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ResidentSadist -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 11:30:58 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Dscouple7383
.......This may come as a shock to everyone, but [sm=hewah.gif] we both have jobs! [sm=hewah.gif] we raise THREE children! ..........

I should've known, just poor working class breeders.  We shouldn't expect too much from them. 

[:D]




ResidentSadist -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 11:33:06 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Ninebelowzero
What purpose does a peacock serve apart from being a brightly coloured noisy fucker?

They make less noise if you gag them first. 




BitaTruble -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 11:33:40 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Dscouple7383



What is the percentage of people (on this site in particular) are into bdsm out of necessity?


100%

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What I mean by that, is I wonder how many people on here have discovered that the ONLY way to be with someone is through d/s?


Oh, well then if they are past the 'frenzy' stage in their fascination with an alternative lifestyle (say 5+ years or so) then 100%. Before that, it's a crap shoot.

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We have started to reach out into our local community here, and even communities that are a drive for us to get to. And we are shocked at what we are finding. Most women we have come across look the same. Nearly ALL of them are moderately to severely overweight, and honestly have looked like they have stopped caring. Hair that isn't styled or attempted to be styled....no makeup....and just looked like they rolled out of bed.


Eek. Dude, stay away from war zones. You should see what those bitches look like on an average day.

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The men are no better, believe me. I've never seen so many men who don't take care of themselves, and don't do ANYTHING to make themselves presentable. Yet, they call themselves doms.


Sorry to hear about that and I hope you find the dom of your dreams one day.

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So, I know it sounds mean, but is bdsm (and especially in the community) mostly for people who CAN'T find someone on their own, and they use the d/s construct just to get attention that they couldn't almost PAY for in the vanilla world?


I don't know how long you've been involved in relationships or how good you are at them but BDSM isn't a ticket to finding someone. You still have to do that 'on your own'. As for 'paying' out in the vanilla world, hon, there is a price for everything. Even the beautiful have to pay.. they just trade a different commodity for services rendered. Your bank balance (to use analogy) is the limited time you have on this ball of dirt before you start eating worms. How you choose to spend your account balance is up to you. Some choose to spend it at the gym, others choose to spend it at the library. Either way, it's costing you some of that precious balance. What sucks, of course, is that you don't know, exactly, what your account balance is so you have to take care and only spend on the things which are most important to you.

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I know that looks aren't everything, and I am no super model myself.


Agreed.

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Hell, I could even stand to lose a few pounds as well. BUT, I at least put forth an EFFORT to make myself look as desirable as possible. When I'm looking for a sub/slave, I am FIRST going to be drawn to their appearance. Is that shallow? I don't care. It's NATURE!!


No, it's preference. If it was nature, it would not be a choice, it would just be. You make a choice.

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I'm sick of people saying that looks don't matter. Appearances don't matter. That's horsecrap!!


Why does that make you sick? That just seems like such an odd statement to me.

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You don't go to a job interview looking like cat puke, so what gives?


Well, I don't ever think I look like cat puke but certainly I wouldn't go to a job interview without trying to put my best foot forward. This isn't about work though, it's about play. A munch is not a job interview, it's a social activity and that's horse of a different color. (That is NOT a beastiality reference so get yer mind out of the street and back in the gutter where it belongs.)

Cat puke play (Felinese Roman Showeresques) is a small but growing subsection of BDSM. (Pft.. and people say I have no sense of humor!)

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So, I'm FIGHTING having the feeling that bdsm and the lifestyle are MOSTLY relegated to really old, really fat, and really unattractive people who couldn't get their dog to play with them otherwise.


You are attributing too much thought and intellect to dogs. They'll play with anyone.. probably even you.

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Am I the only one frustrated out there?


No, the world is filled with frustrated people.

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There.

I feel lots better now.

:)

Derek

Really? You feel lots better because you came onto the web and vented out your preferences to a bunch of complete strangers who happen to share a single interest?

I suppose that's one way to deal with frustration. There are other options like hitting the gym, have a lollipop, reading a good book, taking a warm bath but to each their own.

Seems kind of weird and, personally, if I did that, I would probably not feel better. In fact, in so doing, I would probably feel worse.

Consider this, if you will: Many of the people who become involved with BDSM are pleasure seekers, hedonists and look to those things which feed their senses and sensibilities in order to maximize that pleasure. Eating wonderful foods is fun! It is an enjoyment and brings delight to your taste buds giving you a satisfaction like few other things can. There is a price for that and it is one that many are willing to pay for the hedonistic delight it brings them.

Exercise.. not so much fun. There is not so much pleasure in doing crunches till your stomach hurts, running until your knees give out or lifting weights until you are so sweaty you might actually drop the bar.

Eating. Fun.

Exercise. Not fun.

Hedonists seek fun. (Sometimes in the most painful of ways.)

There is a price for fun.. sometimes that price is being fat, sometimes that price loses you a job or a family.

