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Moonhead -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 8:07:00 AM)

If you're communicating in a forum where all communication is written, that lack of giving a damn could well be seen as at least a little stupid, I'd have thought.



LaTigresse -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 8:11:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Moonhead

If you're communicating in a forum where all communication is written, that lack of giving a damn could well be seen as at least a little stupid, I'd have thought.


Or a lack of caring what the 'audience' thinks about them. When in doubt, I try to assume neither.



Moonhead -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 8:16:13 AM)

Fair enough.
If an audience knows you only through prose, and you can't even be arsed to make an effort to try to get that right, then a certain disdain from people who can be arsed to make the effort is only natural, though.
(And there's quite a difference between that and somebody who starts throwing a histrionic shitfit about typos or split infinitives after every other attampt to shoot somebody they don't like down has failed. The way the two are being run together in this thread is a bit depressing, really.)



Arienos -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 8:20:35 AM)

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I realize some do not. That doesnt mean everyone who posts poorly isnt struggling.


Interestingly English grammar or even the spoken and written words used in the United States have absolutely nothing at all to do with communication and achieving desired result when negotiating with three or four people speaking a different language. Limiting ones self to a single language is where the ignorance comes in.

I had an English teacher in the tenth grade give me a book reading and writing assignment, I responded with the first two pages written in Italian, the next two pages in the Shoshone language and the final eleven pages written separately in Comanche, Kiowa, Apache and Caddo. She ask me what is this, I ask her, are you to ignorant to read it and on my way home after getting kicked out of school stopped by the BIA office to share my little tale with the dumb Indians working there. The dumb Indians that taught me their language.



tazzygirl -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 9:19:30 AM)

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This one bug's hell out of me too. And for some reason it seem's much more prevalent these day's. So Kali, dear, would you please go feed the horse's, dog's and cat's?


Seriously, I don't recall seeing this mistake so much in the past as I have in the last few years. Anyone else notice it seems to be a fairly recent phenomenon?


Yet the majority on these boards, according to Jello, are at least high school graduates and should know better.



tazzygirl -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 9:23:15 AM)

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While that is possible, you should not assume it. The one I mentioned was a 20 year old white girl from the states.


You are right. I would rather err on the side of caution. For many, especially here, the desire to communicate gets all wrapped up in the emotions. Trying to express yourself when new to a lifestyle that is considered "deviant" is very daunting initially.



tazzygirl -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 9:27:16 AM)

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split infinitives


Gesh, I forgot about that little fucker. I still cant diagram a sentence to save my life. And the only splits I truly care about are the split ends that tell me i need a trim.

You actually sit there, read a post, and count the number of split infinitives they have? Wow, I need to hide my dangling participles.



tazzygirl -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 9:30:32 AM)

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Limiting ones self to a single language is where the ignorance comes in.


So if someone only knows one language fluently, they are ignorant.

Nice.

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I had an English teacher in the tenth grade give me a book reading and writing assignment, I responded with the first two pages written in Italian, the next two pages in the Shoshone language and the final eleven pages written separately in Comanche, Kiowa, Apache and Caddo. She ask me what is this, I ask her, are you to ignorant to read it and on my way home after getting kicked out of school stopped by the BIA office to share my little tale with the dumb Indians working there. The dumb Indians that taught me their language.


You failed to realize it was an English class?

All you showed was your arrogance.

Being a pompous prick doesnt indicate intelligence. Its rather a mark of stupidity.



mnottertail -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 9:31:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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split infinitives


Gesh, I forgot about that little fucker. I still cant diagram a sentence to save my life. And the only splits I truly care about are the split ends that tell me i need a trim.

You actually sit there, read a post, and count the number of split infinitives they have? Wow, I need to hide my dangling participles.


To infinity AND beyond.

