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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 7:52:00 AM   
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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 7:58:46 AM   
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I would like to see before and after photos of both opponents!

"Annnnnnnnd in THIS corrrrrrrrnnnnnneeeeeeeerrrr.....!!!!"

lol i suppose its a good thing there were no knives handy... the guy might have awoken to finding out his wee-wee was cut off.. maybe he should be grateful it was only his hand..

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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:03:16 AM   
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Thanks I will be honest I probably should have explained it in more detail though this wasn't some innocent feeling up he did according to her he pretty much attacked her because he had her against a wall she head butted him and started punching him in the face repeatedly until he lost consciousness now at that point she was really pissed off so she slammed her spiked heel into his hand. Anybody still think she over reacted?


My sympathy has left the building.

She's in the wrong profession.  She'd be great as a combat instructor.  Probably easier to get insurance for that, too.


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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:05:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		ok, wasnt going to bring this up, but hearing that she neutralized the situation BEFORE the hand breaking... yeah, im pulling this card....

anybody remember in American History X when Derek stopped the guys from stealing his car by shooting them? legally the only reaction the police wouldve had towards him wouldve been if his gun had been gotten illegally, BUT THEN! he decides to take it that one step further by dragging an unarmed wounded man to the curb and stomping on his head to kill him.

thats when the law comes in, thats why he went to jail. wasnt for killing the armed people breaking into his car, it was for taking the person he already disarmed and killing him

so... yeah, once the threat is neutralized, you really have to call the cops and make a full report. not to say this person was really a threat seeing as he reached for her and she beat the shit out of him.... wow... just dont know what to say to that

*breaks out my wonderful sing-song voice!* i think sombody needs therapy


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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:11:14 AM   
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First you countersue, then after that has sunk in a bit for the dude, then you try to settle..

Well, if ya really wanna play hardball, you charge him with sexual assault first-have the law show up at his place of work or home and arrest him. That's a real shot across the prow.
Course, at that point, he'll file battery charges and then things can begin to get really ugly

But the question is what's best for her in the long run, so she needs to do a cost/benefit analysis. Countersuing costs money-lawyers ain't cheap. And barracuda's charge thousands per hour.

Not to mention the damage she is doing to her reputation, professional and otherwise.
What's a broken hand cost-a few thousand? That would probably be cheaper in the long run than the legal machinations.
Pay, learn something about controlling your temper and the price for failing to do so, consider it a slightly expensive lesson (Hey-I've learned million dollar lessons in my life), cut the losses and move on. That's my feedback.

I guess it depends on how many millions this guy is suing for in the first place.. She may be trying to settle as we speak (since the OP has said "why does she have to pay?") I really dont know.. people in the US have been known to go a tad overboard.. like the guy that sued his drycleaner for something like a million bucks cuz his pants were damaged.. or the time McDonalds was sued cuz their coffee was too hot.. If he is one of those types then he might not want to settle or be reasonable about it..

I would think her profession would be fraught with all sorts of liability issues..

What I'm asking is why the hell does he get away with attacking her but she has pay him for his so called pain and suffering!


Because she busted his hand AFTER she already knocked his ass out. She fucked up and let her temper get the best of him. It was one thing to incapacitate him to get away. It is another thing entirely to continue to beat up on him after he is already incapacitated. Had she knocked his ass out and THEN restrained him and called the cops it would be an entirely different situation.

And you want to trust your safety with this woman? Were you dropped on your head as a child?

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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:23:06 AM   
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Thanks I will be honest I probably should have explained it in more detail though this wasn't some innocent feeling up he did according to her he pretty much attacked her because he had her against a wall she head butted him and started punching him in the face repeatedly until he lost consciousness now at that point she was really pissed off so she slammed her spiked heel into his hand. Anybody still think she over reacted?


And then what happened? Did she call the cops or did he?

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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:26:19 AM   
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Thanks I will be honest I probably should have explained it in more detail though this wasn't some innocent feeling up he did according to her he pretty much attacked her because he had her against a wall she head butted him and started punching him in the face repeatedly until he lost consciousness now at that point she was really pissed off so she slammed her spiked heel into his hand. Anybody still think she over reacted?


And then what happened? Did she call the cops or did he?



oh no, dont ask what happened next, im half afraid its going to be revealed that after that she took out her gun


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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:28:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Punched him repeatedly to the point he passed out, and then broke his hand with her spiked heel..and you can't figure out why she's in the wrong? Really? She can't control herself. That doesn't send you packing??

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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:29:34 AM   
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Thanks I will be honest I probably should have explained it in more detail though this wasn't some innocent feeling up he did according to her he pretty much attacked her because he had her against a wall she head butted him and started punching him in the face repeatedly until he lost consciousness now at that point she was really pissed off so she slammed her spiked heel into his hand. Anybody still think she over reacted?


And then what happened? Did she call the cops or did he?


She did and she was completely terrified(even though he was restrained she was found hiding in a closet like scarred child) from what I understand I suspect something like this has happened to her before.

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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:30:41 AM   
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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:31:37 AM   
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Thanks I will be honest I probably should have explained it in more detail though this wasn't some innocent feeling up he did according to her he pretty much attacked her because he had her against a wall she head butted him and started punching him in the face repeatedly until he lost consciousness now at that point she was really pissed off so she slammed her spiked heel into his hand. Anybody still think she over reacted?


