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Something I've never understood about financial Dominat... - 1/13/2012 6:43:44 AM   
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Okay I have not been on this site long but I know that financial tributes and domination seem to be of common practice. I kinda think it can be more of an act of submission than dominance. Now I have been on a lot of femdom(I'm not saying it's only Female Doms doing this nor am I singling them out) sites and something struck me as odd I have seen Pro's that want slaves to literally pay for everything in their lives. From small payments in the mail to paying for their bills and rent. I then realized 'Aren't they allowing themselves to become dependent on their subs/slaves?'

Which got me thinking if a Dominate male or female or transgendered dominate allowed their entire finances to be at the mercy of a complete stranger wouldn't they be putting themselves at that person's mercy? I mean look at this way your doing fine then you piss off a sub/slave that pays your bills and rent and because you have no other sub/slave that can pay this kind of money and you don't have any other source of income or money stashed away(even if you did it only be temporary fix) you have to either take this sub/slave back and adhere to their demands(like they wont have any especially if you pissed them off), find a job (in this economy good luck with that) or move back in with mom and dad.

So in short if not done responsibly can it be a form of submission being dependent on the money of subs/slaves be an act of submission?
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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 6:48:31 AM   
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Theres usually alot of financial domination questions in these groups.This is the first time I have seen a question like this.Actually sounds like an interesting question.

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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 6:49:37 AM   
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financial tributes and domination seem to be of common practice


I would say it's less of a common practice than receiving tributes is a common fantasy of young women or those purporting to be such.

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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 6:53:57 AM   
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Here comes the know it all community to tell you how wrong you are.Why are you wrong?Who know,because "they" said so.



??????


I see a person asking a question about perspective.


To the OP:

Fin dom is not my kink....at all, but I don't have a problem with it in general.

This being said, it seems (from the profiles/ads I've seen) that the goal of the findomme is to get as many "pay pigs" as possible to spread the risk around. She would have to be foolish to depend on only one financial slave to provide for everything, or even just the big ticket items rather than pooling the resources. I don't think that findom is their sole source of income either most of the time.

There ARE some pro/fin dommes around that might explain it better.

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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 6:55:04 AM   
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quote:

Which got me thinking if a Dominate male or female or transgendered dominate allowed their entire finances to be at the mercy of a complete stranger wouldn't they be putting themselves at that person's mercy?


Ya know-isn't that the whole point of domination, or at least the B/D part of it, in the first place-to be helpless at someone else's mercy?
I've even heard rumors that some folks, girls, guys and in-betweeen's alike, believe it or not, enjoy said feeling...


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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 6:57:37 AM   
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Your right,its just a person asking a question,lol.Just read so much about fin domination on here,most of the questions usually sound the same.Like its said though,theres no such thing as a dumb question.

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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 6:59:14 AM   
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quote:

Which got me thinking if a Dominate male or female or transgendered dominate allowed their entire finances to be at the mercy of a complete stranger wouldn't they be putting themselves at that person's mercy?


Ya know-isn't that the whole point of domination, or at least the B/D part of it, in the first place-to be helpless at someone else's mercy?
I've even heard rumors that some folks, girls, guys and in-betweeen's alike, believe it or not, enjoy said feeling...



Kana, I think he means that when a finslave is paying someone's rent, the role then gets reversed and the slave is in charge unless the findomme wants to find herself out on the street because she pissed off the guy who pays her rent. The Domme has then ceded control to her slave because he now controls the pursestrings as he has the ability to stop paying her at any time.

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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 7:00:33 AM   
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I don't believe I've ever heard of a findomme who was entirely supported by one person. Usually it's just Amazon wish list stuff. And the dommes usually have a day job if being a pro domme isn't their day job.

OT though I'm curious as to why a person who lists himself as dominant would be on a lot of domme sites, unless it's just to perv the pictures.


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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 7:02:39 AM   
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.. if a Dominate male or female or transgendered dominate, etc. etc..


*sigh*
For the thousand and forty-first time (at least): "dominate" is a verb, it's something a person does, whereas "dominant" is a noun, it's something a person is.


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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 7:09:23 AM   
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Well I regard any financial transactions between master and slave (D/s just doesn't strike me as being that flush with 'johns' or 'janes' if you get my drift) as being of a confirmed mutual best interest.

I know of situations where a master will invest on behalf (transparently) of the slave and even go so far as to purchase a life insurance policy with the slave as a or one of the beneficiaries. This instructs in life's lessons and responsibilities.

For these benefits, it is not tribute but a learning experience and a real partnership... saving and investing for the future.

Personally I believe a master is completely 100% responsible for ALL current bills and expenses or...he is not a master. A slave is not a piece of income property.

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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 7:14:05 AM   
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Contradictions are within the fabric of fabricated culture.
I made the comment once that masters sometimes work harder then their slaves, if you count up all the work they do to 'hurt' and 'train' them. So who's working for who. Didn't go down well with the so called über doms.
In this case its a bit the same. With this difference. Financial doms aren't sub to the sub but to their own never ending greed.