Each of us determines how much what we want is worth and then we pay the price or not.

I have a comment for the wife since she has, now, posted to this thread.

I 'get' that when you are sitting around the house you don't worry so much about dressing up and you said something about posting and sitting there in your sweats.

I have a question for you. Why do you get yourself all dolled up for strangers but for your man you sit around in sweats?

That seems rather backwards to me. Why do strangers get a portion of your bank balance of limited time in getting ready, showering, make-up and so on, but your husband doesn't? Don't you want to impress him more than anyone else?

I'm just the nosy sort and, of course, there is no obligation to answer my question at all.









ResidentSadist -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 11:47:01 AM)

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ORIGINAL: sincelo
So what you are saying is that you have gone out a few times and have not met someone that has floated your boat? Did you honestly expect to walk into a "sub R us" where you could pick and chose?

Finding partners that you mesh with is not easy ....

I truly beg to differ. 

I will not bore you with details, but I feel you have never been to Florida.  I went to Orlando to find a slave.  We held a special weekend party to interview single slaves... it only took 3 nights to find one.  She was smart, a professional copy writer, motivational speaker that toured Russia and she was also a gorgeous girlie magazine model. 

Many years later, one of my slaves got pissed and ran off in an emotional state.  The word got out she had left, friends took me up to Tampa and two days later, I found another great girl.  On the 3rd day, the first slave came back to find she had a new sister. 

Good people are easy to pair up with.  In Florida, the old "fish in the sea" adage is more applicable than most areas.  It's more like looking for a partner in fish breeding pond...  it's not finding eligible partners that is hard,  it's trying to pick out which one of the flock is best suited.




tazzygirl -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:01:39 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
I just cant get into self-centered men who are only into this for the photo look.

You don't like the S&M (stand & model) crowd? 
[:)]



I prefer a man who gets his kicks out of me.. not his own picture. [;)]




Ninebelowzero -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:03:59 PM)

I'm with Tazzy all the way:-)




ResidentSadist -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:09:00 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
I just cant get into self-centered men who are only into this for the photo look.

You don't like the S&M (stand & model) crowd? 
[:)]



I prefer a man who gets his kicks out of me.. not his own picture. [;)]

Did you say you wanted a man to kick you?   Lemme get off my old, unkempt, sloppy fat ass and find my glasses, brb. 





ConnossuerofPain -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:19:55 PM)

The more you read profiles, the more you see the trend of this. the very young who are looking to escape their parents rule. A place that they can live to pursue their schooling, social life,etc..They put slave in their profile,but yet they have a list of demands that go along with that WORD.




stellauk -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:31:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dscouple7383

I think the people who agree with me just don't like to be called fascists for disagreeing with them



Nobody's calling you or your friends fascists because we disagree with them.

We are calling you fascists because you are holding fascist views and making fascist statements.

This is the thing about freedom of speech, it carries responsibility. If you don't enjoy being called a fascist then quit making fascist statements or modify your statements so that they're not fascist.

Therefore I feel the discomfort you and your friends are feeling isn't from the disagreement, but more from the fact that some are holding the mirror up and showing you your reflection.

But if you want to deflect the responsibility for your opinions and words onto others then fine.






Dscouple7383 -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:37:22 PM)

To all the people who have messaged us, good or bad, thanks for your input. Also, would like to thank all of the thoughtful discussion that has been responded to on this post.

Granted, my original post was probably more mean spirited than I originally had desired, I still was more upset with the mentality of the people whom I have come into contact around this lifestyle here. And that mentality is one of complete give up.
It's depressing. And I'm being honest about it, when not too many people will.

Sure, I know there are some medical conditions that cause this or that, and I'm NOT TALKING about that. What I'm talking about is the MENTALITY of who I've been around in the community. And instead of anyone saying to get up and put forth an effort, all anyone does is talk about accepting this or that, and skirting PERSONAL ACCOUNTABILITY.

So, to conclude......

I don't hate obese people, and I am a firm believer of what's in someone's heart is what REALLY matters and is for the long haul. Bodies age, deteriorate, and we all get old. I understand the superficiality of the earlier post. I really do. But when it gets to a point where you look around, and all you see are people who just flat out don't take care of themselves.....it's hard to relate to that mentality.

We are not looking to join a community to find other people to own or play with (and I realize that most people don't care anyway!).
We actually already have a male sub and we are VERY happy with him. I was just making a (wrong side of the bed morning) post asking if this type of mentality is pervasive throughout the community.....OR...have I just had some really bad "community" experiences?

So, yes, I do apologize for the mean spirited tone of my op. But....I will stand by the fact that more people should give a damn about the way they look and present. We all aren't thin, and we all aren't perfect. But that doesn't mean we should all just give up. And it damn sure doesn't mean that we need to make excuses for everyone, when just a TINY bit of effort would go a LONG way. If that upsets anyone, then I am truly sorry.