And then what happened? Did she call the cops or did he?


She did and she was completely terrified(even though he was restrained she was found hiding in a closet like scarred child) from what I understand I suspect something like this has happened to her before.


Which would explain the out of proportion reaction.
It also makes me wonder WTF she is doing as a pro-domme if that's the case?



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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:32:57 AM   
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It also makes me wonder WTF she is doing as a pro-domme if that's the case?





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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:33:26 AM   
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Status: offline 		What I want to know is how did she slam a spiked heel into someones hand hard enough to break it but not at the same time put the spike through his hand. You know it only takes about 3lbs. of pressure to break any given bone in the human body but it doesn't take half as much to break the skin.

Having said that. Your domme seems to be having a lot of issues lately and I would suggest she pay him because she did break the law, shut him up, get out of the business, and above all else...seek help from a professonal with what is going on in her head.

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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:34:08 AM   
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Thanks I will be honest I probably should have explained it in more detail though this wasn't some innocent feeling up he did according to her he pretty much attacked her because he had her against a wall she head butted him and started punching him in the face repeatedly until he lost consciousness now at that point she was really pissed off so she slammed her spiked heel into his hand. Anybody still think she over reacted?


And then what happened? Did she call the cops or did he?

She did and she was completely terrified(even though he was restrained she was found hiding in a closet like scarred child) from what I understand I suspect something like this has happened to her before.

did the cops charge him (or her) with anything?

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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:36:39 AM   
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I probably should have explained it in more detail though this wasn't some innocent feeling up he did according to her he pretty much attacked her because he had her against a wall she head butted him and started punching him in the face repeatedly until he lost consciousness now at that point she was really pissed off so she slammed her spiked heel into his hand. Anybody still think she over reacted?


Did you actually think that this additional information would make us more sympathetic towards her?  If anything, you've made her appear to be EVEN MORE psychotic and out of control.  She's lucky that you're not her lawyer. 

But to answer your question; yeah, I still think she over-reacted.

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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:37:16 AM   
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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:39:14 AM   
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It also makes me wonder WTF she is doing as a pro-domme if that's the case?





Kinda risky way to do it, eh?
Sets up the self replicating cycle syndrome beautifully...


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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:39:52 AM   
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from what I understand I suspect something like this has happened to her before.


Crap.  She went into a flashback and lost it.  I had wondered if her overreaction was due to previous trauma.

So he was restrained and STILL got her against a wall?  Wow.

While I still say there's something fishy (he was restrained and came after her), I repeat that she's not safe and should not be doing Pro Domme work.  She's had one nasty experience in which she:

1. Did not have adequate safeguards to protect against clients.
2. Went out of control and seriously assaulted a client.  (Yes, Samhain, I know your position here, but the truth is that as the Domme, she was responsible for both her safety and that of her client, even if the client gets out of hand.)
3. After the assault, lost her head and called the cops instead of getting medical help.

If she does decide to continue, have her rent a booth in a dungeon where others can keep an eye on her if she loses it again.  Sorta like a kinky hair salon setup.


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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:44:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am going to admit right off the cuff that I am fairly cynical...

Now that we've established that: I have to ask whether or not you've met your Mistress in the flesh or if you serve in the wispy mists of cyberspace?

It could be true but it strains credulity to imagine a guy who paid a woman to dominate him then attempted to get fresh (or assaults her) to set himself and his family up for the ridicule that would come from a lawsuit. The circumstances of which just scream "TOP STORY ON SLOW NEWS DAY" Let's face it, the public perception of what we do is fairly cartoonish - this guy would have to admit that not only did he pay a woman to beat him up but she beat the crap out of him. Will he use "safe word" as the foundation for his lawsuit? He paid her to rough him up just not as badly as she did?

Next on my list: If his hand was broken - and he went to the emergency room: 1. He admits how it happened and the police are called since he was assaulted or 2. He lies which means that he has no evidence that he was assaulted and no basis for a lawsuit. How does he prove that she did it?

So tell me... did she ask you for the money to pay the lawyer to defend herself or did she weep on your shoulder about the brute and then you offered to pay her legal fees?

If, on the other hand, you know this woman and actually serve her I suggest that you re-evaluate exactly how safe you are in the care of a woman who would break the hand of a person she punched into unconsciousness. That kind of "blind rage" screams fairly deep psychological issues and a burning need for therapy and medication.



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RE: Why does she have to pay for this? - 1/11/2012 8:45:05 AM   
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from what I understand I suspect something like this has happened to her before.


Crap.  She went into a flashback and lost it.  I had wondered if her overreaction was due to previous trauma.

So he was restrained and STILL got her against a wall? Wow.
While I still say there's something fishy (he was restrained and came after her), I repeat that she's not safe and should not be doing Pro Domme work.  She's had one nasty experience in which she:

1. Did not have adequate safeguards to protect against clients.
2. Went out of control and seriously assaulted a client.  (Yes, Samhain, I know your position here, but the truth is that as the Domme, she was responsible for both her safety and that of her client, even if the client gets out of hand.)
3. After the assault, lost her head and called the cops instead of getting medical help.

If she does decide to continue, have her rent a booth in a dungeon where others can keep an eye on her if she loses it again.  Sorta like a kinky hair salon setup.


No she restrained him after knocking him out and breaking his hand but still went and hid.

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