBMG, some males would be glad of your having ESP, whilst others would hate it.

I hope that helps. ;-)

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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/7/2012 9:17:24 PM   
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I absolutely love courting a man - or, the process of seduction. I like to be the pursuer. That doesn't mean I don't like to be pursued, of course. But I get more of an erotic thrill from the process of showing a man I am interested in him and in the process doing things to show him he is on my mind or desired.

There's a man I am courting currently, despite being incredibly busy, and it's simple but incredibly rewarding. Every few weeks I send him a new toy from my favorite kink store, and it's building his collection. When he receives these items, he has assignments to do. He doesn't have a lot of money right now, so I also enjoy sending him gift cards for food, etc. He hasn't asked for anything and is rather proud, so I enjoy it.

When I was romantically chasing after men I did everything from fly them along on business trips with me to take them shopping and pick out and buy clothes I liked to see them in. I guess this crosses the line between "courtship" and "kept man" and into my objectification rich woman/poor street urchin fantasies, but I always go back to that. Even in high school my dark fantasies involved becoming self made so I could have boytoys at my whim and eye candy around and always be in control. I settled into a much more realistic lifestyle but I still indulge in the "kept man" fantasy by financially taking charge if I am in heavy pursuit mode -- that is to say, I pay for everything and he pays for nothing.

Akasha


I see a lot of me in that post... LOL. I too have had those tendencies in the past, but have taught myself of late to curtail such behavior.. mostly because while aI enjoy doing such things, when they start being expected & not appreciated.. I get a bit fucking irritated. I don't mind keeping a man/slave on my terms, but start being demanding and you have to fucking go. Occasionally, I will still indulge the urge tho if the subject is worthy.


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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/8/2012 9:00:28 AM   
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I dont know..I express interest... I think Im thoughtful and open with them.. and blank...nothing.. Ive come to conclude.. Men are flakes..lol..

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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/8/2012 10:10:55 AM   
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Courted, or seduced?

and is there a difference?

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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/8/2012 11:33:31 AM   
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Courted. The attention and pressies stuff.

Which can lead to seduction, of course.

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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/8/2012 12:37:26 PM   
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Mind you, 'seduced' is good, too. The phwoargh stuff works for me. Yes indeedy.

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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/8/2012 12:41:18 PM   
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Further to my last: I think one of you women should start a 'seducing sub males' thread.

(I'd start one myself, except it'd look like a ouanquer thread. This is because it would, in fact, *be* a ouanquer thread.)

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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/8/2012 12:54:41 PM   
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Hmmmm....I suspect I'm no better at seduction than I am at courtship.



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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/8/2012 1:35:19 PM   
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Hmmmm....I suspect I'm no better at seduction than I am at courtship.




I'll be the judge of that.

Anyway, I stated my requirement for a 'submale seduction' thread nearly an hour ago.

Get on with it.


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RE: Courting a male submissive - 1/8/2012 2:17:06 PM   
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Sorry, Darling, a bacon sarnie was calling me! A lady has her priorities...

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