Take care and God bless.

Derek




BootyBoy -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:40:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dscouple7383

Look.....I have made the observation that from what I've seen, most people in our community are overweight and older. That doesn't upset me. The people who don't TRY to make themselves presentable DO upset me.



As I was saying before, there are different groupings of people within the D/s. community. Some people have very formal kink parties, others don't even own the kind or clothes to attend such parties. Defining what constitutes TRYING or not depends on which group, along the spectrum, you're engaging with. You might find an entirely different scene down in Miami. It's no good walking into someone else's environment and making judgements about it. Their environment may be fine for them and their friends. If you are a guest there, take it in for what it's worth, and move on if it doesn't fit you. Do not assume that they are into BDSM because they couldn't get any action somewhere else.

The offense is not in HOW it was said. The offense was in WHAT Dereck said.
The supposition that only those who meet one's own standards are acceptable is the epitome of arrogance.

Well, that and calling yours ever "VERY attractive."




ResidentSadist -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:41:01 PM)

Couldn't find my glasses... I found my pajamas and some old torn jeans, think I'll get dressed and go to BDSM club.  Maybe I kin' find me a fat chick at the BDSM club... they like to give head ya' know… at least that’s what I hear.  I never actually had sex with a BDSM type person, but I reads up on it often.  I read so much I’m pret-near an expert by now I guess.  Hell, I know so much now, I was thinking up my introductory post for that there BDSM forum called CollarMe.  I was gonna’ talk about fat people and good grooming… but I was gonna be politically correct and call’em ‘chubby subbies’ like the experts at Castle Realm did.  

I’d love to get me one of dem' big fat dick suckers with a big phat ass.  They are all as desperate as I am and make an easy mark for a guy like me who is forced into the BDSM lifestyle just so I can get a piece now and then.  Ya’ know. It ain’t easy getting tail when you’re a superficial dumbass noob.  I gots to takes what I can.   

Yuppers, I’m gonna’ be in tall cotton when I hit the club wearing my jammies & jeans and getting’ head from a chubby subby… livin’ the BDSM dream I am, making friends and influencing people!




Ninebelowzero -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:41:37 PM)

Good luck Derek & Danielle. I sincerely hope you find that this little episode doesn't come back to haunt you. Well too badly :-)




tazzygirl -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:43:05 PM)


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl
I just cant get into self-centered men who are only into this for the photo look.

You don't like the S&M (stand & model) crowd? 
[:)]



I prefer a man who gets his kicks out of me.. not his own picture. [;)]

Did you say you wanted a man to kick you?   Lemme get off my old, unkempt, sloppy fat ass and find my glasses, brb. 




Oh you sexy, fat, lazy, unkept, huge hunk of a man, you do know how to turn a fat, old, cross eyed, sloppy and illiterate slut on!

[sm=hearts.gif]

My thighs are all a quiver.. and not just because I stopped moving and they decided to keep going on their own, either. [;)]




tazzygirl -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:46:26 PM)

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Yuppers, I’m gonna’ be in tall cotton when I hit the club wearing my jammies & jeans and getting’ head from a chubby subby… livin’ the BDSM dream I am, making friends and influencing people!


I gotta ask.. and Im prolly gonna get kicked for this...

Does your cock truly care who is down there sucking away when you close your eyes and grip her hair? (provided said hair isnt greasy and snarled?)




Fornica -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:48:28 PM)

omg this cracked me up..lmfao
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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl



My thighs are all a quiver.. and not just because I stopped moving and they decided to keep going on their own, either. [;)]





poise -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:50:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl


Does your cock truly care who is down there sucking away when you close your eyes and grip her hair?


There are two men on opposite ends of the world.
One is walking a tightrope between 2 skyscrapers.
The other is being orally stimulated by an 89 year old woman.
Both are thinking the very same thing.
Any idea what that is?

























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Whatever you do, don't look down!




tazzygirl -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:51:46 PM)

rofl




stellauk -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:54:52 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Dscouple7383

So, yes, I do apologize for the mean spirited tone of my op. But....I will stand by the fact that more people should give a damn about the way they look and present. We all aren't thin, and we all aren't perfect. But that doesn't mean we should all just give up. And it damn sure doesn't mean that we need to make excuses for everyone, when just a TINY bit of effort would go a LONG way. If that upsets anyone, then I am truly sorry.

Take care and God bless.

Derek



I applaud you both for coming back and posting that. That takes some character.

It's always possible to find compromise on a message board even if your opinion differs.

Differing viewpoints are what makes this place so good.

Be well.




kalikshama -> RE: BDSM out of necessity? (1/15/2012 12:57:30 PM)

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have I just had some really bad "community" experiences?


Since ResidentSadist is also in Center Florida and has no problem meeting hot women, I'm attributing to you the fact that you attract women who can't be arsed to brush their hair.




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