Buzz Lightyear.



tazzygirl -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 9:32:07 AM)

Buzz.. my hero!



mnottertail -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 9:38:47 AM)

I had an English teacher in the tenth grade give me a book reading and writing assignment, I responded with the first two pages written in Italian, the next two pages in the Shoshone language and the final eleven pages written separately in Comanche, Kiowa, Apache and Caddo.

Run on sentence.


She ask me what is this, I ask her, are you to ignorant to read it and on my way home after getting kicked out of school stopped by the BIA office to share my little tale with the dumb Indians working there. The dumb Indians that taught me their language.

asked,  after the word this, it should be a question mark.  New sentence, again asked, the first to should be a too, run on sentence.  



tazzygirl -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 9:46:13 AM)

I almost went there, but I felt benevolent today. [:D]



mnottertail -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 9:47:18 AM)

Say it in Ojibwe.



DesFIP -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 9:50:25 AM)

Random thought: if you have a learning disability, or English is not your first language, or are responding from a phone you will get hassled less if you add this to your signature line.



Kirata -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 9:57:19 AM)


Interestingly, for English grammar to have anything at all to do with communication you first have to use it.

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ORIGINAL: Arienos

Interestingly, English grammar or even the spoken and written words used in the United States have absolutely nothing at all to do with communication and achieving (the or a) desired result when negotiating with three or four people speaking a different language. Limiting ones self oneself to a single language is where the ignorance comes in.

I had an English teacher in the tenth grade give me a book reading and writing assignment. I responded with the first two pages written in Italian, the next two pages in the Shoshone language and the final eleven pages written separately in Comanche, Kiowa, Apache and Caddo. She ask asked me, "What is this?" I ask asked her, "Are you to too ignorant to read it?" and on my way home, after getting kicked out of school, stopped by the BIA office to share my little tale with the dumb Indians working there. The dumb Indians that who taught me their language.

There's really no way to save this wreck, but at least I cleaned it up enough to look slightly better than illiterate.

You're welcome.

K.



Fetters4U -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 11:33:25 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Arienos
I had an English teacher in the tenth grade give me a book reading and writing assignment, I responded with the first two pages written in Italian, the next two pages in the Shoshone language and the final eleven pages written separately in Comanche, Kiowa, Apache and Caddo. She ask me what is this, I ask her, are you to ignorant to read it and on my way home after getting kicked out of school stopped by the BIA office to share my little tale with the dumb Indians working there. The dumb Indians that taught me their language.


An English writing assignment should be written in English. I bet those wise old Indians knew that. After all, if they had not taken the trouble to learn English (or some other language you knew), they could not have taught you anything. What if you had turned in a Shoshone writing assignment in Italian, then called that teacher ignorant and been kicked out? Would you think that was clever too?




tazzygirl -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 11:46:58 AM)


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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

Say it in Ojibwe.


Mis eya tka iyaye heci, tka mis eya epata wacatkiya.

My best effort.



Lucylastic -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 12:26:25 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

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Limiting ones self to a single language is where the ignorance comes in.


So if someone only knows one language fluently, they are ignorant.

Nice.

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I had an English teacher in the tenth grade give me a book reading and writing assignment, I responded with the first two pages written in Italian, the next two pages in the Shoshone language and the final eleven pages written separately in Comanche, Kiowa, Apache and Caddo. She ask me what is this, I ask her, are you to ignorant to read it and on my way home after getting kicked out of school stopped by the BIA office to share my little tale with the dumb Indians working there. The dumb Indians that taught me their language.


You failed to realize it was an English class?

All you showed was your arrogance.

Being a pompous prick doesnt indicate intelligence. Its rather a mark of stupidity.

THis



Moonhead -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 12:35:41 PM)


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
You actually sit there, read a post, and count the number of split infinitives they have? Wow, I need to hide my dangling participles.

Of course I fucking don't: read what I posted again, and take note of the context in which I mentioned split infinitives.
(I like Star Trek, me...)



Lucylastic -> RE: Intelligence vs writing (1/11/2012 12:38:59 PM)

I caught my dangling participles once, you need to strap them close to your body to stop them fraying



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