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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 7:14:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: SorceressJ


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheKingofHell
.. if a Dominate male or female or transgendered dominate, etc. etc..


*sigh*
For the thousand and forty-first time (at least): "dominate" is a verb, it's something a person does, whereas "dominant" is a noun, it's something a person is.


Actually...dominant is an adjective.

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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 7:14:54 AM   
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quote:

Financial doms aren't sub to the sub but to their own never ending greed.


Nice

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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 7:26:33 AM   
Kana


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quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: SorceressJ


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheKingofHell
.. if a Dominate male or female or transgendered dominate, etc. etc..


*sigh*
For the thousand and forty-first time (at least): "dominate" is a verb, it's something a person does, whereas "dominant" is a noun, it's something a person is.


Actually...dominant is an adjective.


Oh nonono,
You miss one of the finer, and least understood, definitions of the word:-)

A Dominate is one of those worthy rare few who have transcended, who have superseded Dom-dom and actualized the word until they have become the ideal and their very life and essence has become dominant by virtue of their simply being.

They live their life in an eternal haze of Dominate, woman falling madly in supplication to their knees at His passing, leaving quivering legs, moist tacos and languid eyes in his wake.

It's all very Zenesque.


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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 7:36:05 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kana

quote:

ORIGINAL: MrRodgers


quote:

ORIGINAL: SorceressJ


quote:

ORIGINAL: TheKingofHell
.. if a Dominate male or female or transgendered dominate, etc. etc..


*sigh*
For the thousand and forty-first time (at least): "dominate" is a verb, it's something a person does, whereas "dominant" is a noun, it's something a person is.


Actually...dominant is an adjective.


Oh nonono,
You miss one of the finer, and least understood, definitions of the word:-)

A Dominate is one of those worthy rare few who have transcended, who have superseded Dom-dom and actualized the word until they have become the ideal and their very life and essence has become dominant by virtue of their simply being.

They live their life in an eternal haze of Dominate, woman falling madly in supplication to their knees at His passing, leaving quivering legs, moist tacos and languid eyes in his wake.

It's all very Zenesque.


...and I bet just the perfect philologist too. Boy ya learn something everyday.

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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 8:11:54 AM   
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I don't believe I've ever heard of a findomme who was entirely supported by one person. Usually it's just Amazon wish list stuff. And the dommes usually have a day job if being a pro domme isn't their day job.

OT though I'm curious as to why a person who lists himself as dominant would be on a lot of domme sites, unless it's just to perv the pictures.


I know a friend going through this the irony all he wants is an apology from her granted he wants her on her knees when she does it (not gonna lie she really is getting her dues on this one I kept warning her not to bite the hand that fed her but once again her arrogance got the best of her) he also wants her to start using the word please(I nearly died laughing when she told me that). Anyway after learning of her plight I started doing some research on financial domination and discovered a few Pro's not just her seem to like having subs pay for their bills, rent, grocies you name it.

That being said I think it will be good for her to go through this she never apolgizes even when she needs to. That's how she's always been always blaming everybody but herself.

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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 8:21:52 AM   
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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 9:11:10 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TheKingofHell

That being said I think it will be good for her to go through this she never apolgizes even when she needs to. That's how she's always been always blaming everybody but herself.


That isn't dominant. That is selfish, childish, and arrogant. They aren't really synonymous.

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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 9:16:53 AM   
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I would like to be a wealthy housewife. Sort of. Several of my clients are former wealthy housewives who were tossed aside by their husbands for Newer Models after decades of marriage. Is there a moral to this story? That we shouldnt depend on others for anything ever?

If the woman in question was able to get one yahoo to pay for her life and give nothing in return, she must have whatever it takes to rope in another such person.

Findom is WORK, like all professional domination. It's not the tarts on the other side wanting stuff from their amazon wishlists. The men who are into it, KNOW what they want, and what they want from their fetish, and they PURSUE it.



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RE: Something I've never understood about financial Dom... - 1/13/2012 10:40:48 AM   
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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I would like to be a wealthy housewife. Sort of. Several of my clients are former wealthy housewives who were tossed aside by their husbands for Newer Models after decades of marriage. Is there a moral to this story? That we shouldnt depend on others for anything ever?

If the woman in question was able to get one yahoo to pay for her life and give nothing in return, she must have whatever it takes to rope in another such person.

Findom is WORK, like all professional domination. It's not the tarts on the other side wanting stuff from their amazon wishlists. The men who are into it, KNOW what they want, and what they want from their fetish, and they PURSUE it.



If that's how you want to interperate it. I'm just explaining how I ended up starting this thread. Also she's not the easiest person to get along with(which is why she only has only a few clients) and before you say I am probably exaggerating I have 21 years of experience as my evidence she is very self centered not narcississtic self centered but refussing to own up to her actions everything has to be done perfect self centered.

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